The all new rat smacketers thread, this way for a 2012 BFP we are BROOKING NO ARGUMENT

I'm scared i'm being too hopeful and i'm going to come back to earth with a big bang I'm brooking no argument its real!

Oooh, this sounds promising Cakes symptom spotting is always good

Hope your interview goes well bean. The allotment and chickens sounds really good.
Hi to everyone else.

At the risk of TMI I had a very odd pain in my left side on and off yesterday and then last night after SFF had pink blood later when I wiped. Spotting and period never starts with anything except brown and I don't get period pains until after i've started properly. This morning nothing. I think i'm about 12/13dpo today. Am I symptom spotting?

I'm glad you all agree with the chickens! Pop it is fenced off, with lots of locks too, so fingers crossed it should be ok! I'm pleased you are not sick.

Far I'm so pleased you and DH are turning a corner. It always feels so much better when you can joke about things.

Sweetie I know what you mean about the two lines

Hi little I'm glad to hear you're feeling a little bit better.

Alcohol reduces your chances by 50% Bean I am glad DH has decided to abstain as well as yours ? we just need to think of stuff to do in the evening that doesn't involve the pub Will it take 3 months to make a difference, do you think?
Good luck at t'interview :)

Sorry to hear you're on CD1 olives :( I think the NK testing sounds very proactive though, and we all know that HSGs are magic :o

maybe yay for chickens! Is your allotment fenced off from the general public? I have heard chickens can ?go missing? ?....

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for your naughty weekend, far !

I seem to have escaped DH's lurgy. But my temps are still abnormally high, and so FF has moved my ovulation day forward by 1 day which is not good news, SWI-wise But I am not expecting much of this cycle anyway and just need to remind myself that we've made some really positive life-changes this month and next month will be betterer.

I was quite excited Far when i got a faint dual line on the OPK stick as I have never had a positive line on a stick before. if only it had been the other sort of stick

Olives sorry to hear about CD1, suppose it will be CD2 now. Those tests are expensive but it is the reassurance it can give you. And fx for the second HSG for the flush through. It is all sounding positive.

Bean good luck with the postponed interview

Maybe all the goodies to be grown on the allotment sound lovely, all that digging will get you very fit and a very healthy diet to boot. I would say chickens are a good trade off for a shed.

Far it is so positive that communication channels remain open for you, and it may be outside factors which are adding to your DH pressure.

Thanks all for the tips on the OPKs, I thought it was just me and my weak hormones not getting on with the sticks, bring on the

Morning all. Green so sorry it's CD1. If the blood test/consultation will help you along in any way, then I am sure it is worth it. Fingers crossed for that second HSG too (not that you will need it )

Bean I hope the insecurity passes soon, I am sure that your DP will thank you for all of this in the long run. I think another thing is with the males of the species, is that they can never admit that you were right Good luck fr that interview

Sweetie hurrah for the german burgers. I sometimes get some stabby pains too. My temperature is doing funny things. My BBT the last few days that I have been ill has been lower than ususal, and then when I get up, my temp rockets. Illness is strange.

Little my lovely, so nice to see you. Take all the time you need, and when you are strong enough, we will all be brooking for a superglue-strength bean

Stasi I hope you are feeling much better this morning.

I fear I may have a touch of flu. I ache from head to toe I can't even think about work.

I am excited about the allotment. I can't get over how big it is! We haven't properly decided what we are going to grown, but I know I want carrots, broad beans, peas, tomatoes, onions, garlic, peppers, chillies, herbs, squash, salad leaves. The list goes on and on!! Also we are allowed to have a chicken coop on it too. I want some. If DH is getting a shed, I want chickens. This is fair, no?

Green - commiseration btw re' cd1. And yes 15 children is just wrong.

HI Green - good luck with the consultation. So annoying that it's so pricey but this may really help you turn a corner.

Sweetie - I have read in several places that alcohol can affect TTC chances by up to 50%. But then the husband of my friend who has 4 children drinks like a fish - claims he never has hangovers so his body may be v good at detoxing. I also met a mum of 2 los this week who had 3 miscarriages before she gave up alcohol entirely. She really wasn't expecting ds2 - he was a quick surprise after ds1 and healthy lifestyle. She's 40 too. Big ask though - and I know feel a bit insecure in my relationship after some of the ruction it's caused. But DP looks better already; he looked so tired before.

Stasi - any better? And Maybe?

TTFN. I am off for the postponed interview.

P.S Watching 15 Kids & Counting - WTF! Some people are too fertile!

Evening ladies.

Hello Bartlet lovely to meet you. I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I look forward to getting to know you when you feel ready to start TTC again. Nice to see you too Little, glad you are doing ok at the moment - just take it easy it's early days still.

Youch for UTI Stasi, they're nasty, hope antibiotics kick in very quickly.

Boo to you still feeling poorly too maybe but yay for allotment I have chickens like Pop so no chance of growing much in our garden without the girls eating it all! They ruin the grass too, much to DHs annoyance! Last year he built them a huge coop so they didn't have to be free ranging round the garden every day making a mess. They do lay lovely eggs though What are you planning on growing?

Pop hope you have escaped the lurgy!

Bean at crap GP. Hope Monday's appt is helpful and that work projects keep you occupied.

Sweetie I suffer with Mittelschmerz (sp?) too, it's usually worse than my period pains. It is a useful indicator for the old SWI though. I usually find I get a on the OPK on my 3rd day of pains Hope you have success with the ones, I couldn't get on with the internet cheapies, I never knew what was a true positive either.

Waves to everyone else, hope you are all ok.

In my news its CD1 here and I am predictably miserable However I have decided to be pro-active and have emailed the Miscarriage Clinic on Harley Street to sort out testing for NK cells. They have quoted around £650 for consultation and test seems a lot for one blood test but there you are - I am desperate for answers! So I am just waiting for them to ring me back with an appointment, I do at least feel that this might move things forward a bit. Also have my NHS appt next Friday and consultant did mention he might book a second HSG for me to try and give me another "blow out" of my remaining tube! We'll see.

TTFN.

Bean wowzer alcohol reduces TTC chances by 50% ? I really need to have a serious word with DH. I hope you write a strongly worded complaint to your GP surgery, it is very poor to mix up patients and give out incorrect results especially something so important. Brooking no argument.

Poor Pop hope you are ok and DH doesn?t share his germs with you, that is last thing you need.

Maybe what is infamous triphasic chart thingamabob? loving the sound of an allotment too ? sounds like ironic BFP coming your way. You poor love still being under the weather {big hugs} enjoy your hot chocolate and marsh mellows

Waves to Bartlett so sorry to hear about your experience, hope things are on the up in 2012 same goes for you Little

Poor Stasi you are going through the mill and I would definitely call UTI an emergency. Hope you are feeling better now the antibiotics kick in.

I think I may have under estimated the temping as they all look a bit closer together (all 97.2Xs) apart from the random Saturday one ? I will put that down to Friday evening beers.

Today I have been having left side stabbing pains, I think I could be gearing up for OV (CD10 now usually OV CD12-14) do you call them MetterSchmittelzBurgers can you tell I haven?t made much progress with Zita West?? or something??? But I haven't had a +ve OPK yet, expect it tomorrow. Have purchased some OPK as the sticks don't get a very strong line for me, even the test line is very faint. These are the sensitive strtength too, think it is due to my age and assume I must have a low LH surge.

Hi everyone

Though we're not officially ttc again yet, I am still lurking to keep in the loop with you lot.

It's been 1 wk today since the mc and I'm feeling pretty ok. Physically much better, just a bit knackered. Emotionally, well, i've been ok for the last few days, but I know there will be ups and downs.

Sorry to read that some of you are having such a rough time. Before having my dd I really thought it was as simple as deciding to ttc then waiting for it to happen. Then once you got pregnant, it was all just happy waiting for a baby. What did I know!

bartlett It's lovely to hear from you again too. I hope we'll both be back on the antenatal thread again soon x

Take it easy Stasi sounds nasty.

Ooh Maybe allotments are v romantic and sheeshy. Actually we fell pg a couple of months into starting on our allotment so there's the scientific evidence for you. Tell all about your plans. Great larks.

Chickens pop! You are so kewl.

Knackered after all this drama. Need to out it away now. Have a couple of interesting work projects coming up thank goodness.

TTFN.

Oooo maybe that's exciting! I am not very green-fingered, sadly, and the chickens tend to dig up anything I plant What are you going to plant?

congrats maybe now you will definitely have an ironic bfp and be too fat to tend your allotment.

Feet up stasi, perhaps with some hot cranberry tea type stuff.

Oh Stasi you poor thing. UTIs are so nasty, and I agree with Pop, they are an emergence, as they can lead to very nasty kidney infections

I have just gotten back from viewing our allotment! I am now the proud owner of one! DH didn't want me to go out, and I now feel awful and so so cold, but I have a hot chocolate on the bubble, and we are going to plan what we are going to plant! [sad middle-aged-before-my-time emoticon]

Oh gawd stasi I hate UTIs, they're agonising - it was totally an emergency in my book :o
Hope it clears up soon xx

Afternoon everyone. I am very, very tired today, so am going to write a short post from memory, rather than one of my epic posts :)

News from me first - not much, apart from a very nasty UTI. I was fine yesterday afternoon, then when I got home from work started peeing very blood stained wee, with a few clots. A night of intense pain and feeling like I needed a wee (but couldn't go), and an emergency doctors appointment this morning for some antibiotics. It wasn't really an emergency, but I wanted it sorted!

Far glad you had a good weekend away and managed to talk to your DH. It's a shame he's still so stressed about things, but I think the compromise seems like a good one. If a bit frustrating for you. I hope it works out for you though, there shouldn't be any reason at all that you can't get pg from weekend SFF and one mid week SFF.

Bartlett I was very sorry to hear your news, it's good to hear from you. We'll all be here ready and waiting as soon as you decide to come back and join us. I've saved you a spot on the sofa by the fire.

Bean I can't believe that GP. I hope you get things sorted soon and some proper answers. The end of the summer is a long time away, and things can change.

Got to go now as I have a counselling appointment. Catch up more later.

Hi bartlet. I don't think we 'met' before. I hope you're ok. You sound very stoical, at what must be such a difficult time. I'm another PhDer - had my viva in Nov, so am (subject to amendments) now Dr Whim. Well done you for getting it all done.

Good to see you sounding a bit more positive bean. Your ability to put your GP behind you, as it were, and move on should be an inspiration to all us impatient rat smackers.

Hi all

Bartlet - we are all so gutted for you and what a sad time for you and all your family. I hope you get time for grief and that a BFP is not too far away for you. Poor little girl to have such a short life.

Maybe - what a rotter. Hottie and drugs for you.

Thanks in general for letting me rant everyone. Cakes - sounds equally as bad at your practice. This GP is basically a twat. But I've leave it behind and move on to the new one who is supposed to be much more sympathetic.

We were both phoned individually by a neutral GP with both of our test results but no explanation y'day. Of course DP didn't make a note or anything. But it doesn't matter - we'll get clarification on Monday. I just need GP to talk us through how to optimise our chances (thus making it clear to DP that the booze factor is relevant and not just me obsessing).

Whim - croissant queen - yes he's a bit worried about me but not enough up until now to try harder himself. He said we were missing out on things because of TTC but when I asked him to explain he couldn't think of any examples. I don't like me much at the moment either, but I can't shake the feeling there must be something in the way of conceiving after DS was so quick 2.8 years ago. I haven't had a chemical - nothing - which makes me think that sperm isn't meeting egg... And all my tests show ov and a good number of eggs etc. So wtf is going on?!

I know - there's no answers for anyone. And it's a scary path ahead for all of us.

April's HSG will help. Then a few more months of hopefully no booze and acupuncture and then I do essentially agree with DP, we just put aside our efforts/hopes and move on. He is willing to consider fostering/adoption so that's there to remind me that there are ways and means.

Sweetie - you're a winner.

Smegs - how you doing? And everyone I've missed - sorry, but brooking for the BFP tsunami that's coming our way!

x