The all new rat smacketers thread, this way for a 2012 BFP we are BROOKING NO ARGUMENT

Morning Maybe
The temp was 97.53 this morning, has been 97.2x all week so not sure if that is considered enough of a rise. I have woken up with a cold too so that may account for the rise too. Did SWI last night just in case

How you feeling today? You walking the pup or visiting the alotment? Hope you have a lovely day.

Ignore the above Sweetie I meant Stasi

I meant to say to Sweetie, have you seen a temp rise yet?

Morning all!

We have been a bit quiet in here of late

Bean I hope you had a lovely meal and that it was just what you and DP needed. You review books! What a lovely thing to do!

Sweetie glad the smear went ok, good news about the mucous

Froot CD50? you poor thing. This may just be an annvulatory cycle though, apparently it is completely normal for women to have 2 a year. Remind me, have you just come off of the pill? I know what you mean though, if you weren't TTC, you wouldn't think anything of it

Pop, what is DH like!! My DH's downfall is when he is working the nightshift

Far that is bloody amazing news about the old progesterone! Just think, you now know how lovely your eggs are, so the next one that pops will be the one!

Hello all
Stasi hate delays in Drs, it always makes me very uncomfortable especially when waiting for something such as smear or similar.

Pop hope the hot chocolate cheered you up. When I work from home I wear a sleeping bag type thing with arms, it is snuggly warm but very unattractive. It was only £15 from CostCo ? bargain

Far that is a great progesterone result. Hope this mean only good things.

Froot book Drs appointment and ironic witch AF will show up. It is so frustrating when all you want to do is get going. I had the same when I first came off the pill.

Bean hope you have a lovely meal out with DP and it sets your weekend off to a great start

Not SWI last night but I am not sure what is going on and would really like a temping guru to offer me some advice. Currently CD13 (usually get EWCM and +ve OPK CD12ish) no temp rise this morning. I am not a good sleeper so for the last 2 days I have woken at 5.30 and taken my temp then. Then waited snoozed for another hour before getting up, although I did take my temp then just in case. The post snooze temps were a bit higher but I have used the first temps in FF ? is this correct? I still haven?t had a OPK so I am a bit worried I might not be ovulating or I have weak hormones

Maybe I saw your similar post, I am with you that my body is also playing tricks.

Hope everyone has lovely weekends planned

Frootloopz - poor you. For once in your life you're laying food on the table with a glass of wine for AF and she's aint bovvered. Hope the doc enlightens.

Stasi - scrape over? Hope not too painful.

Far - fx you can both relax together and enjoy swi. Brooking for good results.

Pop - that naughty DH: time to get the hand-job equivalent of that yukky tasting stuff for nail biters? Not sure what it would be mind you?! Or apply a fine dust that glows blue under fluorescent light - as was used at school to deter petty thieving?!

Mummy's blanky. CUTTEeee. Your DS sounds so sweet Olives. Sorry work so hard at mo. And rubbish text c0ck-up.

Whim - we are deffo grown-ups. And I do deffo imagine your house as a v happy place to grow up. Would love for my DS to have at least one sibling and yours have at least 2 so that's tops.

Looking forward to Imps news. And do wonder about Solars too Pops - sounds like they made a very tough decision but I really hope that means they are more relaxed and less stressed by hideous TTC.

Short anecdote of the day - chatted to a lady who said it was like starting again with her LO. I being v nosey found out that she had an 8yo and a 19mo and she is 45! They had wanted two close together but this is what they ended up with. There's no accounting for this business of getting babies.

No idea when Trust kicks off. New book to edit from Monday so have to really apply myself! Written by an 80 yr old woman - v inspiring. Can't say more.

Have a fantastic w'e all. Me and DP are off for dins tonight; will do us good as has been a fairly tough week.

xxxx

Afternoon all. I did get out of the waiting room finally, and the nurse was very apologetic. Only 35 minutes late on my appointment, but the old man before me had many and varied problems. I can never really get angry with people who are just doing their job. I was just imagining her in there with her lunch while I was waiting :)

The smear was ok, she used a small speculum, but had to change to a larger one. So, more like 2 tests really. Was very uncomfortable, but not painful really. She did ask if I'm ovulating just now, as it was 'very mucus-y' . Not really something you talk about, but she knows I am ttc.

Far I've got my fingers crossed for you having an immaculate conception :)

Froot I hope your doctor has some answers for you. I too would have been jealous of a long gap between AF before ttc. I am now very glad mine is always predictable.

Oh far what a bummer!! But at least you know you have nothing to worry about on the progesterone front - I'm fairly confident it's normal to vary every month (at least, I'm pretty sure it does with me as some months my boobs hurt more than others).

Lets just say I'm 99% sure DH had been up to his old tricks again when we dtd before I popped but he has hand-on-heart promised to make an effort next month (and now that I feel I can tell him when I ov without sounding like an obsessed loon it will be easier). He hasn't any alcohol in almost a week, which is unheard of when he's off work on holiday, so I'm confident he's committed :)

Hope the smear was bearable stasi

Mummy's blanky, that's so cute olives :)

Yes where is imps ? On that note (well not really but still) I often wonder how solars is and I hope she's ok. She left us very suddenly, and I'd hate to think she was going through a tough time :(

How annoying Stasi! I never understand why that happens!

I would have my furry throw thing over my legs but at the moment DS has stolen it as he is pretending to be tucked up in bed on the lounge floor! I'm not arguing though as it gives me 5 minutes peace even if I am a bit cold He has a "blanky" which he takes to bed and I must spend a lot of time with this particular throw over my legs as he always refers to it as Mummy's blanky! We really are stylish bunch of ladies aren't we?

sigh. I am the only person here in the waiting room, and I've still not been seen 20 minutes after my appointment time. I'm not one to complain, but I'm seriously considering it now.

Boo to the smear Stasi though at least it gets it out of the way for the next few years!

I am still in my pjs though am working myself up to take the dog out. I also don't put the heating on when it is just me, unless I am realllllly cold. Loving the blanket/skirt ides Stasi I think I may try that myself when I return from the cold outdoors

Quick post from me as I'm trying to get work done from home, and it's actually going quite well. Have to go to the docs for a smear test now though :(

Popcorn - I'm with you on the cold house! I'm wearing a fleece blanket over my legs like a wrap-around skirt. Comfy and fetching (though I'll whip it off and look sexy for DH coming home).

Ohhh hot chocolate, that's genius maybe - I'm sat here in two hoodies with a blanket on my lap like an old lady. I work from home and I'm just too mean to put the heating on when it's only me home :o

Lovely, thanks Pop

I have the same trouble with my DH. I knit him a hat, and he thinks it's too girly. It's not. And I made him the most beautiful socks with the nicest yarn, he wore them once and now can't find them. Two words pop. Ungrateful. Sods

Don't cry anymore. Get a medicinal hot chocolate on the go, and a nice slice of cake to go with it.

maybe I don't get mittenburgers, but I understand you can have pains for a few days before you actually pop. Your temp should rise the day after you ov :)

That's a really good point, whims. In a way I think it's really interesting we're having this debate at all ? 50 years ago we'd not have had a choice, really, and I'd probably have had 6 by the time I was 20 :o

When do you hear about the job, bean ?

Wow Olives - well done on being so determined and showing us what brooking's all about :) I'm really sorry you had a crap day, I hope today is better (I'm sure it will be, infact)

:o at the curry breath sweetie that's dedication!

9.08 and I've already been in tears once this morning (PMS) :(
And I'm in a huff with DH because I spent ages knitting him a hat (two hats infact, as one was too bright and I knew he wouldn't like it, so I reknit it) and now he tells me it's too tight (it's a beanie, it fits as it's meant to but he's used to sloppy machine-knit hats). I knew he was a fussy bugger before I started it, and I really just shouldn't have bothered

Morning everyone!

Olives have fun today, I half think things like that seem almost more fun when you're a grown up!

Stasi how did that headstand go hope you are in on piece this morning! I think you, and everyone else who wants to adopt/foster are amazing

Sweetie hope DH didn't smell too bad. Don't obsess too much

Whim 181 cousins Christmas must be pricey Now chuck us one of those cookies! And I agree, it is nice that we can all talk like 'normal' people to each other about things we don't always see eye-to-eye on.

Bean how are you this morning? When did you say you had your appointment with the nice doctor?

Smegs are you there? Hope things are ok with you.

Pop hope you had a better day's work yesterday.

Imps hope you are having an amazing holibob, I look forward to your return.

Those that temp, can I have some advice? I have been getting what I guess are ov pains yesterday and this morning, and the old EWCM started last night. Do you see the temp rise the day after the egg has popped? Only I am worrying that my body is just tricking me into thinking I am ovulating, though I have no temp rise to go with it

I was successful in my teach-myself-crochet afternoon. Now I need some nice yarn as I am going to make a blanket. And I must also start my second sock. And continue with my huge shawl, and make a few other odd socks.....

That would be no work not now

Morning!

Hope the SWI was fun last night Stasi and hope you managed it without inhaling too many curry/beer fumes Sweetie!

Now work for me today - yay! Have a play date at the local soft play centre later More fun though

Evening all. Had a busy couple of days with an ill cat. He's home from the vet now, but my lunch breaks and evenings have been filled with phonecalls finding out how he is and when he can come home. I'm having my first cuddle with him in a week, since last weekend he's been ill and lethargic and didn't want fusses or cuddles. I've missed it!

Anyway, got my first ever +ve OPK today, though a feint line I think it's all I'll get. Took it very late in the day after getting back. Coincides with the EWCM I've been getting.

Beedle I'm sure the wrigglers will be ready and waiting for that egg, if it pops before tomorrow.

Bean sounds like your interview went quite well really. There are worse things to come out and realise you didn't say. I hope DS gets less clingy soon, could it just be a phase he's going through?

Olives Hope you're less tired tonight

Popcorn My DH sleeps through the alarm, fanjometer beep, and generally me getting up also!

Maybe sorry you're still sick. Sounds like you've done something constructive with your time. I'd like to learn to crochet, but want to finish my knitting projects first.

cakes sorry to hear AF is considering turning up. How dare she? Perhaps lock all the doors and hide under the bed covers?

Whim I would love to have 4 kids, it's DH that wants to keep population down. However I hope we'll adpot or foster. The second episode of 15 kids shows a lot of the problems I think are likely in a family that large. No money, no space, and terrible sibling rivalry. Though the beauty queen mum also has mental health problems I think... I agree with you on every point you've raised. However, I think the 'natural contraception' of breastfeeding is there for a reason, though not necesary any more with the developed world really.

Bed time for me now, well, SWI time. Then some headstands I think, though I doubt it makes that much difference. Hoping 5 days of abstinance will do the trick. Both DH's SA have been close to the limit on timing, so it could explain his low count at least (and the motility issues?).

Olives am brooking very hard that all goes well in your tests and GET pregnant and STAY pregnant no arguments.

Pop hope you are ok and AF on the train stay well clear

Will have to go back and fully read the discussion of 15 kids, I didn't see the programme myself.

I am officially obsessing about ovulating - fact. I have been temping and not rise as yet. I have had only negative OPK, yesterday and today in the early evening. But a very faint dual line on the cheapie stick just now. I also had a bit of EWCM this afternoon, I never get much so that might have been it. If it were up to me I would SWI tonight just in case, but DH has just come in after big fat curry night and a few beers. I will have to try to work my feminine charms without breathing in

Evening ladies.

Still shattered tonight, work was busy, busy again today! I'm not sure I can make an intelligent comment on the 15 kids thing as my brain is not functioning this evening. They only thing I will say is that I wouldn't want to be dictated to about how many children I can have but equally having 15 children seems like madness to me! And with my AF hormones raging when I watched it the other day I was just and that some people are just so bloody fertile and I'm not! I'm also not sure at what stage a large family becomes abnormally large - maybe at double figures? I just don't know!

Cakes, Whims and Pop, sorry to hear that you are all feeling like AF might be coming for a visit - I'm brooking no argument that you're wrong

Chairing the trust sounds like a very worthy cause Bean, those kind of facilities need to be fought for but make sure you don't take on too much.

to hear you're still poorly Maybe, hope the crocheting is distracting you from feeling so crappy!

Well I had a crappy day yesterday, due to some monumental phone cock up I got 2 text messages congratulating me on the birth of my baby girl - I bloody wish! They were meant for a friend of mine who has just had a little girl! I am over the moon for her but can't help a little twinge of as she has had 2 children since I've started TTC DC2! It does seem so easy for everyone else I know in RL! Anyhow, on a positive note I have an appointment on 20th Feb for NK cells tests so maybe I will soon have some answers! My goal is to have a plan in place by May this year as that will be 3 years of TTC and I feel like I'm not getting anywhere. I know that all sounds a bit and depressing but actually I think I am even more determined the longer it goes on - I'm brooking NO argument that I will get pregnant and stay pregnant this year - FACT!

TTFN

pop and bean I take both your points. I actually think the more children I have, the better I get at managing them! Like there are things that would have sent me into a flat spin with DS1, that are just water under the bridge with the others.

And I do, kind of, agree about very large families, it's just that I don't know where a very large family starts. For example, even if I do have 4 children, they will be my parents only 4 grandchildren. Whereas a friend of mine has only one child, but is one of 181 first cousins. Yes, you read that correctly: 181. I almost feel like I need to write it out in words. Her parents are ones of 9 and 13, each of whom went forth and multiplied. So which of us is the large family? A rhetorical question, but an interesting one, nonetheless.

I'm glad you haven't fallen out with me over this! I think we are a model for mumsnet of how to conduct an adult conversation, and accordingly, I have adapted a chocolate chip cookie recipe to make very grown up, but still attractively chewy, stem ginger cookies.

Bad luck on AF pop and green btw. I had a total sob over the 'random acts of kindness' thread earlier. Think I might be in the same boat.

Oh Pop - so sorry to hear that. I am so pissed off if she is on her way. Chin up and keep going. Thinking of you. xxx

Whim - not overstepping the mark at all; perhaps we were with our opinions - sorry. You're right, it's personal choice and I feel bad enough wanting 2 (esp' as DP doesn't particularly). But I also can't help how I feel about this overpopulated planet; and the problem of the cost of individual global footprints is quadrupled in developed nations, so larger families in developing nations has less of an impact. If our birthrate is going down (which I appreciate it is here and in other parts of Europe) then that's a good thing imho. I certainly don't want to sit in judgement of you as an individual - or other women - for wanting 4 (and I know two people with 4/5, both of whom are notably stay-at-home from choice so can't be accused of not spending time with their families etc). I can tell you're a fab mum and lovely person so exactly the right sort to be making lovely babies/toddlers/kids who become decent adults. 15 on the other hand is indefensible in my mind. Or a kind of mental illness. Sorry, but that's how I feel.

Your point about women's rights is hard to get around too.

And... there are children of small families who feel unloved and neglected. So it's all swings and roundabouts.

Anyway. I must go and eat some chocolate. All this moralising is making me hungry.