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@burtle4 oh amazing thank you! Hopefully mine will be here tomorrow then. I’m away with work so I need it here asap so I don’t miss the fertile window. I know that’s what I maybe need to keep reminding myself that this is like starting a fresh. I think I’m just worried incase there’s any other issues that I don’t know of yet even though I’ve had a lot of tests and surgery just panicking somethings been missed because it does seem odd to go from easy conception to nothing but I’m hoping and praying that it’s just the low progesterone and my Dr will continue to prescribe them to me. Xx

@Loz2467 I've just looked at my old chart and I took my last one on the Tuesday evening and my period came on the Saturday so hopefully yours will be here by tomorrow? The wait is really annoying because I remember just wanting to get on with the next cycle! Yes I would definitely give it a few cycles before worrying because it is like starting fresh and they say on average it takes 6 months to get pregnant when everything is normal x

@MrsChicken89 sorry it hasn’t happened for you yet but it definitely sounds like you’ve got your spotting under control which is amazing. Just tough keeping going when nothing is identified.

@burtle4 i had my last pessary Wednesday evening and still waiting for AF. No brown spotting yet so I’m hoping I go straight to flow like you said. Just want it to be here now though so I can get started with the next cycle. I really do hope it’s a case of catching the egg now. Am I literally starting fresh? I was gonna go for IVF before Xmas but I’m thinking I should at least do 6 months TTC. Because technically I’ve not had any “normal” months have I? Xx

@Loz2467 sorry that it was negative but please don't give up, at least you know it's working and now it's just a question of catching the egg! Easier said than done but just try and relax and enjoy your holiday!
@MrsChicken89 sorry to hear that it's still not happening for you. I would definitely try progesterone although it sounds like you've got your spotting under control which is great. I never used the cream but I guess you start using it after ovulation like the pessaries x

I havent commented on here in years, currently at 4.5 years ttc!

Spotting has got better, it used to be a good 7 days before, now its only 2 ish days.

Currently taking vitamin D and coq10.

I have progesterone cream in the cupboard but never actually used it, when do I start taking it from?

Weve been through the fertility clinic and had all tests done and nothing stands out as an issue, currently trying to lose weight to have ivf.

Sorry for the quick run down but lost my original message!

@Bubblybub yeah your right maybe I need to not worry why and remember that I’ve got this to help me now. I always feel my ovulation too and never had issues getting Pg before have i so I’m praying this is the answer! I did a test this morning and BFN like I expected. I usually know when I’m pg. i need to try and think now that we’ve had everything tested even a camera done so just have to keep trying and hope that one month it happens!

Glad there’s no spotting. There isn’t a reason behind it. Some people just have low progesterone for no reason. I use to be in so much pain during ovulation so I wouldn’t even say mine was weak. Yet I still had low progesterone. It’s just where your hormones aren’t balanced. They can get out of whack from pregnancy, miscarriages, lifestyle, stres. Anything! So try not to stress about the ‘reason’ behind it. what matters is that the progesterone has stopped the spotting. Have you tested yet? Don’t come off it til you test on day14. X

@burtle4 @Bubblybub I’m 11 or 12 dpo and no spotting!!! Seems like after 12 months of this brown spotting it is low progesterone after all. I’m going to stop the pessaries in a couple of days, 2 more nights. Not looking forward to my period being here on holiday when it’s so hot etc and having my clomid side effects but I can’t change it.

I know this sounds crazy but now im thinking why do I have low estrogen and low progesterone - am I having a weak ovulation or is it an egg quality issue? I just don’t know? But then you guys still got pregnant. Im just stressing because it started last July after my covid vaccine. But then again we got the babies post mortem results that month. It was the due date. I just thought I’d be Pg again by the babies due date etc so wonder if it is raised cortisol and stress? I just don’t know. I know I should be thinking I’ve found something to “fix and help” but then still worried i won’t get Pg if there is a bigger issue with me.

@burtle4 i also can’t believe this is what worked for you after 2 years! Xx

@burtle4 thank you! I did wonder if this was the case. I’m dreading seeing the negative. 😩 but I guess it has to be done. I mean what sadness is it going to bring after 15 months of heartache anyway! It can’t really make me feel any worse that’s for sure! I’ll be on hols so I’ll have to buy some and pack them. I’m really not a tester I don’t even like doing ovulation testing! 🙈 xxx

@Loz2467 your period won't come when you're on the pessaries unfortunately so it can really mess with your head as it makes you think it must be because you're pregnant. You have to test on day 14 and if it's negative stop the pessaries, your period should then start within a few days. It is the hardest part of taking progesterone because every part of you wants to believe that you're pregnant (which of course there's every chance you could be) but at least you know it means it's doing the job it's supposed to do by keeping the bleeding at bay and keeping your lining in tact. The first month i was on them and i got a negative was hard to take, but the second month, I was so ready for it to be another negative and it was finally the positive I'd been waiting over 2 years for ❤️

@RugbyGirl1 amazing that you haven’t spotted this cycle! I have everything crossed for you!

I can’t believe how much infertility takes my time and energy! I never expected this - but then again no one does.

im not sure if to wait out for my laproscopy before starting the IVF route. I’m just starting to feel a little impatient.

ill let you know how the progesterone is. I’d normally start spotting tomorrow / Sunday. We go away at 2am Sunday morning so hoping my pessary would of dissolved within the few hours!

also. Will my period just start to come even when on the pessaries or do I need to stop them at 14 dpo? I can’t test - I literally can’t bear to see a negative test xx

@Loz2467 hopefully another cancellation will come along soon for you so you sont have to wait too long 😊 i think temps can sometimes be out randomly, from moving more in your sleep, body fighting off a cold etc, that you just may not know about

@Louise34mum have you tested?

I still have not started spotting, AF due tomorrow / Saturday but i have short luteal phase so will only be 10dpo tomorrow... Think i may test as no spotting is highly unusual!

@Bubblybub I’m praying! I don’t wanna have to have endo surgery too :( not yet. But I’m only 5 or 6 dpo. Temp went back up to 36.99 today. If anything the spotting will start at weekend if it’s my “usual time” xx

Yeah you can get silent endo but the symtpms your having just scream low progesterone. Have u had any spotting yet ?

@Bubblybub I know I literally have no other symptoms but you can have silent endo can’t you! I wonder if my uterine biopsy was tested for that last month.

you won’t believe - the hospital just called with a cancellation and asked for me to go for laproscopy next Friday! I’m on holiday! I feel so down about it. It would of been so helpful for my fertility and it was the last piece of the puzzle in looking for any potential issues!

Most deffo isn’t endo. I’d be very suprised. You would have other symptoms for that I reckon. Most people I know with endo are in so much pain on there period!!

@Louise34mum keep us posted if you tested! Fingers crossed!

@burtle4 yeah that completely makes sense it’s like I’m starting again and this is month one. Although don’t think I’m crazy - I followed this girl on IG who had brown spotting before her periods since a miscarriage back in 2020 and she had her laproscopy yesterday and it’s endometriosis. I had a look and prolonged brown spotting before period is also a sign of that although I don’t have any other symptoms of endo. Just feeling a bit panicked incase it’s that as I’ll have to have surgery before starting any IVF. I’m praying it’s low progesterone and these pessaries help.

@Loz2467 please don't stress, my pregnancy chart was no different to my non pregnancy charts - the only difference was that it never went down at 14/15/16dpo because I was pregnant! Other than that there were no indications that it was going to be any different. And as @Bubblybub said, it takes an average of 6 months to get pregnant with normal fertility, so taking all your supplements means you're technically starting on month one. If you are out this month it doesn't mean none of it is working - although I know how frustrating that is to hear when you just want it to happen now!
@Louise34mum did your period arrive today?

@Bubblybub @RugbyGirl1 I literally had the best sleep! Haha. That’s why I’m like what on earth! I mean it’s one temp but I’m just so deflated after 15 months of this. Our baby girl would of been 1 next month and here I am bloody crying over stuff because I can’t get pregnant again :(

I saw something about an estrogen surge but I just know in my pregnancy chart from my little boy all my temps were high and steady. I really wish I just confirmed O and packed the thermometer away but it’s too tempting. Xx

@Loz2467 a lot of things can affect the temp. I had a friend who was a midwife and she tried temping and seriously her temps were ALL OVER the place cos she had to sometimes get called out etc!

@Louise34mum when was your AF due? I think i replied to you on another thread. It definitely sounds promising but may be worth waiting a day or two as if it is implantation i think it'll take a little time before the pregnancy hormone will rise enough to register on a test. Fingers crossed for you!

@Loz2467 as @Bubblybub said you're not out until AF shows! Could you have had a bad sleep that may have affected your BBT? @Bubblybub I'll look at the cream, thanks!

@Louise34mum

Could be implantation! Test tmz!