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Angels and Rainbows - The beauty of a rainbow does not negate the ravages of the storm. But it can provide colour and hope.

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Whatevertheweather · 13/01/2012 21:28

“Rainbow Babies” is the understanding that the beauty of a rainbow does not negate the ravages of the storm. When a rainbow appears, it doesn’t mean the storm never happened or that the family is not still dealing with its aftermath. What it means is that something beautiful and full of light has appeared in the midst of the darkness and clouds. Storm clouds may still hover but the rainbow provides a counter balance of color, energy and hope.

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AugustMoon · 13/03/2012 14:11

Too birthday wishes to Thea for tomorrow, I hope you don't get too weepy but then a good cry is sometimes what we need > Really enjoyed reading your birth story, keep us up to date on how Maia settles in with the dog, if you get time... you might remember we've got a dog / puppy, he's 10 months old now and quite big and hyper so I'm a bit worried how he'll be with a baby. We keep him in the conservatory most of the time unless he's pottering around the kitchen with me, which I feel guilty about, but he chews wires and shoes and the kids toys otherwise. And he jumps up all the time which is also a concern with my expanding bump.
wtw I've got that in my right hip :( had it with Jacob too. It's not crippling but is rather painful. Physio might be a good idea, I'm going to try aqua-natal. I did yoga for it last time but I don't really want to do that again - it helped with my back but i'm paranoid about yoga and pregnancy now!
shakey ditto what spilt says - constant feeding is par for the course and a good sign... she'll be getting enough milk for sure.
spilt that's good going :)

blizy · 13/03/2012 14:06

Shakey- we still have Zoe's ashes, we keep them in her bedroom. Although we are saving for a memorial plot in the crematorium and we are thinking of burying them there. But there is no rush.

Spilt- wow! I will defo be breast feeding the next baby (if it ever happens).

spilttheteaagain · 13/03/2012 13:50

shakey sympathies on the tiredness, its a killer. Entirely your choice on the bottles, but just wanted to chip in and say constant feeding is completely and utterly normal in a young BF baby. You almost certainly will be making enough milk. Their tummies are just tiny and BM is very easily digested so they can be hungry again very soon after a feed.

Nearly a year for you and Grace Sad It was only by Bobbie's birthday that we'd managed to order her gravestone. These things take a while. No need to part with her ashes if you don't want to. Have you considered getting a nice urn or similar to display?

too lovely to read your birthstory. Happy birthday lovey Thea xxx

I am shocked. Just went on the wii for first time since Freya was about 2 weeks old. Since then I have lost 1st 7lbs!! That has officially gasted my flabber. Sitting down with choc to repair damage. I am lighter than I have been in years by some margin. Magical (scary) breastfeeding Shock

shakeyjake · 13/03/2012 12:00

wtw sounds like sciatica, o had horrible pains on my left hip into my bum and down the leg. It wad worse when either standing up or going upstairs and putting my weight just on that leg. My midwife did say she could have referred me to physio but as I struggled along with it for 32 weeks was s bit late

too thank you for sharing your story and so glad maia is doing so well. And happy birthday thea xx

I am doing ok, just really tired as rose is a constant feeder, sometimes I think it would be better to just go to bottles as maybe I am not feeding her enough but then feel guilty for thinking that would be best.

On sat it will be a year since Grace was born and we still haven't done anything with her ashes, I am finding it really hard to decide what to do and not sure I am ready to part with them yet.

Whatevertheweather · 13/03/2012 11:05

Meant to say Happy Birthday and floaty kisses to Thea. I hope today passes as peacefully as possible Too. I will light a candle for her here this evening xxx

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Whatevertheweather · 13/03/2012 11:04

Ah Too thanks for sharing Maia's birth story. Can't believe you can still get bumped when you're sitting in the operating theatre! That must have been hard. She sounds so perfect. Hope your dog will get used to her soon. What type is it?

I seem to have done something to be my back/hip/buttock area. Keep getting shooting pains and aches from there down my leg into my knee on left hand side. Very painful couldn't sleep last night at all and am walking with a limp and struggled to get my knickers on this morning Blush Came out of nowhere yesterday early evening. Am working from home this morning but supposed to drive and see a client this afternoon but am having serious doubts whether I'll be able to use the clutch properly. Ouch!

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AngelGeorgie · 13/03/2012 09:37

Happy birthday Thea xxx
Too a section is fine isn t it? I was surprised at how easy it is. Glad all went well just keep an eye on your wound mine became infected as I hadn t been drying it thoroughly enough. Wasn t painful just a bit smelly !! Nice!!! So I self treated with a week of AB been fine since. Enjoy your " babymoon" xxxxx
Love & cuddles to your dog also. Xxx
Hi all xxx

blizy · 13/03/2012 07:35

too Thank you for sharing your precious first moment with Maia Bean. I hope today passes calmly for you both.

Happy 1st Birthday Thea, hope you have a party in the clouds.xx
I will light a candle for Thea today, I am thinking of you both.xx

fanjodisfunction · 13/03/2012 05:49

too thankyou for sharing your birthing story. I really hope the dog gets used to maia. Make sure you spend some time with the dog without maia, aswell.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 13/03/2012 00:48

Birth Story:

Woke up at 5am on Friday and spent an hour panicking about lack of movement, to the point where we got the doppler out blush. Got to the hospital at 7.45am, after brief pit stop at McDs to feed DH - just as well we did, as things turned out! Allocated a private room (score!) in the ante-natal ward, had brief check (hb, bp etc) and given two hospital gowns to put on, one forwards and one backwards for modesty. Weirdly, had to keep my own shoes on to walk down to the labour ward and theatre. In the labour ward, DH taken away to put scrubs on, I signed consent form for spinal and we went into the operating theatre at 9am. Heaps of ppl milling around looking official. Anaesthetist put canula in my hand and attached saline solution, BP cuff went on other arm and they got me to lean forward over a pillow and painted my back with iodine ready for the local anaesthetic before the spinal. At this point, someone sticks their head in and says 'hold it, there's a prolapse coming down'. Everyone freezes, and 2 minutes later it's confirmed and we had to get out of there pronto. Less than 3 minutes later they would have had the spinal in and we would have been unstoppable.

We were sent to wait in a delivery room, and after about half an hour the consultant came in, apologised for the delay and said we should be good to go as soon as the theatre was cleaned up. Then 5 minutes later the MW came back and said another emergency had come in. So we kicked our heels, with me getting v hungry and thirsty and hot and both of us getting more nervous and tense by the minute.

We went back into the operating theatre at 12, and this time there was much less chit-chat - they got the spinal in as fast as they could just in case we got interrupted again. The local anaesthetic didn't hurt very much - I'd heard bad stories but it was nothing. They had to flush out the canula because it had got a bit clogged during all the waiting and that was painful. The spinal itself went in and they got me to lie down flat and then tilted the bed slightly sideways. The anaesthetist sprayed me with something icy cold, on the arm as a test, and then worked her way up my tummy and I could feel that something was spraying on me but I couldn't feel hot or cold until she got to my chest, at which point it suddenly went icy. Then she asked what she was doing to my tummy, and it felt like she was poking it, but she said no, she had her fingernails dug right in. She asked DH to look and verify it (interesting piece of patient psychology there!) and explained that although I would feel tugging and pressure, I wouldn't feel any pain. And that's pretty much exactly what happened. I could feel movement, but nothing hurt.

They got started and Bean was born very quickly - within 5 minutes, at 12.23. The consultant asked DH to stand up so he could see her being born, and she was lifted out and she cried as they lifted her. I got a quick glimpse and then the MW and DH took her off to the next room to be weighed and dried. She started really howling in there - I could hear her crying and DH said it was the toweling down that she didn't like. Then they brought her back through and put her on my chest while they finished sewing me up. This didn't take very long and before I knew it, the consultant was saying she'd had to do a slight V shape but everything had gone smoothly and there had been no problems. I was through in the recovery room by 12.40, and Bean snuggled on my chest and snuffled a bit but didn't really try to feed. DH started texting everyone and after maybe 45 minutes they wheeled me back upstairs to my room and we settled in.

She is so tiny and perfect and beautiful! 6lb 5 seems to be pretty small - she fits the Tiny Baby stuff from Mothercare perfectly even though that's for babies of 5lbs. She took an hour or so after birth to really start looking for food, although I tried feeding her a few times and gradually she got the message. Over the past 3 days her bite has got much stronger and she's started feeding more intensely. We were let out on Sunday afternoon and she's been feeding pretty well and has pooped more than I was expecting, so I think that's good. The only thing is that she has a slight heart murmur, but this is apparently really common and hopefully it will be gone by her 6 week check. She's been referred to the children's hospital for a kidney follow-up, but the first thing she did was pee on the MW while she was being weighed, so they don't seem concerned. She seems to be peeing plenty.

Pain-wise after the CS, it took about 6 hours before my feet felt normal again, so no pain all that time. I don't think I really felt any pain except twinges for the first 24 hours. The first night was pretty grim because I was so hot - I still had the catheter in and couldn't move much, they wouldn't let me have the window open and everything in the bed seemed to be made of plastic and sticking to me (catheter tube, incontinence pad thing, horrible plastic pillows). I was running with sweat and I was scared I was overheating Bean, who I kept in the bed with me most of the night because I couldn't get her out of her cot on my own. The catheter came out the next morning and then they got me up and in the shower not long after that. Getting up twinged, but no more than that, really. It feels hot, like a burn, when it hurts. They had me peel the dressing off in the shower and then DH helped me get dressed in a clean nightie and pants and after that I was much more comfortable. I've now had a look at the scar with a mirror and it's very thin. I think it'll be very discreet. My tummy feels a bit numb between scar and belly button, but hopefully that'll wear off eventually. I'm pretty mobile today, although to be fair I haven't tried to do much. It hurts a bit pulling myself into a vertical sitting position but not badly. I'm on paracetamol and dicloflex, with dihydracodeine if I think I need it, and although I took a dihydracodeine today that was mainly as a preventative measure before I attempted getting in the bath. It didn't sting in the bath either, which I had been worried about. Oh, I'll tell you what hurt - wind! blush On Sunday I had really bad stomach cramps, like period pain and as if someone had tied a string round my middle and pulled tight. I didn't know what it was - thought it might be afterpains, but it was wind. I had been taking peppermint oil capsules, but either they didn't work or else it would have been much worse without them.

Tomorrow we're going to try a brief walk, and it's also Thea's birthday so we'll be taking Maia down to the cemetery. Not sure how the Day 3/4 baby blues are going to cope with that, but hopefully it won't be too bad. I got pretty upset and cried last night because the dog is totally freaked out by Bean - I sat on the sofa and started feeding her and she was crying, and the dog jumped up next to me and and got hold of the foot of her babygro in his teeth. He was smacked and hustled back down again, but started whining and fretting whenever she made a sound and staring at her intently and it was quite scary. I suggested putting his cage in the bedroom because he usually sleeps on the bed and I didn't want him to feel too marginalised in case it made things worse. Last night he whined and fretted whenever she cried, but DH spent lots of time introducing him to her calmly today and basically setting boundaries. I wouldn't dare leave him in the room with her unsupervised, but things have progressed to the point where it's definitely fear, not aggression - he shakes, whimpers and howls when she cries. Luckily DH has 4 weeks at home and we can spend plenty of time working on it. He's a rescue dog and we don't know if he's lost a home when a new baby arrived in the past - we know he's good with older kids (ie, ages 1 and up), so this took us by surprise.

This is a mammoth post and I should have been sleeping! Bean has started to stir again so I'd better go and try feeding before I aim for some sleep.

fanjodisfunction · 12/03/2012 21:13

angel well done 4.5 lbs is great hope Im succesful like you.

vicky Im so excited for you, not long to wait and then that little fella will be in your arms. Are you getting a tattoo with his name on as well?

spilt well done on selling the house. fx you find your new one soon. Are you finding BLW easy though? I have heard some really good things about it from friends, who now have unfussy eaters as kids! I do like the idea, having them explore food rather than us spoon it down their mouths.

DH and I have been discussing when we need to go for a fertility check up, next month will be Fi's first birthday and then July will be a full year since my cp, so we have decided that if I dont fall pg by july we are going to go to the doctors. I feel like a bit of pressure has been taken off me now we have discussed this, at least we are on the same page. But I am really hoping that losing some weight will really help me get pg. Im hoping blizy that blue has started a snow ball of BFP's for us left pg-less on this thread.

AngelGeorgie · 12/03/2012 21:00

Oh congrats on your house sale Spilt xxxWink

AngelGeorgie · 12/03/2012 20:59

Fan yeh I lost 4.5 lbs. GrinGrin makes it all worthwhile. Good luck at yours xx
Spilt I m dreading weaning though it's coming up very soon. Am very worried about BLW might skip that as the thought of her chocking is very scarey . You sound like you re doing ok though. All the info out there seems to be terribly conflicting though. Xx
Hi all: love to all xxxx

vickyd0 · 12/03/2012 17:11

A week today very excited xxx

spilttheteaagain · 12/03/2012 16:00

oh blizy Shock am blushing in sympathy and the hairs on the back of my neck have gone all prickly, what an excruciatingly embarrassing thing to happen!!

razz and vicky so soon for you both now, what a few weeks we are having here! Hang in there, the pg stress from hell is nearly over, your babies are so nearly here xx

fan glad your rat babies are settling in well, love the names Grin

wtw you can ask for more frequent mw appointments if it would be reassuring to have a weekly listen in to the hb or similar. No need to go 16-20 weeks with nothing in between if you'd rather not.

Hope it's all going well too, it's an almightly shock isn't it to suddenly have every second of your day taken over by someone else, to the extent that getting to leg it to the loo for a wee feels like a luxury!

News here... we have a buyer for our house, whoop!! But no houses of interest currently for sale Confused. Viewed another 3 this weekend but none were right. Freya was good as gold being dragged round mortgage appointments and viewings all day, gurgled and smiled at everyone. She did have a grumpy fit after an hour in the mortgage appt and so I had to feed her whilst carrying on discussing numbers/options. Blush

We are beginning on weaning slowly. It's fantastic seeing her face as she tries new things - chilli was hilarious , and she is loving cucumber and kiwi especially. But I am terrified about choking and can't take my eyes off her when she's eating and always have a "phew, survived that" sigh of relief after a meal. We are doing BLW so diving straight in with finger foods, not pureeing. Just as well as she is not amused if we try and put a spoon of yoghurt or whatever in her mouth - we have to give her the spoon and she will try and do it herself!

fanjodisfunction · 12/03/2012 12:05

blizy omg! Poor you, it happened to a friend of mine and she took the key away straight away.

angel weigh in is tomorrow, I'm doing ok. How's it going for you?

Had a bit of a wobble today, I just don't want to be here at this job anymore, I wish I could just jack it in! But I guess I have to stick it out and see if I get this other job. And when I get down like this I always think of what could of been, I should be basking in the sunshine teaching Fi to walk!

Whatevertheweather · 12/03/2012 10:49

How you feeling August have you had your 16w appt yet? x

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AngelGeorgie · 12/03/2012 09:41

Ha ha that's funny!! ( especially when it's not me!!) Blush

AugustMoon · 12/03/2012 09:40

Aw, just had a chance to check in after a manic weekend and see all this fabulous news. Firstly, well done too and welcome baby Maia - so happy for you and mr. Too here!
And blue! Wow, that's just fantastic :o
Blizy, eek, hehe - that's hysterical, sorry - you must be mortified but it is quite funny :o

Whatevertheweather · 12/03/2012 09:35

Oh Blizy I am cringing for you Blush

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blizy · 12/03/2012 09:26

Cd 12 here. Dh and I were having some fun on the sofa yesterday an fil let himself in the back door and caught us in a compromising position!Blush Shock. Omg. I am so embarrassed, I am never going to be able to look him in the eye again! Thankfully he only caught sight of my boobage as I yelped jumped up with a cushion covering my bits and ran upstairs!
Dh took his key off him and gave him a verbal bollocking! Grin

shakeyjake · 12/03/2012 08:56

Yay gratz blue here's to another beautiful rainbow baby, so happy for you

MiaAlexandrasmummy · 11/03/2012 21:31

Loving the news of blue's BFP. Brilliant! And baby Maia sounds gorgeous, too. razz we are now all FX for you too. whatever, can't believe it's already 15 weeks for you.

fan sorry to hear about AF, but glad to hear you seem so positive and that your DH is promising to stop drink-and-cycling!!

FX for lots more good news this months for all us TTC-ers...

AngelGeorgie · 11/03/2012 21:06

Wow : such a lovely happy thread at tge moment long may it continue. Xx
Razz excellant news. Xx my Phebs was/ is a chunky monkey but rather that than underweight & not thriving!!!( though you wouldn t think so according to the HV's)!!!
Too enjoy every minute because it really does fly by. Does Maia look at all like Thea ? Only asking as Pheb's looks very similar to our Georgie , obviously they ve both got our characteristics but they are the same characteristics. Ant's mouth , my nose etc.., I find that lovely. MrToo enjoy your nappy changing!!! My hubby is fine with that also ( not that he shouldn t be ad we have to but u know what I mean!!!) ie: dont think my dad has ever changed a nappy in his life.hope u re managing to get some sleep in between all the visitors and feeding.xxx
Blue fab news. So happy for you xx
Big FX for Fan,Blizy,& Mia xxx
Fan hope your rats are ok? When's your weigh in? Xxx
Vicki thanks.
Love to all. Had a lovely sunny weekend, took Phebs swimming again today & out for lunch ( us , not her!!) she's so good.
Got a friend visiting tomorrow. Xxx

fanjodisfunction · 11/03/2012 21:04

wtw push bike, he said today he doesnt think he had any lights on and when he showed me the road he got knoked over on I saw that he must have been swerveing in the middle of the road to cross over. Idiot! I have told him alot to day that he is a twat! Anyway.
Yeah I am trying to be busy and make myself happy, I am sure this will help me get pg. The daffs at the cemetary are beautiful arent they, they are miniture daffs, not sure the name of them some of the guys I work with planted them.
Today has been beautiful, had my aprents round for tea, had a lovely walk in nature reserve (that I could be working in soo fx) and then Im just about to snuggle up to the old hubbie in bed, fancy an early night and also hes on night shift so like to have enough proper sleep before he leaves for work at 11.30.

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