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TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 3

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freelancegirl · 22/11/2011 16:20

For those who are TTC/pregnant undergoing immunotherapy treatment. Current list as it stands, do feel free to come and join us, it's moving quickly round here!:

Tuesday 22nd November

TTC
Waiting to test
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, will be Ist try with Pred, Intralipids on bfp Testing from 21/11
Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/testing 29 Nov -2 Dec depending on my resolve.
Waiting to ovulate
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 3 Dec (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - Superovulation cycle1
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2.
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ ov 25th-26th Nov/ 4th cycle of pred
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/ov expected 28-30 Nov.
BFPSeeker

BFP
2nd Trimester
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 24+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -19+1 Due 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks ? 16+1 next scan 14/12
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 13+3 due 26/5/12 next scan 12/12
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 12+6 anomaly scan Jan

1st Trimester
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 11+4 next scan 28/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 8+1 Due 01/07/12. Scan 25/11
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. MC 1st cycle. LMP18/10 - 4+6 - Scan 3/12
Arianhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 BFP 2nd pred cycle LMP19/10. 4+5 Scan 7/12
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). LMP17/10(Ov'd 3rd Nov) 4+5 Scan 6/12.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1 BFP 4th Pred cycle LMP20/10 4+4. Scan 3/12.

OP posts:
lemonsherbet · 04/12/2011 22:02

Can I ask for some hand holding. My SIL has just announced her pregnancy and it is when my 3rd miscarried baby would be due. Am struggling a bit.

batteryhen · 04/12/2011 21:27

It's sues :) - not changed the list as I don't want to mess up xx

batteryhen · 04/12/2011 21:23

Hello All,

Choccy I hope you are doing ok. The shock that comes after mc is awful so, I hope you are getting lots of cuddles and love xx
ari I want to say 'you never know etc' but sometimes you do know your own body, and someone being hopeful and helpful is not what you want, but I hope you get some answers from Mr S ( I hope that makes sense)
scooter Glad to see you cak too, nice and gentle is the way forward xx
duggs sorry about AF but next month for you my girl! :)

Reading the stories about peoples mc is sad. Makes me well up.

My last one in June (3rd one) was at 12 weeks. I had had scans at 6, 8 ,10 and then went for my nuchal at 12. The wierd thing was I had been hearing the hb on a doppler but the 2 previous days before the scan I hadn't heard it. When I got on the couch - I remember dp telling the sonographer this. When the scan came up ( the tv is on the wall in front of the couch) I asked if there was a hb and the sonographer shook her head sadly. She had to get another dr to confirm and then it hit me and I howled like I had had my heart ripped out. DP held me up whilst I sobbed into his neck :( The poor sonographer started to cry too.

Afterwards dp said the hardest thing was he could see the liitle chubby cheeks and lips :(

Sorry about that - sometimes you just have to write things down I think. My dd was new years eve. Great.

Well we need some good news - who is testing next? Oh... I can't check the list as I can't scroll back but is it me?? !

Coconutfeet · 04/12/2011 21:04

Just back from a weekend away and so sorry to read your news Choccy. It sounds like your dh is brilliant and I really hope you're able to support each other at the moment.

Scooter - Good to see you back again. I really hope the physical side at least is over for you quickly.

Ari - Sorry it's not looking good for you too. You've had an instinct all along that it wasn't right, but I was so hoping you were wrong.

I feel so angry on behalf of all of you. It's just so bloody unfair that you're going through this. God knows it's so hard to pick yourself up and put yourself through it again and again. Big hugs to the three of you.

Free - Good news about your scan. I imagine this next week is going to be a testing one for you, given your history. Hope the time till the next scan passes quickly.

It's looking unlikely that I'll make it on Tuesday but can someone PM me anyway, just in case please.

Waves to everyone else!

ChoccyPud · 04/12/2011 20:24

Ari that has to be the right decision overall. Worst case as you say he can check there's nothing left, if you do turn out to be right. It was an awful shock for me to see nothing, I was obviously more hopeful than I'd realised, but in retrospect, I'm hugely relieved it's done and gone.

Tuesday's meet has come at the perfect time for me I think. Not sure I'll get through it without having an embarrassing meltdown though so you've been warned!!

Breezy thought of you just now - there was a doll's house on Antiques Roadshow worth £2500 odd! The owner's daughter had put a Christmas stocking up in one of the rooms, which was very sweet.

Scooter I've never seen a hb, or even a potentially living bean, best I've had was a sac with nothing yet visible at 6wks. I seem to tend to not implant and/or the highly efficient nkcs zap them by 5/6 weeks though I must say that dh keeps reminding me that we mustn't set too much by previous mc's as this was the first on the treatment... I can't imagine how good it must be to see a potential life there and then how utterly awful it must be to then lose it. I do hope the outward ongoing reminder of the bleeding ends soon for you, I find being able to stop using horrible pads is a milestone. You can't help but feel them and it's right in front of you every time you go to the loo. Hateful. hugs

Arianrhod · 04/12/2011 19:46

Just a very quickie because apparently I'm supposed to be making something to eat (sigh .. hate cooking) .. choccy I've thought all day and decided you're right, wise woman. Yes I am 100% certain I'm miscarrying and it's just the progesterone supplements that are delaying the actual bleeding, but on the very slim chance that somehow I've got it all wrong (and the hCG drop is too - yes, I know, can't be) I'll keep taking the progesterone till the scan till Wed. It's only delaying the bleeding by another 3 days, I guess I can wait (and it will make the scan less messy :) ).

cheerful yes I'm still having the scan, if only for Mr S to see what's going on in there. I'd like to know if there's nothing but an empty sac or what. I am wincing at the loss of £220-odd (and wondering if I'll have to have a follow-up scan later on to make sure everything has gone? Hope not, can't afford to lose yet another £220!) but I just can't face yet more EPU visits, too many bad memories.

Hugs to everyone, scooter hope you're coping with your grieving, you are morning a death and you take all the time and tears you need. Likewise choccy, hang in there - we may get to have dual intralipids again yet! :)

Cheerfulcharlie · 04/12/2011 16:42

Ari, really sorry to hear your test is showing only 1-2 weeks again. Are you going to still go for your scan?

scooter you are so sweet reassuring us of the stats. My last miscarriage, I was convinced everything was fine after seeing the baby kicking around on several occasions too, then it seemed to stop suddenly after one scan. The shock of it going wrong is pretty hard to take. I'm not sure if NK cells can stop things suddenly, but i had gathered it can happen that way, although I maybe just assumed that. I would be interested to hear more on that if you find more out on it.

Cheerfulcharlie · 04/12/2011 16:35

choccy last time I MC, I was on 2 x 400mg cyclogest per day. The baby had died at 9.5 which I found out about at about 13 week scan. I stopped the cyclogest immediately and MC started pretty strongly within just over 24 hours.

Although it is annoying that cyclogest delays you realising you had a MC, it is reassuring that it maintains the womb lining so well. However, I think it is a good thing to remember that when we do take the cyclogest we must be really really careful not to forget it or delay it too much otherwise the drop in progesterone could presumably lead to the womb lining breaking down pretty quickly, unless of course we had good progesterone levels naturally anyway I suppose?

Good to hear you are being so practical about things, Choccy, but then I suppose we have to be really.

breezy i bet you could have kicked that woman.

freelance I have also been advised by a few docs to avoid flying in 1st trimester as we are classed as high risk. There are a few reasons - radiation (although i think that's only if you fly a lot), increased risk of blood clotting due to the pressure, just the general stress of airports / travelling etc. and also that you wouldn't really want to be travelling if you did miscarry suddenly. Personally I have cancelled my Christmas back in the UK as I don't want to be taking any risks. I'm a bit upset about it as Christmas in the desert isn't a patch on a UK Christmas, but I think i would regret it if I went and it all went wrong. At least if it goes wrong anyway, I will know I did all I could (well, apart from taking pred of course....).

scooterchaser · 04/12/2011 16:23

choccy you are admirable, sounding so strong.
ari so sorry for your news but I know that in reality we do have to listen to our instincts as we know our bodies better than anyone.

I am particularly gutted because I really hoped beyond hope that I had taken one for the team.

In solidarity with both of you I am also still physically miscarrying but the pain is less today. My HCG takes a long time to reduce so as one of lifes cruel jokes I have had quite a few pg symptoms over the last few days but I think they're beginning to fade now too.

I have properly been grieving this time, it's felt like physical pain in my heart. I have two speeds at the moment, keeping busy crying and staring into space crying. I allowed myself to get attached to this one, I saw it three times and it was doing so well.

Most of all, I am really worried that my experience has destabilised and frightened all the pregnant ladies so I wanted you to know that seeing a heartbeat between 7-11weeks usually means a 90% chance of a good outcome. I read today that even with bleeding, only 4% go on to miscarry after seeing a heartbeat at 9weeks or later. I fall into these minorities very sadly, but please don't let my experience colour yours, heartbeats and growth are massive signs of hope for most people.

I have had really promising scans with no obvious dangers, only hours before 3 of my miscarriages now, the way it happens with me seems to be so predictable and clockwork that I suspect the NK cells are just part of the problem, I took all the treatment religiously, two lots of intralipids, the baby had grown well, I'm convinced it was fine. I am not sure NK cells can take a baby from fine to gone in a matter of hours like that. I intend to rule out a lot of other things and actually have the doctors LISTEN to my instincts about it all (I feel like my migraines, the problem with my son's heart at 35weeks etc is all somehow connected and there is an explanation out there somewhere) before I get back on the bandwagon again. I guess with an enforced two month wait I will have time to investigate.

Oh I wish to God I was a drinker (allergic to alcohol - the irony!)

I just wanted to say how much appreciate all your thoughts, because you really really know what I am going through but mostly I wanted to say DO feel positive, hopeful and not be disheartened because this whole process usually turns out well. The odds are still good.

ChoccyPud · 04/12/2011 14:16

Aw, thanks Ari, thats really sweet of you. Sorry you're back down to 1-2 weeks. You've been saying all along you could see where it was going and I was so so hoping you were wrong. I would say think about whether to keep going until your scan though? you'll be able to see if anything is there on Weds and just in case you're wrong you wouldn't want to look back having had a gap in the cyclogest/Pred. It must be right about the cyclogest tho, I obv didn't do one last night. Hadn't connected that one stoopidly.

ChoccyPud · 04/12/2011 14:10

free I didn't take your post that way at all don't worry. I like to think we can speak freely here in the safe knowledge that no one is likely to take things the wrong way as we can all relate to most if not all the things everyone says. Hope so anyway!

Don't know anything about metrozole etc... Maybe I'll be finding out in the new year.

I'd love a red wine drip and twice daily massages and relaxing reflexology sessions in the cocoon house please, with totally no hangover.

Right. I'm off in search of my next round of maybe slightly unhealthy food..:)

Arianrhod · 04/12/2011 14:03

And yes please duggs, I could def. do with that 2-week cocoon house break please. Stop the world, I want to get off!

Arianrhod · 04/12/2011 14:01

choccy I really feel for you, and you vent all you like, you're entitled to!

duggs Glad you're relieved AF is here, at least you know what's going on! Here's to the next, less super-sized, fertile egg! :)

Just a very quickie as I'm supposed to be finishing off the pre-trampoline garden clearing at the mo, much the same with me today - more brown yuck. Also did another CB Digi test out of pure curiosity as to what it would show my hCG is doing and sure enough it's dropped down to showing just 1-2 weeks now. It's what I expected. Good point about the progesterone delaying MC, it's exactly what I've been thinking and I've decided to stop mine. I know full well what's happening, so it makes sense.

choccy that's actually a comforting thought, I think, that your body can feel it has permission to "let go" and get on with the job of cleansing itself. Good in you girl for your strength and overall fabulous attitude. Yes Christmas may be difficult (my second such :( ) but you're looking forward which is just brilliant. Yay you!

/waves and hugs to all (iggi excellent news about the low DS risk), off to more ground clearing for me.

duggs1976 · 04/12/2011 13:57

digi yes metformin for me 3 times a day 500mg each time.. and letrozole supposed to be from day 2 or day 3. AF so so light today I might start CD3 as a 24 day cycle is pretty darn short so I wouldn't mind it being a little longer.
Did you do letrozole Digi or just metformin ?

Has anyone else tried letrozole here ?

I just ate 5 after eight mints (I mean I didn't even realies they still existed) someone bought them over a few weeks ago at my murder mystery party. Since the insulin PCOS news there is nothing sweet in the house... but today with AF and post pred feeling I hunted the damn things down and stuffed 5 in half a second. Now feeling a bit sick. Is it the pred, the met, the letrozole... AF, PG.. for fecks save or is it just because i stuffed too many sickly, circa 1985 choc mints...haa!

Who fancies a week or 2 in the cocoon house ? The butler is a bit lonely, and I've heard he makes a smashing cocktail.. even mocktail for the PG ladies...choccy, scooter you could have daily massages - people can come and go anytime and leave at 30 weeks safely into the world to deliver their babies.
They have fresh flowers delivered and cleaners too.. !

duggs1976 · 04/12/2011 13:47

Het free.. no I didn't make the link between the V HIGH and HIGH.. just the link between people who have MC on Dr S treatment first time, seem to be successful 2nd time, which pretty much ties into the post you read on BC.

As for you travelling.. umm... how many weeks would you be when you fly ? Is there any chance you could "post pone" christmas ?
x

freelancegirl · 04/12/2011 13:29

Am worried I sounded a bit hard-hearted about my last mc now, especially given what some of you are going through this week. I just seemed to take it a loss less hard than the first one of the year. I guess maybe I was expecting it in some way due to the scans not showing any growth. Sorry - I didn't mean to say it wasn't awful and I know how awful it can be. I think I voiced my concerns on an earlier incarnation of this thread, that it was going to come back and bite me in the arse and hit me with a wave of emotion. But so far is hasn't. Strange.

Iggi - forgot to say great news about the low risk for DS! And that Dopplar just sound worrying, it is really hard to always find a heartbeat but you just have to trust it is there. Hard as that is I realise. Where is that womb CCTV?!

All sounds lovely in your house this morning digi! No Christmas activities yet? It's far too early in my house for any, in fact as we go away I might not have any at all. But all is up in the air for Christmas anyway at the moment. Did I tell you that Mr S was very reluctant about the idea of me travelling?! He said maybe just to get the train somewhere like France rather than fly. But I didn't clarify whether that meant he doesn't think I should be on a plane (something about flying?) or doesn't think I should be too far away. Either way we said we would talk more about it if I am still pregnant on the 13th.

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digitalgirl · 04/12/2011 13:08

choccy your post made me cry...it doesn't take much to bring back those mc memories. I remember after the 4th mc was picked up on the scan dh took me home and went to his office (he works alone) to pick up his laptop to work from home. He told me weeks later that he just sat there and cried. I pretty much let myself cry whenever I wanted. I also took 2 weeks off work and it was the best thing I ever did. Work can be a great distraction but for me I just didn't want to have to think about anything serious. I also found lots of walks in the fresh air did me the world of good.

scooter you must still be feeling so raw too. The enforced ttc break is good for the soul. Not having to worry about ovulation, pred, 2ww for a couple of months relieves a lot of pressure.

iggi low risk for ds is great news!! Good luck for your scan tomorrow - another chance to see your little one wriggling. Will you consider putting the doppler away for a couple of weeks after tomorrow?

duggs commiserations on af arriving - but sounds like you'd written this cycle off anyway so it's not too much of a surprise. So do you start on the letrazole again tomorrow? And when do you get scanned? How's the metformin going? I found I got quite nauseas on the full dose for a couple weeks but after that was back to normal.

ari How are you this morning?

breezy Italians, pff! They talk too bloody much! Nice food though (I'm half italian btw)

stogan how's the itching?

Have been for a walk in the woods this morning with ds. We are now watching a spongebob DVD while waiting for the roast pork belly to finish off in the oven. DH is drilling holes in the wall swapping a mirror with a bit of art.

freelancegirl · 04/12/2011 12:58

Breezy, WTF ? I can?t believe that woman. Don?t worry though, we can all relate to the Pred bloat. I have started taking the Omeprazole to try to address this. I am even waking up early in the morning looking somewhat distended. To think this time last year I was a full stone lighter. Very annoying. Especially this early pregnancy bit. I have had been in the early pregnancy stage for 9 flipping months of this year so far. It?s like having the gestation period of a flipping elephant.

I am however slightly envious of your involvement with miniature doll?s house food!!!! How fabulous. I just love that sort of thing and have never had a whiff of it in my life. Even my old doll?s house was a plastic Fisherprice one.

Adding to your train of thought about the mc on Pred Choccy, I can?t say how it will be for you but for me my mc on the Pred was actually much easier than my previous one as I never even saw a baby there. Actually with the previous one I never saw a live baby there (I found out about it?s demise at the 12 week scan after cramping started two days before) but the emotional fall out was a lot less with the previous one as there was only ever a yolk sac even by 8 weeks. It was over quicker than the natural one too as I had the op so no prolonged bleeding. I am not sure whether it will help you in the way that this one is over quickly, but for me it certainly did help. Mr S made me have two months break before TTC. Don?t get me wrong, it was still hideous and upsetting, but the previous one where there had been a baby seen was much much worse for me. Physically I did get some weird post-Pred things (limb vibrating being the weirdest!) but they do soon go. And you never know what is post pred and what is post preg. You are bound to be emotional and tired. It?s good that work is a distraction for you and the one good thing about not being pregnant anymore (this is how I felt anyway) was being able to have a good drink.

Unlike Iggi I was on the 40mg but I think she has a good point about the Progesterone prolonging things.

Ari, how are things with you today? Hope you are feeling ok. And Scooter.

Duggs the stats are pretty interesting. Are we deducing that the level of NK cells actually do make a difference? When I asked Mr S about this he said there had not been any research done but I don?t know if he was trying to calm me down being that I am in the highest 5% of levels he sees (myself and Cherry too I think!). Shit, I think that the cells levels is actually what makes the difference. I need to study our list. It doesn?t make me super dooper confident given my very high levels. And ok I might still be pregnant when others have just lost their pregnancies but I am not even 7 weeks yet!!

Sue in answer to your question my furthest out of 5 pregnancies was the 12 week one, but the baby had died at 7.3. I would say the next week is a really crucial time for me but who knows if there is any pattern? It seems the rest of you have had ones that have gone on longer. Yours sound very upsetting too Cheerful. I know we can all relate to that wanting it to go wrong sooner rather than later thing. It?s a weird place to be in isn?t it!

I have to say I am looking forward to having these conversations in person on Tuesday! I know it will be a bit weird at first but I think we will soon get into the swing of things. Isn?t is so amazing to have people know exactly what you?re going through?! Especially when we are going through such bloody weird shit. Comedy have you been PMd? Glad you can come along! We will all have to have post it notes in front of us with our mn names and rl names on them as it?s going to be confusing! I am happy to PM anyone my mobile if we need another point of contact. PM me to remind me, as my head is like a sieve.

Talking of motorbikes, the 4th Dec is always a very poignant day for me as it is the day I lost my two best friends on one in an accident in 1994. One was my ex boyfriend of 4 years, we had just broken up but were still the best of friends. He?s the reason I moved back to England from Spain and also the reason I am in Brighton still to this day. I love bikes too. They were young, foolish and drunk though. Wild boys, both of them. Paid in the most awful way of course. I always like to have a drink to them on this day as (although I am over it now) it?s a day that really altered my life for a long long time. I will have to raise a glass of ribena! Although I?ve actually gone off that now?Am thinking Lilt maybe.

The 85% success rate is Mr S? overall rate I think, but that is pretty impressive given that the people who come to see him have a lot of problems and they are not just all about NK cells. I don?t know what happens to the other 15% tbh. I really over-thought this when I was going through the mc on the Pred but there are no real conclusions. Someone on BC says that they thought that was 85% on the first go and then more or less everyone else on the second!

BTW, have just got up! Really enjoying bed this weekend! Lots of love to all xx

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duggs1976 · 04/12/2011 12:31

Ahh bless you choccy you are facing things straight on. I am trying to imagine the feelings of mc on pred. Afterall this is our chance drug. I think free and puré and scooter would be able to understand as they've been there. I think the 85% stat for success takes us to a 'normal' risk level. That 15% must make up chromosonal issues. I would like to hear what free read about the rates for 2nd try on pred? They sounded encouraging.
Huge cocoon hug xBiscuit

iggi999 · 04/12/2011 12:20

Hi Choccy. I just wanted to say that ime, coming off the pred post mc wasn't any worse than when af arrives. However, I was only on the 25 dose. You're right to get yourself prepared, but I do hope that won't be a problem. Have you stopped progesterone, or were you not on it? As soon as I stopped that my mc started in earnest, I think it holds back bleeding.
Thinking of you x

ChoccyPud · 04/12/2011 11:58

Morning. This post might turn into quite a lengthy train of thought, so apologies for that. I'm in the numb but highly alert stage today... Got to just let things take their course now, physically and emotionally. Started proper AF type bleeding this morning. Could be pure coincidence (it's 12 days since I started bleeding/mc) or it could be my body releasing now it's been told its ok to let go as there's nothing there to look after. I'd like to think there's an element of the latter as it is comforting to think my positive thinking last week had some success in a way.

At least this could be the last bit of clear out. Not that I'm in a rush to start over again - of course I'm on an enforced (and frankly welcome) ttc break until the new year and am still on Pred which may throw my cycle coming back I guess. Not investigated that yet. Anyway.

Yesterday I was all up for going into town to get food and a few bits to get out the house. Woke up (v early) today, had a little meltdown on dh in bed, popped my 35mg, and decided I just feel like vegging in my tracky bottoms all day.

I'll get my game face on for work tomorrow which will be a nice distraction actually at this stage in the process, there's loads of things on over the next couple of weeks. I'll have a chat with my boss tomorrow to update him and line up an ongoing plan B for if (when) I crash as the Pred and adrenaline levels drop. Not having had a mc on Pred I'm not sure how it's going to affect the emotional reaction, I've had horrible enough days when I stopped 25mg Pred and got AF in the last few months never mind post 40mg and mc... It might sound quite weird to plan for if I need time off later on, but to go to work straight after yesterday's news, but I'd rather stay occupied right now. As to the "plan B," given what I do, my professional obligations mean I have to make sure I'm preparing the ground for him to pick up if I need time off. He's been fantastic the last few weeks and I'm sure he'll just say to do what I need to.

Btw Mr Choccypud was very touched by all your lovely comments. He is a total hero and I think he's suffering more with this one than previous, he well we were both so optimistic with the Pred etc and those hopes have been dashed. We are lucky to have an incredibly strong relationship and we always know we'll get through it together, whatever "it" is this time. I just haven't got the strength to comfort him right now, which I feel bad about but he understands where I'm at and I'm sure is bashing out some grief and frustration at the gym as I type!

Life really is an absolute bitch sometimes. I don't even want to think about how difficult Christmas is going to be... One day at a time. Sorry to bang on about me for so long, It's just so comforting to know I can come here and vent/rant in a supportive and understanding place.

duggs1976 · 04/12/2011 10:43

Morning all...

breezy I like you already. What a stupid woman..I've been given seats on the tube way before I could blame the Pred. ;0)

AF arrived this morning. CD 24.. early??? It must be the pred and metformin I guess? Am kind of glad as I would rather not get PG with the over ripe egg especially as I have had one trisomy girl baby which got to 12 weeks so I am holiding out for a perfect egg. Dr S letter arrived yesterday and he says between 18 and 23mm is what he is looking for so hoping for that for my ovulation scan in 2 weeks time.

I've updated the sheet as per the PM requests I had through.
Still 9 PG ladies amongst us. Looking at their info most have had 4,5 or 6 MC and most are now in their 2nd or 3rd trimesters.

There are now 14 of us TTC gang. I have added BFP seeker, Hopeful and Euro you are stil about arent you? Most of this bunch have had 3, 4 or 5 MC so it does seem to reflect the trial and error element of getting there eventually.

free you are pretty pionoeering for the V HIGH ladies, if you get through the next 2 weeks we will all have to have a celebration as it could pave the way for others too. (no pressure then) No seriously. It is really interesting.

Not sure when Bettery or cherry are due to ovulate so don't know where to put you on list, but not everyone will want their details all over it so update if you want to otherwise you can sit there in your group.

hope you have a good sunday and choccy and scooter you are both doing ok, as much as can be expected. Ari how are things with you now?

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtEN_z1FdjUMdHd6c0xCd2JRd3hXVmtTZXROYVE1OGc#gid=0

Arianrhod · 04/12/2011 10:32

choccy how are you doing this morning? And scooter, how are you?

Arianrhod · 04/12/2011 10:31

Oh now you're talking kittens, I've always ridden motorbikes up until I was 5 months pregnant with DD then it was just too uncomfortable, plus I needed the money for my maternity leave so I had to sell it. I've always said I will buy another when DD is old enough to go on the back, so that's my backup plan.

Havingkittens · 04/12/2011 08:22

My back up plan, if this doesn't all work out, depends very much on whether I've got any of my savings left by the end of it all. I would like to buy a motorbike.

It's just occurred to me that this is the first entire year I've been without being pregnant in 5 years!