Angels and Rainbows - The beauty of a rainbow does not negate the ravages of the storm. But it can provide colour and hope.

fan the online slimming clubs are good, dh has used slimming world and weight watchers when they've had offers on membership and both seemed really good and easy enough to fit in with "normal" meals. He's really self conscious about his weight and I hate to see him feeling so bad about himself, I don't care what his weight is. It's so hard as he can't excercise either due to his health and bad leg, so many things wrong with him and he's only young :(

too that's the last thing you need! Please don't worry about bean being prem, she will be fine even if she does need a bit of extra help at birth. Ella was 34 weeks when I was induced, well half induced, and although she needed a lot of things in the nicu she is doing amazingly well now. It was hard seeing her with so many tubes and wires in her but it was a million times better than the possible alternative. I truely believe it was for the best and also that the result wouldn't have been a happy one had I not been induced when I was. I need to think long and hard about the future too as my problems started a few weeks before and had they been worse I'd have been induced a few weeks beforehand.

You do use extra calories up when you bf but I always have to be careful afterwards as you're used to eating a bit more and then put weight on again. I lost a fair bit while I was pregnant due to being so careful with the diabetes. I weigh less now than I did before I got pregnant and still losing as I've now also gone dairy free to try and help Ella as she was being sick a lot and I thought it might be a milk intolerance. She's hardly been sick at all since I stopped with dairy so it might be helping. I'm a vegetarian anyway so going vegan wasn't a massive step, although I am missing cheese...

ciwi I love the name Cillian, it's beautiful. How are you feeling now? I'm sure you're so relieved! It's a big rollercoaster of emotion though isn't it. I also felt the same during labour, the thoughts going through my mind were only if the baby was ok, nothing else mattered at all. I cried when she was born both with happiness and relief.

whatever I really couldn't picture everything working out and I still worry constantly now. We bought (well my parents bought it for us) an apnea monitor for Ella's moses basket (will work on a cot/cotbed too) just for peace of mind. One of the scbu nurses said a lot of the parents of preemies buy them and that she'd be using one when she has a baby too as it's just extra precaution. Ella had one while she was in hospital but it was attached to her foot/wrist, she never set it off though.

miasmummy sorry af arrived :(

angel those breaks sound lovely, very envious. I don't think I could go away just yet with all the dcs with Ella so young. I hate flying too, so much so that I've refused for about 15 years! Such a wuss and I know I need to do something about it but I get such bad panic attacks I doubt I'd even get on the plane. It doesn't help that I'm also terrified of heights, sigh.

blizy dh is after losing a fair amount of weight and I know that the grief didn't help him either, that on top of being ill and on huge doses of steroids made him gain more weight. Good luck with the swi

vicky great news about your brother

I've been doing good here, it's a bit disconcerting that I haven't felt depressed or had baby blues at all though, is that normal?? I'm worrying that something will come back to bite me at some point. It's an odd feeling now that I'm not pregnant and worrying all the time, I realise how much I had going on in my head. I was thinking all the time, always worrying about what would go wrong and thinking through every possibility. It's a huge weight off my mind but feels a bit empty now too. It's a lot easier now but the worries I had are replaced with new ones. As I said, it's not the same as before but there are still worries there.

Not sure if I said before (that's one thing now, I cannot remember anything! Conversations with dh are so hazy and I put down to broken/lack of sleep!) but Ella was born with a tooth! Yes a tooth, and it's huge! It's a bottom front tooth and she nips with it a little. She's worse when she's ending a feed as she pulls a bit as she spits my nipple out and it's a bit ouchie! Need to get some nipple cream tomorrow as it looks like I have a graze/little cut from her.

Phew, epic post! Hope you're all well :) By the way, if anyone has facebook that isn't already on there then please pm me and I'll add you. I would pm but don't want to send out lots and hassle people.

Fan I ve been to my meeting & omg now I remember how boring they are!!1.30 hours of clapping everyone who's lost weight , what they aim to loose next week, what ll they will do different etc... Now I remember why I never stay to the meetings!!! Anyhow , here we go ( again!!) ..what day is your meeting? Xx
Vicki sweet!!!
Love to all , hope you re all well? Xx

angel ah thats good to know it will be like we are at the same meeting, but not. lol. Im determined to lose weight now, had my first day out on the tools today and well Im so out of shape and need to lose weight. So hoping that working hard at work and losing weight at slimming world will get me fit in the next few months.

vicky how lucky are you to have a brother like that. And also how lukcy for your babies to be born so close together.

blizy nearly snap on the af front, its surpriseing what pregnancy can do to it all. Im also on the quest to lose 3-4 stone, Ive put on 2 stone since july, and I also remember i lost 10lbs when i was ttcing ophelia, so hoping if I get my arse in gear it can only help

vicky what a great brother!

Hi every1 hope all is well ,, got my last consultant n scan nxt thurs 15th and the anthestist on da 16 seems pretty real i keep praying i b fine the nxt 2 weeks i need to c the finish line . My bro n his gf had a healthy lil boy at 12.45 this mrning weighing 6.10 and all my bro could say to my mum was i really want my sister to feel the way i do bless him xxx

ciwi Huuuge congratulations to you and yours! What lovely news to sign in and see and a fab name. I hope you are recovering from the forceps etc (ouch you poor thing!) and well done little Cillian on getting well enough to come home. Hope you are getting some lovely cuddles and maybe the odd bit of sleep!! xxxxx

ciwi Cillian is a fab name! I'm glad you are both home, enjoy your little bundle. x

mia AF is rubbish! Hope you are ok?

I too really need to loose weight (about 3/4 stone), I just can't seem to to stop eating eating! I am comfort eating and I really need to break the cycle, grief really does take it's toll on your body.
AF has gone. My af has changed since having Zoe, I now spot for 2-5 days before cd1 and only have a proper bleed for 2 days, then one more day of spotting, then it's gone! I used to bleed really heavily for the full 5 days.
Tonight the SWI will commence..........

Mia boo hiss for AF xxx
Ciwi great name. Glad you re all home & well. Enjoy your " babymoon*xx
Too I can remember all your feelings like it was yesterday .I was convinced the same would happen to Phebs as did with Georgie. You will be fine but you won t think that until you hear your baby cry or see them for the first time.
Whatever hi xxx
Mm... Interesting post about " other threads & August" as I too have just had a load of crap on my other thread , we think, from a troll. Long story but she/he/it got booted off after using an offensive term. Was a horrible person who accused me & 1 other of bullying , reported us but I know at least 4 people who reported it!!!
Fan funnily enough I m returning to Slimming world tomorrow!!! I ve done SWorld & W.Watchers in the past & I get on better with S world. I lost most of my weight after I had Phebs however I went in to that pregnancy a stone heavier than normal due to grieving then since Dec/Xmas I ve put another 2 stone on. I disgusted with myself my clothes are uncomfortable , I m buying bigger sizes... So I decided to regain some control back
I go!!! I m actually looking foreward to doing it again .Ant cooks so he does it with me & he does well also. I'd like to loose at least 2-3 stone . We ve got some mini beaks booked in June then Euro-Disney in August & hopefully Majorca in Sept so those are my inspirations . Good luck xxx( I also did it before I got pg with Georgie ad again it gave me a degree of control over my life & made me feel better about myself)
Love to everyone else xxxxx
Had a fab weekend at my folks but v knackered now . Phebs, quite rightly, fussed to death!!!!
Xxx

ciwi Cillian is a beautiful name, so glad he is home now.

whatever and too

too your family is probably reacting to the recent "non-news" article about babies being born 'early'. And yes, I do believe your consultant probably does know a little more than them Then again, people always feel obliged to tell pregnant women all kinds of weird things...

fan I have just discovered a very scary app called My Fitness Pal, which helps you record your weight loss goals, food consumed and exercise... DH has it too, and I suspect we are both in for a rapid re-education in calorie consumption!

AF arrived today. Pooh. But expected it might, I had no feeling of pregnancy at all, although I had nice high temps. Trying not to be too disappointed. Will hold onto those baby dreams though.

We had snow here too, but all gone now...

wtw im really jealous of the snow, it didnt here in g-town! though my friends were all posting about how it was snowing in f-town and the surrounding areas! We just had driving rain!

Cillian is a lovely name, Ciwi. Feisty is such a cute meaning! Yay for being home again, and good for little Cillian feeding away and getting his sugar levels right.

I shall also be thinking about slimming soon enough but have been told no jogging/strenuous exercise until 8-10 weeks post-section. Am pinning my hopes on the magical weight loss effect of breastfeeding about which I have heard so much.

ciwi I love the name, Cillian was on my list but DH wasnt sure as we are not irish. And also our last name begins with c and he doesnt like alliteration names even though mine is one. But I guess i married into it.

I think slimming world is best for me, theres a class just down the road.

x posts too i felt like that also at times, even in labour I was worrying about movement. I was glad to be put on the continuous ctg once the drip started. Its not ridiculous at all when you have been through what you have. you will be fine, even though you wont believe that all the time, try to believe it some of the time x

Hi again everyone,
We are finally home. Blood sugars are fine though they had to feed him a lot to keep them up so having to top breastfeeds up with formula to settle him. He then developed jaundice so we had to stay in a bit longer till his levels came down. It's lovely being home, very emotional though. I know his brother will be proud of him. We decided to call him Cillian, meaning 'feisty' it suits him perfectly.
too and razz you are both nearly there, the last few days/ weeks do seem to drag, cant wait to hear of your arrivals.
fan i will be joining you on the keep fit thing. i have done weightwatchers on line in the past and lost about a stone. got more than that to shift now though!
cheese glad all is going well in your household.
thanks everyone else for the well wishes, sorry not to reply to everyone individually, too much to catch up on. will try to keep up to date from now on x

I haven't any direct experience of slimming clubs, Fan, but it is easier if someone else is doing it too, so Slimming World sounds good. When I do proper diets I make DH do them with me. I have used the GlamourDiets.com calorie counter and joined the Dukan Diet thread on here before as well. There's a whole section of MN on weight loss clubs, so you might get a lot of good advice from them, and some buddies to diet with. Feeling good about yourself is invaluable, and I have read that even a small weight loss boosts your chances of conception, so FX!

Cheese, don't remind me that I won't be 40 weeks! I have had first my stepmum and then my dad on the phone banging on about won't Bean be premature at 37 weeks and wouldn't it be better for her to stay inside for an extra week or two? Then I found out from my sister that my grandma had been winding mum up with the same idea! Yes, I'm sure that you are all right and the consultant is wrong! If she thought there was anything wrong with delivering at 37 weeks then she wouldn't let me do it! Grr. Bean is going to be perfectly healthy (please God) and prove them all wrong. I'm hardly going to go back to the consultant now and ask them to move my section date forward a week.

I believe she will be born, I just don't entirely believe she will be alive. I was crying the other night and realised I was thinking about her in exactly the same way as I do about Thea. It's like I'm starting to mourn her already, just to be prepared. Does that sound ridiculous?

what an exciting week this week will be for you too, so many rainbow babies on their way.

Im thinking of joining slimming world this week, my keep fit thing well im just not motivated enough to do it I need a kick up the backside and I think joining a group might just do that. Do any of you girls have any experience with climming clubs? I think if I start feeling batter about myself Im sure this will help me get pg.

Too not long to go now! You must be excited and nervous all at once. I didn't think it felt real either! I really did think that she wouldn't be born, not sure what I thought would happen but I didn't believe it could be real.

razz glad the steroids are in now. Are your levels high? I ended up being induced as my diabetes was unstable but my levels were really low, it was definitely the right decision to induce me.

vicky you're nearly there too.

ciwi hope you're home now and enjoying your little bundle :)

whatever brilliant scan news :)

So many of us having babies now, all due around the same time. It's odd when I think that I wouldn't have been 40 weeks even yet, I know I would have been induced before that anyway but still!

Razz, glad to hear you're home again. Hope the next 2 weeks fly by for you too! Not long now...Ha, ppl keep saying that to me and I always think .

Angel, you're right, it doesn't feel real at all.

Yay for a lovely day out, Wtw.

Hello, everyone else!

Ciwi xxx for your boy & your family.
Too eek so close wow : this time next week. I remember it well none of it felt real!!
Vici excellant news x
Whatever glad you had a good day xx
Hi all. Xxxx

ciwi fantastic news, huge congratulations sent your way. He is finally here safe and sound......looking forward to hearing what you have called him.
too lucky you with less than a week left, try to relax and enjoy the quiet time with dh.

I have been in hospital from wednesday and only just got home today. Had my steroids but finding it difficult to keep my blood sugar levels stable. How I hope the next two weeks fly by................