Le BESH est trying to win un petit baybee.

laura that's awful. I'm so sorry. Has something inparticular happened or is it mostly that he is refusing to consider trying again? I don't know what to suggest. Counselling together? Were there other underlying issues that the Mcs have made come to the surface? It's also early days since your miscarriage, and I found this time that comes a month or two afterwards is just as bad as the first week. Try to ride it out for a couple of weeks perhaps without making any hasty decisions and then sit down and have a real proper talk about where to go next.

Oh BESHes, I don't think we're going to survive this, TOM and I. The mcs have caused too much damage, left too much of a wound. We're on the path to splitting. And I don't know what to do. I'm all at once angry and confused and desperate for relief.

Have a luffly trip Dot

I'm off to bed now, got to get up early as I have to go into the office for an hour or two tomorrow [booo!]

Sorry to hear of people's troubles at the moment. dot, how sad about your friend. Poor troubled soul.

frosty, I am so admiring of how you are approaching a difficult situation. What exactly is PGD? I wish I could wave a wand and smooth away the challenges (for you and all BESHies in need).

Well ladies I have to go to bed. We are on a 7am flight tomorrow - urgh. I won't be around much for the next week or so, hope everyone has a splendid New Year :) See you in 2012!

Feeling bit blue so taking a break from the menkul at the mo - but just needed to give Sunny's hand a squeeze. And good advice from that Kat too.

Sunny your attitude humbles me.
cavey sorry to hear about the chundering. 'Specially since it's not due to diffedness! Sounds like a pleasant day. Hope the blood tests show a nice high results!

Your positivity is inspirational Sunny, I'm so sorry you and SSG have had such difficult news.

A rough day in the Cavey household today: I made turkey casserole with the Christmas leftovers last night and within two hours I was chucking it all back up again. For a fleeting moment I thought it could be diffed-ness (laid an egg within the last 3/4 days), but the fact that HWHNN was running to the loo during the night probably rules that out . We've had a very lazy day in front of the tv and are both feeling almost back to normal.

Day 21 blood tests again tomorrow, though I'm 99% certain I have ov'd. Just crossing everything that we dtd at the right times. We managed it 4 times in the last week.

Thanks Kat, your post has cheered me up. Yes, we would need PGD and that's the bit that came as a shock. We've not talked about sperm donation yet. Hopefully won't come to that.

Going for a soak now before a nice dinner with some lovely mates. Things aren't all bad

Oh sunny that must have been a hard bit of information to swallow. Would that mean that when you have IVF, you will also need PGD to choose the non-abnormal sperm? Have you ruled out sperm donation as an option? If you can appeal you should do, it's worth a try. But in the meantime I hope you have a nice anniversary. I think you are doing amazingly well with being dealt such a difficult hand.

I suppose at least now you are informed instead of being in the dark and know what you can do about it sunny.
I'm usually quite positive about things I'm.just struggling at the moment. I think I'll feel better when work has started on our house and we're in a rented house.
What's people up to today? We're watching Star Wars on Blu-ray starting with Episode I. My sister has never seen them!

Thanks Bitey . Didn't know you could appeal so thanks for suggestion. I will investigate!

Lost a bit of my post then! Meant to say appeal may be worth a try, in my old job I used to appeal LHB decisions on continuing care all the time. I know it's different but they are not alway immovable.

Me again, delurking to give sunny a massive slap with a haddock (you know I really mean a grope cuddle) and to say that I think you should appeal the health board's decision as you have different circumstances. It may be worth a try

Bonjour the rest of you, fanks for admiring my fablass welsh northey

I am bitter too. I am fitting the profile perfectly.

We will also have to pay for IVF if we get to the point of needing that. One of the shitty bits about living on this island is there is no NHS. I suspect if we get to that point we will have to acknowledge that our dream of our family is over :(t

Being bitter wont win us a baybee any quicker and I figure it's better to try and be as happy as you can be. As my Gran used to say What's for you won't go by you.....

We could find / save the money. I could sell my car. We have some savings. We can tighten our belts. It's all possible if we make some changes.

In fact I feel much more positive now.

I'm just bitter atm.
Bloody hell, that's a lot of money!

I'm not feeling bitter. I love that my friends are having babies. I'm feeling sad for my lovely lovely husband.

Between £5-9k for a round of IVF/ICSI.

I'm feeling bitter about the ttc right now. Dreadful really, I'm so friggin jealous of everyone...my friend who is 14 weeks and can't stop puking, my friends who had pre-eclampsia and had her baybee weeks early, took everything I have to say congratulations and wish her well! Oh dear.
Have you got an idea of costs sunny? I am in denial clueless about that side of things.
Luffly to see you la. I suppose the only comfort is your body readjusting it's hormones but under the circumstances have a large G&T and shush don't tell anyone but have a

Yes. A massive shock Flames. But thanks for your kind words. We've already had plenty of time to be honest I'm sick of having time. Sitting on a waiting list isn't what I wanted. But that's the way it is unless we can find a few ££££.

Hey LP nice touch on the name! Giving you a BESH fish slap and a quick hair stroke. What a shitty shitty game this is.

oh Sunny - sorry to hear you're dealing with difficult news, but surely it feels a touch better to finally have an explanation? Glad you'll be going out to celebrate your anniversary.

Phi - really like the new name.

Today is difficult...first day of first Droid visit since mc. Sadness.

Je suis lurking a la usualment, ma laydees...La BESH c'est un spot de brightness pour les non-ttc dark days.

Muchos bissous et beacuop les grande G&T.

Crickey Frosty has that come as a shock? So will you be siting on a waiting list unless you go private? I suppose there's plenty of time to decide how you proceed. Enjoy your anniversary.
I've been shopping and have happily provisionally ordered carpets for the house- we've decided to have the one we had in the living room throughout the house. I also got a nice coat - not as nice as the one I lost but still, Happy Popper box set on blu-ray, a nice top and new undies. Gutted to report I cannot replace my favourite boots and Bench top :(

Bloody hell Dot that's a shock. Hope you're ok. Internet forums are a funny thing. We share intimate details about ourselves with people we don't know. But then we also meet some of the loveliest people who we come to rely upon for support when times are tough.

And today my time is tough. We found out that SSG has a chromosomal abnormality which explains why we haven't won a baybee yet. It also reduces our IVF chances. But there is still a chance, which is a Goid Thing. The consultant also told us that the PCT has decreased funding which means no treatment on the NHS until 2013. So we have to make a decision on whether to go private.

Lots to think about. But not today as it's our anniversary & we are going to go out later and have fun.

How sad dot :( I agree you definitely know people from online, in fact we're often more honest on here. Thinking of you and all those affected.

Oh my goodnes dor that's awful :( Also you definitely feel like you "know" people from the internet. I communicate more with people I know from forums, such as the ESH, than with some people that I know in real life.