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TTC/Pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 4

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digitalgirl · 19/12/2011 11:28

A positive thread for all those diagnosed with High or Very High NK Cells and looking to start TTC or already pregnant on Prednisolone and/or Intralipid treatment.

Newcomers very much welcome!

Part 3 here

Part 2 here

Part 1 here

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duggs1976 · 17/01/2012 22:31

fellow super ovulators.. I've kicked this thread off see link below.. not sure if I've done it correctly..?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/a1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation#29549433

duggs1976 · 17/01/2012 19:47

Ohh ladies. . . What an idea free* shall we start a super ov thread guys? Of course we are hoping to migrate out of it soon to be solely on this one . . But super ov is just about getting preggers quicker with more eggs and accurate timing.

How do we start? I'm on iPhone. Hideous day starting end ending with passport and identity office at Victoria. Looks like I have to go to Vegas on 26 jan until 29 which means missing the meet up on south bank - but is my job so we will have to do another in feb or march and give a run down Sad

I will give spreadsheet a go, look at free q on intraplids days and happy b day to euro. I want some more super ov stats. I don't want to bugger about! Be back when I'm home. X

batteryhen · 17/01/2012 19:31

Hello everyone :)

Just letting you all know I am still here, lurking and reading but not getting much chance to post. I have had no more brown cm, and have had somems so thats good, but again there are days when I don't feel pregnant at all ...which freaks me out :(

duggs can I just say you absolutely deserve a bfp...you are so focused and determined...I really hope it happens soon xx
ari I know exactly what you mean about people getting pregnant. A girl at work ahd just announced her twin pregnancy - and all I could think was 'how lucky to be having twins...' and I am pg myself for gods sake! The mind is not a sensible thing. And to make me even worse - she didn't have an easy time - her dh had a vasectomy years ago so they had to go private and have the old needle and syringe into the balls treatment. I am really pleased for her though!!

I would post more but laptop is playing up. I have a scan at epau on thursday so we will see what is occuring :) I hope everyone esle is ok. Happy birthday euro. It was mine yesterday - I feel old!!

igggi · 17/01/2012 17:53

Happy Birthday Euro, I am sure you are going to have a good year!

digitalgirl · 17/01/2012 17:11

Happy Birthday euro sorry you had to scrub the carpet this morning!

stogan hope you're feeling better after the GTT and hope DH is suitably apologetic for Not Thinking.

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lemonsherbet · 17/01/2012 16:37

Just wanted to wish euro a happy birthday.

Will wave hello. Can I also say I am a twilight virgin. Never seen the film or read the book. I am starting to think need to experience it in order to stay on the thread :-)

freelancegirl · 17/01/2012 13:50

Hi all, just beginning the long train journey home do bound to be doing a lot if lurking.

Sorry you are feeling low Ari, it's bound to happen after all you have been through. People are having children all over the world as we speak and will continue to do so, so I guess it would be more comforting for our minds to take it as given that other people are always going to be having babies. It's funny as I don't yet have a child of my own but I am never upset by other people having children. I do marvel at how easy it can be for some people!

But you never know, Ari, there might have been people marvelling at how easily you had DD! Of course i dont know if you did have DD easily, and neither do we know if other people have had difficulties too and we are just not aware of them. I guess it's harder for those of us without a child to understand and going through miscarriages is awful, but try not to worry about the age gap thing. Am sure DD will love a little brother or sister whatever age. But I hope you feel better soon. Don't know about the teacher but if I was the one having to tell the world I was having twins I might be smiling outside but on the inside I would be quietly crapping myself :)

Happy birthday euro, well of sorts. Annoying about the heavy period, remember it can really take it out if you so try to relax abd look after yourself if you can.

Stogan hope dh is being nicer to you. Do you work together?

My goodness what a lot of super ovulation there is going around at the moment! I was wondering whether there were people our there who were on it who don't actually have nk cells or suffer from rmc. I do know one actually. It might even be worth starting a whole super ovulation thread!

No real news from me, apart from my rather frequent 'something must have gone wrong' mentalling moments. I did buy a couple of maternity crop trousers yesterday for my holiday, very cheap and in the sale. Still not sure about when people are officially counted as 2nd trimester, some sources say end of the 13th week. I guess it dorsnt really matter. Just arranging my bext scan - Friday 27th Jan followed (presuming it's alive...) by an extra intralipids.

snoopygirl · 17/01/2012 11:59

Thanks ari that's true. I spose I've been counting from the actual ov line date and wasn't sure whether to count from faint one or not. Pred has made me thick as you can see! Just have to wait and see I spose.
I have dug out the google link, (hope it works) so can check on histories of others but think it needs updating a fair bit.

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtEN_z1FdjUMdHd6c0xCd2JRd3hXVmtTZXROYVE1OGc#gid=0

Arianrhod · 17/01/2012 11:27

snoopy well if you take OV as happening after your second strong line on the 4th, then that makes you approximately 13dpo or possibly 12dpo, if you recall that you OV anywhere within something like 12 to 36 hours after a pos opk, so you may have only ovulated on the 5th or so. And many people don't get pos pg tests until 14dpo or later ... soooooo ... I'd say you're still in with a chance. Fingers crossed!

snoopygirl · 17/01/2012 11:21

ari I don't really know didn't have the smiley face stick this time. I had a faint ov line 29th Dec running throu to strong line on 3/4th jan. CD26 today which is when af came last month

Stogan · 17/01/2012 11:18

Thanks again ari getting my blood taken in 5 mins hopefully and touch wood the nausea seems to have subsided so am going to ask about my nose bleeds while I tuck in to my hospital toast and hot choc !! X

Arianrhod · 17/01/2012 11:14

Happy birthday euro!! Just think, if your day started out like that, then it can only get better :)

snoopy how many dpo are you now? Ain't no fat lady singing yet, so you're still in with a chance :)

stogan you moan all you like, you're entitled to! Is there nothing the hospital can give you to make you feel a bit better, at least reduce the headache or the nausea? Tell one of the nurses how rough you feel, they may be able to help. And I quite like the idea of your mum wanting to take a more physical approach with your DH - sometimes I think that's the only thing that might get through!!

Stogan · 17/01/2012 11:05

Thanks snoopy still time for that BFP Hunni everything crossed for you xx

Stogan · 17/01/2012 11:04

Thanks ari massive hugs to u too Hunni.
I no what u mean, lots of my friends seemed to get pg when I was experiencing my first 2 losses and it never bothered me too much but then one of my close friends at work got PG when we were having a break from ttc for our wedding and I was devastated !! I wonder why some peoples news affects us more than others?

My mam is now on the rampage and wants to bash DHs head against a wall ! Probs not the best solution but she may have more success getting thru to him than me !!

I feel so rough sitting here in hospital, sick as a dog, headache and nose keeps bleedi ng sorry to be such a moany whine today girls Sad

snoopygirl · 17/01/2012 11:04

x posts with euro Happy Birthday and hope your day gets better. x

forgot to say BFN again this morning but absolutley no sign of AF.

snoopygirl · 17/01/2012 11:00

Morning

ari sorry your feeling down, you just feel like when will it be my turn, when world just carries on without you.... I don't normally have any reaction apart from being a bit envious about others pregnancies but the other day found out a lady down school is 14 weeks and I said congratulations and the words stuck in my throat, how embarrasssing. Not as tough as I think sometimes. I understand too about your daughter. My son turned 6 last week and i just so want to see his little face when i tell him Mummy is having a baby. I feel like I've let him down somehow.

stogan I think men are just programmed like that! But ari is right about picturing him with baggy eyes when baby comes and maybe a big splodge of babyfood slung at him just for good measure!!

eurochick · 17/01/2012 10:59

hopeful that is good news. That's all I will say for now!

Cinny welcome. We are a friendly lot on this thread. I have found it great to have so many knowledgeable people to talk about this with. (That's a horrible sentence but you know what I mean!)

Stogan sometimes they just don't get it do they?

Arian it's odd how some things affect us and some don't, isn't it. Some people's pregnancies i am fine with. Others, I feel nothing but jealousy.

I'm a bit down today too. It's my birthday and I feel like time is ticking by. I'm also having a particularly vile heavy period (and spent the early part of this morning scrubbing the bedroom carpet as I somehow manaaged to get blood on it, not the way I really wanted to start my birthday). A year ago today was the end of our first proper cycle of trying - it ended with AF arriving on my birthday. Now we are on cycle 15 with 14 disappointments behind us. On a more practical level, the hospital where I will be having IVF has asked me to come in for an internal scan tomorrow. If my period doesn't ease up a bit, that room is going to look like an abbatoir... Ick.

Arianrhod · 17/01/2012 10:48

stogan sorry crossed posts with you. You know, sometimes I think men just don't get it. I told my OH when I got to work about my DD's teacher and his only comment was "so there will be a replacement teacher for a few months then, hope she's ok". Nothing in any kind of commiseration, of all people I expected him to understand how I was feeling. I think it's genetic, perhaps, some guys just really don't understand. Virtual hugs to you, just comfort yourself with the thought of the sleepless nights he will also be having once your baby is born Grin

Arianrhod · 17/01/2012 10:42

Welcome cinny (ok, so I'm last, but boy this thread moves fast! :) ), and so sorry for your losses.

And a whispered for you hopeful, I truly do understand your caution and while yes, some of us may have not had a successful pg first try on the treatment, but many others have! So statistically you're in with a heck of a good chance, and I'm rooting for you.

Twilight I've never heard of, so you ladies don't need to be embarrassed on my behalf Grin

Cyclogest ... well I was definitely one using the tradesman's entrance, and never had any problems with it. Not the most pleasant thing in the world to do, no, but also nowhere near as bad as I had thought it might be. If I am ever in the happy position of needing to use Cyclogest again, I will certainly be knocking on that tradesman's door again.

Well I'm a bit miserable today. Bizarrely of all the things, it's finding out that my DD's lovely teacher is pg with twins, expecting them in June, one month before I would have been due. She knew about the last pg (or non-pg, as I think of it now) as DD told the whole world, and was incredibly sympathetic about it as she had also heard that I'd already lost 3 before it. She would have known she was pg at the time she was talking to me about mine. I wish her all the happiness in the world, she really is lovely, but it's just made me feel even more that the whole world seems to be able to successfully carry babies while I can't. I know obviously that the whole world can't, but it's just how I feel right now. Guy who sits across the desk from me at work, his wife had her first baby just before Christmas but that didn't bother me too much. But for some reason this news this morning has just really made me miserable. All the mums in my DD's class are excitedly talking about it, and I'm trying to be upbeat about it but inside I just feel like crying. I know all the things Mr S found wrong with me, and yes I'm being treated for it all now, but still it feels like I'm a complete failure. I know you will all know how I'm feeling, trying hard not to feel sorry for myself and reminding myself I have a beautiful 5 year old, but she's growing up so fast and it all just seems so - well I hate to say the "unfair" word, since no-one ever said life was fair, but you know what I mean.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, it's just making me feel so very blue today. Normal service will be resumed shortly.

/waves to everyone

Stogan · 17/01/2012 10:00

Sat here in hospital after having drinking my lovely glucose drink and very upset ! Thought I was only having bloods but they decided to do full GTT which is fine by me so I text DH to say I wouldn't be going into the office and he said "oh well u need to make a call about these payments an then u can update the spreadsheet notes at home" then 5 mins later sent me a text saying "hope u are ok?" what a mindless prick I married !! Feel like crap now Sad

duggs1976 · 16/01/2012 22:32

hey guys, waves..
cinni welcome.. you ar ein good company here as the girls said.
Super ovulation...I do ovulate but Dr S found mild PCOS back in November (my first round of super ov). I started with dr s in sep, oct - both natural cycle attempts. I was given 2.5mg letrozole.. but got one large dominat follicle ...too large. Then Dec he upped me to 5mg and gave me metformin. I did get 3 follies but no BFP.

Am now waiting for my hysteroscopy investigative op next Monday at St mary's and (all things being well) I will start up again my super ov in Feb.

Interesting that you are on super ov so at least dr s can see how you are responding. That is why I think kittens and snoopy and sue will like it as just gives more info on what is happening throughout the month, rather than a big fat BFN at the end which is so soul destroying month after month, esp on top of the mc. (hope you don't need it but ykwim)

Anyway, it sounds like dr S has a plan for you and gond has a good response.
Can I ask, has your partner been tested, would IUI be any help?

I am planning a super ov in Feb, then IUI in march and April and IVF + CGH in may I reckon if I need to go that far. I will throw myself onto the Paddinton train tracks if I don't get a BFP this side of June.. we all must be preggers by June.

Anyway, is this your first baby? It is mine..(the thought of going through this a second time is hideous which is why the IVF + CGH appeals as they can find competent embroys and freeze them, so am VVV tempted to do that and the defrost one for the 2nd. (if I got that far) But 3 weeks with a 10 week old kitten who climbs the curtains, my legs, gets in the dishwasher and terrorises our other cat , has somewhat put me off the "caring for others" area.

do keep us posted. Smile

ChoccyPud · 16/01/2012 21:11

I'll come out as having rather enjoyed the Twilight books... Just to keep PQ and free company in our collective embarrassment you understand... Blush Anyway.

Hello cinny and welcome. I actually cried when I found this thread and read the various stories, and have no idea how I'd have got through the last few months without the lovely ladies here. As always sorry you have found yourself here, but I'm sure you'll find it a source of strength and support and random information.

hopeful well done! On to the next step. Are you on intralipids too? Sorry, it's hard to keep up with everyone's details now. Re cyclogest - I went with the tradesman's when I was pg. Seemed less messy. Only concern of course (tmi alert) is the chance of the Pred-fired wind making you lose it again... Enjoy! Grin

Fingers crossed for those testing this week, let's have some more good news!

freelancegirl · 16/01/2012 20:46

I know PQ I thought about whether to out you. I mean - discharge, wombs, death, bleeding, sex etc we can do on here, but Twilight...? I decided to just go for it and let us be judged Grin I will see if I can meet you later in the week to swap for the next instalment.

On the subject of all the things we can talk about here - a few people have taken the 'back option' with the Cyclogest Hopeful and said that has worked well for them. I am not sure why I never veered in that direction. With the front option, you do get a bit of fall out throughout the day and the smell is not offensive whatsoever, very mild really, but due to nausea I now have a real aversion to it. You know how after you've felt nauseous when pregnant you start to hate the smell or taste of certain things? Well, Cyclogest is now an arch enemy of my olfactory experience. Although to be fair I haven't been tasting it :)

I don't know much about Super Ov Cinny but Digi is heavily pregnant and didn't need to go down that route in the end. SHe looked into it a lot though and others here also know a lot about it so I am sure someone can help.

Kittens, PQ, there are a lot of people due to test again in the next few days I think.

Coconutfeet · 16/01/2012 20:42

Welcome to Cinny. I remember I was almost in tears of relief when I discovered this thread. It was such a huge weight off my shoulders actually being able to chat to people who knew how I felt.

Hopeful - Well done. Lovely news. Baby steps and all that.

Digi - Thanks for sorting out the list. I don't know why but I'm always a bit scared to touch it in case I mess it it up. I must stop being so silly.

I'm off to bed. Have a big observation tomorrow and have been going a bit goggle-eyed going through my lesson plan to make sure I've covered everything.

cinny76 · 16/01/2012 19:31

Thank you all for the warm welcome.

hopeful well done on the first step. I hope it all progresses well.

digi I am day 10po. Negative pg test. I didn't super ov this month, but I was advised to still do the trigger shot for the one follicle my body made on its own. I started on 5mg of Letrozole, 2nd cycle 7.5 and this cycle, 5mg and Gonal F injections. Next cycle will be Gonal F injections only. Are you doing Super OV?