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Mrsmellow Good news that the cycles are sorting themselves out. I think that you're supposed to count from your first day of proper flow as you say, but I'm no expert as I've only had 1 AF since coming off the pill and so far and that was decidedly weird - I had 2 days on, 1 day off, then another 2 days on!

Hey there,
Gosh cave that sounds like fun - fingers crossed successful too!

Well, my period arrived today (well sort of yesterday with cramps and spotting, but I think you're meant to count from proper flow?) - which is CD35 -which I know to some is quite long, but actually all my cycles post pill have been 42-45 days, so I'm very foolishly excited and optimistic that this means that things might be settling down ignoring the polycystic ovaries on scan
Denial - not just a river in Africa...

Evening Prickly, yes in fact we have been busy dtd . I got a positive on my cheapy OPK yesterday and the CBFM kicked in this morning with a peak reading. We dtd Friday, yesterday and today and, if need be, DH will come home tomorrow night so we can get one more in.

Fingers crossed

Its all gone very quiet, is everybody off baby dancing?

Hey josie looking at it from both points of view its probably very hard for both of you. Your friend is going through the most amazing thing and you are going through something very difficult, i think you may both have lost your way a bit.
In her eyes her pregnancy may be difficult and she is wanting support from a friend and your finding it hard because you would give anything to be in that situation. Im sure she doesn't want to upset you as you don't her but because you both a little sensitive at the minute your clashing. i do think meeting up and talking to her is a great idea being honest with her about how hard it is but also realizing that what she is going through is hard for different reasons.
i hope you can work it out

Well i don't know if i'm coming or going i went to to the doctor today as my moods have been just awful since i came off the pill and i was prescribed affex (Prozac). i had been having uncontrollable mood swings and they were getting worse. i was like this as a teen but put it down to being a teen and had been on the pill since 16.
He has advised me to stop ttc till its all settled and sorted ie drugs and dosage ect
Im scared about being on drugs, i barely take pills for a headache.
Going to spend the weekend with my dad and see some old friends to take my mind off it.

Josie: I really feel for you. I think that, like most people who have never had to deal with infertility, your friend does not realise how painful it can be. Maybe, in a sort of twisted way, she is trying to make you feel better by complaining about being pg instead of being all excited and happy about it in front of you. I don't know if that is the case but I can totally relate to how you are feeling. For me, the worse is when friends try to reassure me by telling me that "it will happen" and all manner of other cliches, as well-meaning as they are. Maybe you need to take some time out to gather your thoughts and have an honest chat with her about how hard you're finding IVF and how you need her support and understanding.

Raspberry: I hope you're feeling a bit better and I'm so sorry about AF...it sucks, there's no other way of describing it. Hope you've treated yourself to some chocolate and some .

I had my second IUI this morning and it was absolutely horrendous. The first one was bad enough but this one took the biscuit! I was in agony as the nurse kept fiddling with the speculum for bloody ages as she could not find the angle...she told me, once again, that my cervix is way off balance and that my anatomy is "twisted". Thanks! (I retorted). To make matters worse, they told me that this is the last go we will get as funding will be stopped on March 31st and then nobody knows what will happen. I insisted that I wanted a laparoscopy because I have a feeling that something is not right and she said she would speak to the consultant and check if I could also have a hysteroscopy to see what's going on with my uterus .

I am trying to keep my spirits up but I am not very hopeful...I think I will start seriously looking into doing IVF privately. It's going to be a big expense but the way it's looking at the minute, it looks like it might be the only available option for us.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Can I have a bit of a rant please, sorry, I know it's a childish subject

I had a text row with my (only) friend last night. She's pg and being a bit insensitive, making comments about how difficult it's going to be for her having a baby and basically making a mountain out of a molehill, as she always has. She was complaining about trivial things again yesterday so I said it's not forever and it's better than IVF so she said we were drifting apart (which is true because we don't have much in common anymore) and that we need to support each other. I agreed but said it was hard to be sympathetic when I'm in the position I'm in, and she's got what I so desperately want. She said she doesn't want my sympathy (despite only ever complaining to me) and that her life hasn't been easy and neither has her pregnancy (let's be honest. She had a few weeks of morning sickness months ago, that's it). I've left it at that because I was going to say something I regretted. Anyway, I just want her to be a bit more sensitive to what I'm going through, and perhaps not complain quite so much about something that is really a blessing. She needs to realise how lucky she is

Hi Everyone,

I am completely new to mumsnet and only just started TTC. My only issue is I can't take tablets and can't find anything that I can take in a liquid or chewable format. Only came off the injection 2 weeks ago so not panicking just yet but I do want to get organised!

Hello to all the newbies! I completely missed out on the surge of posts because my friend had her baby yesterday so I was too busy being excited for her to come here! It is so pudgy and cute and cuddly, I'm trying very hard to not be jealous, but, well you all know how I feel!

Made cupcakes and drank a bottle glass of Pinot last night to cheer self up. I'm thinking if my friend's baby has to have a birthday on the 29th of Feb, the only crappier day to have a birthday is Christmas, so March will be the month for us!

I put my DH on a course of 'alternative stimulation', as there's lots of evidence that regular ejaculation improves sperm quality and quantity, and 5 days abstinence causes noticeable problems. As I'm not up for SWI/FF that often, particularly over AF and the week leading up to ov, we came up with a different solution. Works well so far, we make sure we do something together every 2-3 days, with SWI at the right time, and any other time just what we feel like doing. I realise not everyone is comfortable with this sort of thing, but it's an option it took me a surprisingly long time to realise was there!

So sorry about AF raspberry, your time will come. Try and spoil yourself a little to take the edge off the disappointment and sadness.

I don't really have much to report here, I'm in my 2ww and bored of it. No symptoms, and not much hope. AF due around the 8-11th. I really want a follow up consultation with my Dr after my HSG, as I'm not sure if our chances are low enough to put us forward for IVF. He said at the last appt "If all is clear, we'll leave you try longer. If not, we'll refer you to IVF." Well, we were 50% clear, so?

Just a quick post to say sorry to Raspberry, hello to newbies [waves] and Amazeballs we had that problem and as much as we discussed it and resolved to change things, life does get in the way unfortunately. It was me wanting it, but it didn't even occur to DH that we might have sex so we did things like going out for a meal and dressing up all fancy, and then on the ruder side, a visit or two to ann summers provided some encouragement

I Go away for 24 hours and miss another posting party.
Hello all newbies.

Well i have also convinced myself im pg as i have woke up feeling sick the last 2 days (even though its to early for that) and iv been getting tingly pains in my ovaries.

Im never going to get pg if our sex life doesn't improve... i worked it out and since september we have had sex 12 times.....

i didnt think we were that couple that didnt do it. Things just seem to get in the way apart from around ov time. DP is working way more (farmer) so he is always so tired. its not that we dont want to we just dont iyswim.
how can i get more i the mood and get him in the mood?

oh on the up side i think dp has decided we are allowed to carry on ttc while wedding planning. im so stressed out i dont know if its a good time to get pg even though i was utterly gutted when he said we should stop.

So sorry raspberry :( xxx

Oh raspberry I'm sorry. I know how you feel, it's so crushing. Let yourself have a little mope and cry, but try to pick yourself back up fairly soon. The sadness becomes all encompassing otherwise.

Lots of and chocolate for you.

Waves to all newbies!! Lovely to have you on here!

Pretty sure AF is coming, here's to March let's hope it's our month!! :)!

Loads of new people, lovely! I ate the brownies, but brought some home-made hazelnut and chocolate cookies to replace. This is not part of the low-GI diet that apparently I should be following for my PCO to get better (how depressing - nerner you can't get pregnant and now you have to give up all sweet comforting food... )
hopingsoon I've just been diagnosed with PCOS and am hoping to persuade my gynae to give me some clomid - she said in a rather blasé tone - 'why don't' you just keep trying for a while' (I'm pretty convinced I'm not ovulating - certainly nothing to the contrary to persuade me... ) I've got a couple of hectic months and DH is working away at potentially 'fertile' times so I'm going to wait until after Easter to go and try to persuade her... fingers crossed something miraculous happens in the meantime!
And I am so with the people green with envy at the newborn babies surrounding us... my goodness, where do they all come from???

Anyway, here's hoping for bfps all round!

So many new people! Hello all :)

Wow! A sudden rush of newbies!

Welcome all

Hello HopingSoon I know just what you mean. So many babies/pregnancies in my workplace at the moment (Well, not actually babies working...) And facebook just awash with newbaby pics! They should have a self-pity button on here too.

All the best for you stasi for a BFP coming up! And thanks for the chocolate brownies, now how very thoughtful of you...

As you've got a group of newbies, seems like this might be a good time to re-join. I was here briefly a few months ago, but dropped off the thread with other things happening.

I've been trying now since Sept 2010, on cycle 21 now. DH has under performing, but not terrible swimmers, and I've just been shown to have a blocked tube on a HSG earlier this month. Fingers crossed we'll get a post HSG clean tube BFP, but I'm only 3 or 5DPO just now.

I love to read and chat on the threads, though just now I have RSI in my hand so my posts are limited a bit. Will be reading through to catch up on your latest news though.

Hi everyone, hope it's ok for me to join this thread too!!
SecretSparkle we were on the same thread but yeah most ppl have left as they got their BFP.

I'm 31, been TTC for 12 months now. Had a chemical pregnancy last August and nothing since. Had tests done, dr says I have PCOS, husband had a low sperm count but took lots of vitamins and last test showed he is ok now!! So just me to sort out. On second round of clomid, so keeping fingers crossed. It really gets to me some days like today. All my friends have babies or are pregnant and I just feel sorry for me and DP.
I'm sure I'll be happy again tomorrow :)

Hello secretsparkle - lovely to see you! I'm 33 and just waiting around for that BFP too, though having to postpone ttc for a couple of months because of work trips. No probs as far as I know, just taking some time... I don't message all the time but love to see what everyone's up to and I think it's really heartening to have people to chat to rather than boring everyone with the TTC obsession!