Do you get spotting before AF / period? Come and talk to me here

Your not out until AF shows! And you might not fall on ur first go on clomid etc. takes 6 months with ‘normal fertility’ so ur basically starting again becuase your normalised your progesterone.

@burtle4 @Bubblybub im feeling so deflated I’m only 4/5 dpo and I’ve had a dip In my chart which happens in all my non pregnancy charts. It’s right down to my cover line and obviously isn’t implantation because it’s too early. I just feel so down that I’m out already. I’ve had clomid. Estrogen and progesterone I don’t know what more I can do :( I’ve literally cried all morning. I wish I stopped tempting after I confirmed ovulation xx

I'd like to join this threat as I'm well confused. On cycle 2 of TTC no 3. I have 28 cycles and ovulate on CD14, so pretty standard. I've been testing negative on pregnancy tests this weekend. Yesterday I had a clump of blood and goop (sorry TMI) but then absolutely nothing else all day. This morning I had the slightest brown blood when i wiped after my first morning wee!... Now I have absolutely nothing again. I was technically due on tomorrow. Im going to wait and see what happens tomorrow but my eyes were drew to this thread as I've literally never had this before. I even bought tampons today and went to pop one in before work but there's literally no blood... #soconfused haha

If your doctor doesn’t give you progesterone which most won’t, then just get the cream I linked up there ^^. This will give you 50mg per pump. I use to do two pumps a day! Obvioisly pessaries are stronger so if you can get them then horray but I know exactly what doctors are like when it comes to fertility and progesterone! Yet everyone I’ve put on progesterone out of my friends etc have all now got babies after trying for so long or having lots of miscarriages!

@burtle4 thanks - you're so right, doctors seem so quick to dismiss it even though progesterone obviously makes a significant difference. There was the research by Tommys recently that suggested progesterone should be given out more often as theres no harm to using it and it may really help people!

@Loz2467 sorry for your loss. hope the progesterone makes a difference, will be really interested to hear how you go!

I think if this cycle is another BFN (currently 7dpo) I'll give the docs a ring and request it.... Not sure what response I'll get 😂

Does anyone else go mad symptom spotting? I know I shouldn't but occasionally i get different symtpoms and I start getting my hopes up.... Then AF arrives 🙄

@RugbyGirl1 so sorry for your loss! For me my first two cycles after my loss were pretty normal then it was from last July all the brown spotting started. Sometimes 5dpo or 7 dpo or 8 dpo. Just varied. Progesterone last august was 61 which is obviously very high but I still got lots of dark sludge spotting that month. Had another in December and it was 37. Then last month which was my first clomid round I had it done on the first day of spotting and it was 21 which is low. Because of the august read and the December read being okay and high bbt temps after ovulation I’d ruled out low progesterone and assumed it was something else. Paid private and had a hyterscopy and biopsy which found no polyps or infection etc so now I’m into trying the progesterone. Been TTC now maybe like 16 mo that and just nothing! I mean I don’t know if the prog has helped the spotting yet because I’ve only done 2 nights of it and I’m only 4 dpo. I will keep you posted. @burtle4 and @Bubblybub have been so helpful! Xx

@RugbyGirl1 I would definitely try and get some progesterone. For some reason doctors don't seem to think it's an issue and if you're ovulating then it must all be ok but my progesterone test results were always borderline or low and the doctor would always assume it meant I hadn't ovulated that month but I knew I had because of my shift in temperature. I never got a hint of a bfp in the two years of trying until 2 months on the progesterone pessaries. It doesn't harm to try and more than worth it if it works! Good luck!

Heya - do you guys mind if I join? Been ttc for 18 months now, had one early loss in September last year but other than that not a single BFP. I used to spot pink / light red a few days before AF, that gradually improved with vitamins and acupuncture but the last two cycles I've started brown spotting / cm tinged from 5dpo. Of course last month I got my hopes up thinking it was implantation, albeit early perhaps, but nah! We were referred to fertility consultant and had the first appointment last week. She dismissed the spotting and my fairly low progesterone results, said it's all fine as long as I have a period then I'm ovulating and hormones are all good 🙄 said to keep trying for another 6 months and if still not pregnant, will be fine to proceed straight away with IVF. I can't help thinking there is something to try in the meantime? Would you guys suggest I contact my GP for progesterone support maybe?

Good luck to those of you trying this cycle 🤞

@Loz2467 haha I know, I would try and lie down afterwards for a bit - another reason why the lunchtime one didn't work! For what it's worth the month we caught I thought we'd completely missed it as for some reason I ovulated really early and we'd only managed to dtd once and not on the right day - but it didn't seem to matter! Good luck with the 2 week wait, hope it doesn't drag too much!

@burtle4 thank you! Fingers crossed it does stop it. Else I’ll be stumped what else to check! Just didn’t get to do the deed as much was I wanted too :( because my partner was working away! Yeah they seem a bit messy. Sorry for TMI but when some was in my pants throughout today I was like eeeekkk stay put! Xx

@Loz2467 I don't fully remember but I think I was given 200mg pessaries and was told to take 3 a day, but I ended up doing one in am and one in pm so had 400mg per day also. In my experience it completely stopped the spotting so fingers crossed it will do the same for you 🤞 They're not the nicest things to use as can get pretty messy which is the main reason i decided to not put one in at lunchtime as well, but 400mg a day turned out to be fine!

@Bubblybub thank you so much! Why am I worrying already 🙈 that’s not gonna help the situation. I’ll literally be on holiday and I don’t want the spotting to ruin it :( because then I’ll even be worried about IVF. Seems so strange when I’ve got pregnant twice easily I really do hope the progesterone helps and I can get another few more months worth to try. Xx

400mg a day is fine. When u fall pregnant they might up it. Every doctor is different but 400mg is enough to sustain a pregnancy.

@burtle4 I was just re reading the thread and I’ve only got 1 400mg pessary a day. He said one each evening. I started them last night so feeling anxious incase they don’t stop my spotting but also glad to be trying something different to try and figure this out. I do have a 2 month supply so I could be using 2 but I should do what the Dr suggests shouldn’t i? And then if I do still get spotting maybe I’ll up the dose to twice a day next cycle? Obviously I’ll ask my Dr because I’ll need another prescription anyway if I’m doubling my dose.

@Loz2467 you're welcome, I know how hard it is to be going through it, good luck with this cycle, let us know how it goes!

@Bubblybub yeah completely agree with that! I was spotting at 7/8dpo last month and that was the day I had the blood test and it was 21 n mol. Yeah I can see actually you still had the higher temps too!

This might sound crazy! But I’ve read that with low progesterone the brown spotting before period is from your previous cycle working it’s way out? Hence how old it is. Which does kinda make sense because after my hyterscopy I didn’t get the brown spotting before my period. My period just started. So question is… what if it is old blood from
a previous cycle surely it’s there now? And will still come out in my luteal phase this time?

im on cycle day 7. Took my last clomid last night and starting estrogen today till day 11 then the progesterone 48 hrs after ovulation.

I can’t thank you ladies enough for being there and listening!

Thank you @burtle4 also!

Literally no point in progesterone testing unless they do it when your spotting. Yeh do you can see by my graph above that my temps were still high even though I was spotting. Where abouts are you in your cycle ?

@Bubblybub i was just wondering you mention High BBT didn’t you even though you was brown spotting for a week before flow? Is that right? I honestly just always steered away from low progesterone because of my super high temps but it seems one of the last things to rule out.

my GP has agreed to do full blood count including full thyroid panel which is a positive.

my Dr at the fertility clinic asked me to ask my doctor to repeat my progesterone test again but I think I’m pushing the boat a bit!

@Loz2467 afraid not ☹

@burtle4 @Bubblybub do any of you know what happened to any of the other women on the thread. The ones who still spotted on the progesterone and hadn’t got the BFP. Just looking for anymore positive stories as I even spotted brown for a whole week on the month I got a prog reading of 61 n mol .

@Bubblybub @burtle4 Thank you so much for sharing all this. I’ve checked my script and it’s 1 400mg pessary in the evening 2 days after ovulation. Maybe he’s starting me on that dose and if I still spot he can up it.

I was convinced I had endometriris and I’d read soooo much about it! I felt like I didn’t trust the biopsy properly because the lab messed up and only did half the tests so im finding it hard to believe I don’t have endometritis. I have the symptoms of it and also everything that happened from my miscarriage points to that :( because I had an infection and manual removal of placenta it’s really common to get that after hence why I eventually paid for the biopsy. The endometriris also stops your endometrium reacting to progesterone hence the spotting.

I’ll have to see. My head is everywhere :( as you can probably see! Then it just seems so odd that it did start the month of the covid vaccine but I think as humans we try and look for something don’t we.

But I have to try this next medication now and see how I get on. If I still spot I might even ask for the antibiotics for the infection and see what he says. Fingers crossed he can give me a few months of these meds to try.

yeah I know what you mean about my thyroid and because my TSH is okay I’m thinking it isn’t that but worth an ask wirh my GP first.

I’ll see how this month goes for us. Thanks so much again xxx

I'm the same as you @Bubblybub, as soon as I realised what the problem was I wanted to shout it from the rooftops! So many doctors don't think it's a thing for some reason! @Loz2467 I think if it will ease your mind then get a thyroid check done but I think give the pessaries a good go first, and definitely push for more months of it if you don't get pregnant the first month - even when trying naturally it's not always guaranteed that you'll get pregnant on the first month of trying. I also don't think you'll spot on the pessaries which is great but harder to take when the period just comes at you full whack on the month you don't get pregnant (keeping everything crossed for you that it will happen for you in the first month though!) Mine were 400mg each, prescribed them 3 times a day but I only did morning and night and they still did the trick. Then stayed on them for the first 16 weeks, was so scared to stop them!

P.s I generally don’t think you’d spot on pessarie progesterone as they are 300mg I think so very very high! 😀

Here’s my pregnancy chart. If your worried about the thyroid still then get it done but I don’t think that will be the problem. I’ve helped so many people now by just saying the word progesterone. My friend had 6 miscarriages, I gave her the cream and she now has a 4 month old. No much for ‘no science’ behind it.

@burtle4 that’s great thank you! I definitely get a clear shift between my phases which I guess shows ovulation. My private script came through today too so intrigued about going collecting it!

sorry to be an absolute pain but have my ovaries maybe just turned naff as I turned 35 or is it worth having full thyroid panel done to try and find out the cause of low progesterone. I just really hope and pray the meds work and he gives me a few more months of this before moving to IVF. Also as I mentioned before I feel reluctant to go to IVF if the progesterone doesn’t fix my spotting. But it’s it’s nothing physical I’m praying it is the progesterone and it’s an easy fix xx