TTC/Pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 4

Sarlat - That sounds like a real blow, sorry to hear that. I don't know if this helps at all, but a friend of mine recently had surgery to remove very bad endo and I was amazed that they were able to do it all by laparoscopy. She spent minimal time in hospital and found that the recovery time was quite quick. I really hope you are able to get a plan in place soon.

Choccy - It must feel like a relief to have a new plan with Mr S and also to have our hydroxy trail blazers leading the way!

Free - I didn't get any weirdy skin complaints coming off the pred but I wonder if that's something more likely if you're predisposed to problems, i.e. excema etc. I'm lucky enough not to have any problems in that area, although dp and ds are both sufferers.

Digi - Your wibble yesterday sounds a bit scary. Good to hear that they're keeping an eye on you though. I think occasional dizziness is fairly normal in pregnancy isn't it? Hopefully it'll turn out to be "just "one of those things". I had to have a liver scan when I was pregnant with ds as I had raised ALT levels in my bloods (which never developed into anything else and just went away towards the end), so maybe they could give you one to check.

Cornflakes - I'm no doctor, but I'd definitely be having a few drinks if I was in your position. I have to say, wine is always one of the first things I turn to every time I MC. Like Free says, you feel shit so you may as well numb the pain.

Battery - How are you doing?

Well, unsurprisingly the offer on the house was turned down. Dp and I now in talks to see whether we're going to up the offer and to how much.

What a gorgeous day today! We've been out for a brisk and bracing walk on the marshes and dp is going to light the fire. I'm now counting down to the evening when I can have a little glass of wine...

I am another one who didn't know we weren't supposed to drink on the steroids... Mr S didn't mention it and the info leaflet in the packet doesn't mention alcohol at all. If that is right, then oops because I had a very boozy NYE on them!

Holiday to Egypt sounds great, and does the wedding!

free I am sure the ring thing is nothing. But it is completely understandable that we all worry about everything!

I am now on 15 dpo - my longest ever luteal phase. I presume the steroids are to blame as I have had 2 BFNs and don't feel in the least bit preggers.

Are, rather than ate obv... Silly iPhone

Are we meant to stop drinking when on steroids? Obviously we are when pregnant but when I was TTC on 25 I drank as much as normal (no drink about 4 nights a week and between one and four small glasses of wine when I went out. After I mc'd and was tapering the steroids from 40 I think I drank like a fish! I really needed it. You are going to feel crap anyway, might as well anesthetise it. Great you have booked the holiday! Go away and enjoy. And getting married is fab!!! You're going to love it. Huge congratulations.

As for trying again after mc on treatment me s told me to wait two cycles to give the body a rest from the steroids. He will prob tell you to do the same. Not sure how that fits with the wedding but you can be hopeful it works second time round. Tell me, did you see a foetus and hb this time? If so, ate they going to test it? Hopefully it was just one of those unavoidable things and next time it will all work out for you xx

Afternoon everyone...
Its so lovey to read all the positive posts and good scan news..

I need some advice...

I'm weaning off my steroids got about another 3 weeks before it ends, but I wondered if anyone else who has mc and then weaned off can I drink on them now?

Also how long did it take to get back to normal and start ttc again... I'm in a major dilemma I get married at the beginning of june and really don't want to wait till after, but so scared if I ttc again and it works then goes wrong before the wedding...mmmm decisions decisions.... Any advice much appreciated ......

Free -- amazing scan it sounds like it was fab seeing baby moving around...I have the problem with the moon face and the steroids..So good yours are nearly over

Cheerfull --- great scan news how did you find the intrepilids?

Buster--- you must be mad watching one born every minute, I can't bring myself to watch it, I switch over... Can't bear the fact I might never get to that stage.. Plus it scares the pants off me ...

Pico--- brilliant about your bloods, I'm under st helier they're lovely up there.

Duggs---- ooh I love the smiley faces I got two on my positive month... I did two sticks a day I was a bit obsessed..

Stroganoff --- so delighted your scan is all good,,, hope you got lucky at bingo...

Ooh holiday booked Egypt here we come... Not sure about the whole out of shape body thing in a bikini tho..

Hi all,

So sorry to hear of your difficulties Sarlat. I really hope you can work something out. If we can help in any way please do let us know.

How are you feeling now Digi? Could dizzy spells be just something people experience in pregnancy? Good they are keeping an eye on you. Am on the phone and haven't yet got to the stage of researching preeclampsia and it's symptoms. Good to keep a close eye on it though.

For me it is so helpful for you having been through all this first! You did calm me down a bit re the skin problems. I never found out what the ring finger reaction is - eczema, dermatitis...? But have swapped my rings over now to see if that helps. Never get it on the other side or anywhere else but I dud have childhood eczema. Hope you are right and placenta is now doing it's job. Did stogan, comedy or coconut have anything like that too?

Choccy welcome to the hydroxy gang! I am interested to hear what else he said about it. It's a fab drug as far as I am concerned with no real side effects apart from helping me shed a couple of Pred/mc/pregnancy pounds! He initially said up to 16 weeks pregnant to me but last time I saw him he said he had yet to decide when to take me off it.

Gorgeous day out there isn't it! I am spending all day on trains northward but it makes for nice views.

Morning all. It's absolutely glorious here this morning if fecking freezing... !

Well I'm now a member of Team Hydroxy, which is no great surprise having known about free and Ari. I have to take it for at least 6 weeks before ttc, which works ok as having ov'd this week it'll be about 7 weeks' time when I'm back on the rollercoaster.

The joke of it is, bearing in mind how much the Pred costs on private prescription, two months' supply was less than an NHS prescription fee!! :). (Lloyds if anyone's interested...)

Mr S told me loads of interesting info about Hydroxy, which I shan't bore you with. He was also v honest and said he didn't know how long I'd have to take it once pg. Frankly I don't care if I have to take it until I give birth, if it helps me get there! Sounds like we are real trailblazers taking it for first trim mc's though, quite exciting.

Waves to everyone. :)

Hi Sarlat,

I'm so sorry to hear your news, you must be devasted at this setback. It's tough now to take on board but please don't give up. I'm sorry I can't advise as not been in this postition, just struggling to get pregnant and keep it.
But I wish you all the luck and if you ever need any advice I'm sure this thread will be here for a long time to come with great advice.
Good luck x

Evening All

Just an update following all the fantastic advice I had a couple of weeks ago from you lot. I suspected NK cells since TTC for nearly 2 years. I have learnt tonight, (following my HSG last week), that my tubes are damaged internally and externally by scarring and also possibly endo.

I have been very traumatised by the results as didn't suspect any problems of this nature, no past infections, no symptoms etc.

It is likely due to infection but no known cause. Chalmydia antibody results came back as negative etc.

So now I am trying to make sense of all this and plan treatment options which are IVF or sugery to see if any of the damage is repairable. But IVF is looking the more likely option.

Never ever ever ever in a million years did I expect to find myself in this position. I'm sure many others can relate to that. I just feel like I have had trauma after trauma on this road of fertility since my miscarriage nearly 2 years a go.

But these formus are a lifeline. So now onwards to the next chapter. Not going to be persuing the immunology aspect just now.

Good luck to everybody else. x

I had a tiny bit too battery at around 7 weeks. It was after sex and I put it down to cervical erosion. Haven't dared have sex again since! Glad you haven't had any more but hopefully you really dOnt have anything to worry about. Good you have the scan on thurs too.

Can any of you help me with a spot of over-thinking and vet anxiousness? I am feeling pretty schey and tired this evening. Always tired in evenings at mo and also thinking aches are down to Pred tapering, had it last time.

One thing that has freaked me out though is that I've just noticed my fobgr has started to have an allergic reaction to my wedding finger. Thus last happened in my first pregnancy of the year and retrospectively in my over thinking state I have attributed that to a sign of my immune system attacking the body in reaction to the baby, and also attacking the baby of course. so in my over active mind I am now thinking the baby is started to be attacked again now too, now am only on 15mg of Pred.

You are right battery but I know its easy to swing the other way as well and worry and worry. You are perfectly entitled to get a scan so make sure u do if u want it earlier than thurs.
Saying all that I'm sure its nothing. When preg with my dd i had the same thing at roughly 8 weeks, had a scan and all fine, no reason giving for the coloured cm.
As for me, still on the pred. No side effects so far but my work trousers felt a little tighter last night so seems I put on a little weight this week! Af due Mon/tues so will prob test on Sunday. Which will be about 13 dpo.
Sorry for not doing a longer post but getting ready for early dinner out. Saying that dh has just text to say he has a cow down so will prob be a hr late! Always when we've plans!
WaVES X X

I have spoken to my gp who is not worried, and have had no more so am clinging to that. Worrying won't change anything so I am going with it for now. Am glad I haven't cancelled my scan for Thursday !

battery yes I'm echoing iggi here - brown-streaked cm (as you know) can be perfectly ok, but for your own peace of mind get it checked out sooner rather than later! Fingers crossed all is ok.

Battery phone your epu. I'm not saying that because I think it's a terrible sign and is bad news (I don't, I think it's a random discharge) BUT you will drive yourself mad wondering at home.

battery I hope things not getting any worse. if it does get yourself checked out for your peace of mind. fingers crosses all is fine. x

pico I had lots of pains in my first pregnancy - I ended up in A+E but it just turned out to be implantation. Worried me sick, i was in agony.

I am panicking. Just been to the loo - brown streaked cm. Crap. I hope this is not the begining of the end :(

If I thought doing a fertility dance would help, I'd learn the steps! :) Great idea though snoopy :) Well my OH asked Mr S the same question, if he should be taking anything (this was back last Sept when we first saw Mr S). Mr S said the same as for your DH, and also suggested Co-Q10. So I offered to let OH take my Co-Q10 and I'd get him additional selenium and zinc tablets, and the general answer was along the lines of he couldn't be bothered to take more supplements (he only takes a multivit and cod liver oil!!). Men, can't live with 'em, can't live with 'em .

Well I'm not due to OV for at least another 10 days, so trying to forget about the whole thing for the moment. Waiting impatiently for someone else on the thread to get a sticky BFP though!!

X posts with pico glad your ok. Put your feet up and enjoy your weekend. x

Come on girls someone's got to get a BFP this month!! feel like doing a fertility dance or something to drum up the God of sticky beans. I feel out of control with all this just waiting some miraculous implantation. I can't wait to see if this whole thing will just work for me.

Who's left in this month?: me (doubtful), kittens, PQ, hopeful Have I missed anyone?

did someone mention something called Fertilman on here the other day? I asked Dr S if DH should be taking anything and he said Selenium and Zinc wouldn't be a bad idea. We were talking about it last night and he said get me some of the vits and he also said that he'll stop drinking for the next few months.....damn, that made me feel really guilty that I'm still having a glass in evening. It's the only bloody vice I have and the lovely Dr did say it was ok. He's so disciplined my husband. He's the sort who puts his fork down when full. Unlike me! No will power whatsoever..

st heliers just called on my blood test and they are happy the pains arnt someting serious, my levels went from 2k to 6k in 48 hrs. could be right about the wind,mines really bad but i think i pulled something, i felt the exact pain again when i got off the sofa again yesterday and it kept coming back for the rest of the day but it included a bit of my upper inner thigh muscle as wel.
what a relief ! im going to enjoy my weekend , im sick of being stressed out, deep breath , calm..

Just realised digi u will be joining me in 3rd tri in 3 days woo hoo, its been lonely here cant wait to have a chum !! x

First time I have ever done this so appologies if I have fluffed anything up !! Todays list :-
Friday 13th jan
BFP
3rd Trimester
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 31+6 Due 10/03/12 next scan 10/02/2012

2nd Trimester
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 26+4 Due 16/04/12 MW appt 25/01
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks 23+2
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 ? 20+6 due 26/5/12
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 20+3 Next scan March
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3 - 19+6 next scan?

1st Trimester
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. MC 1st cycle. BFP#1 12+3 Next scan?
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC#1/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 12+1 Next Scan ?
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 BFP cycle 3. 8+6 Scan ?
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2, BFP cycle2, 8+4, Next scan 23/01/12
picolina123 - V High nkc, pred cycle 1

TTC
Waiting to test
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, #3, testing 10/11th ish
eurochick - High NKC, superovulation cycle 1, pred cycle 1, period due 13thish. Maybe.
Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2
PQ77 - V High NKC TTC #2 (BFP cycle one but mc)

Waiting to ovulate
buster76 - V High NKC, Factor V Leiden
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2

WTTC
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - awaiting hysteroscopy, then superovulation cycle3
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2
ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1, review w/Dr S 14 Jan.
Lemonsherbet - awaiting results
Breezyweezy - V High NKC - TTC#1 from January
AandRmum - High NKC
Suemays - High NKC, TTC #2
Cornflakes30 - V High NKC, underactive thyroid

afternoon ladies :)
well I am EVENTUALLY back from the hospital, crikey they are soooo disorganised in my local but hey ho we are fine so thats all the matters.

Baby is fine, HUGE feet like daddy but fine. the fluid is still raised however so, although they are not to concerned they want me to have another scan to check fluid levels and a growth scan in 4 weeks so next scan for me is 10th feb im fine with this though as didnt expect another one. They are also testing me for sugar diabetes as they just want to check that I am OK as this could apparently be a reason for the high fluid??? i am completely clueless to this just know im not allowed anything to eat after midnight on monday so i can have the test at 9am on tues, ill be STARVING!!!!
Finally my consultant said just keep an eye out for things...Like what I said..er like your waters breaking !!!!! WHAT???????? Panic did set in but she said they tell people this at any stage of pregnacy and also to look out for back pains, lack of movemet from baby or bleeding so yeah pretty much the standard stuff that everyone needs to look out for at this stgae of pregnacy I am just an irrational wreck.

so a nice chilled afternoon for me and then off to the bingo with SIL tonight, should be fun given last time we went we won £240 !! keep everything crossed for me ha ha !!

Hope everyone is having a nice dayxx

Forgot to say, can someone put me on the waiting to ovulate list as I am on CD6 today so should be OVing in the next week hopefully.
Has anyone TTC had any FSH testing done recently? Dr S suggested I get it done again at my GP surgery and it has gone up in over a year so I am a bit concerned now. It was 4.9 a year ago and it has now risen to 11.1. Does anyone know if this is reason to be concerned with my egg reserve????