TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 3

cheerful my boob tenderness came and went a lot in first trimester. Actually went up a notch after I came off pred (as comedy has already mentioned).

battery how are you this morning preggars? Feeling totally normal if not a little wired on the pred? I very very nearly bought some Parma ham the other day as I miss eating it so much. (i did however succumb and ate some m&s tempura prawns). But hooray for lovely chrismassy distractions getting you through these early days. What date is your 6 week scan? I'll add it to the list.

Glad to hear yesterday's meet up went well. It's amazing what a bit of group therapy can do.

I was at home making Christmas cards with ds, except he got bored about 5 minutes into it and went off to do some painting instead. Cards all done now, just need to write them out. We were meant to go to a xmas cocktail party last night but it got cancelled. So got the presents all wrapped too - just need the last few bits and pieces (ds, dh, dsis and dmum - ah right, the most important ones...) Right - off to get those last bits now. Will catch up more later.

cheerful remember pregnant until proven otherwise. I went to two of my scans with a complete absence of symptoms, feeling doomed, and found a little bean chugging away. Symptoms always came and went when pregnant with my son and I just didn't know any better then so it didn't bother me. I remember thinking that perhaps it was all a dream when I felt totally normal. Hope today goes quickly for you and you start to get some other reassuring signs but try not to panic if you don't. Keep thinking some women have no idea they're pregnant til they give birth....btw who ARE these women and can they please spread a little ignorance in our direction because it is so appealing.
Sending hugs and may time speed til Tues scan for you x

choccy hope your Colin Firth therapy gave you just a moment of 'inappropriate happiness' this weekend and that BiL has been suitably blasted for his comments. Hope they had to stay in and reflect on how very lucky they are to have their kids because it sounds like they needed to get things in perspective. Sunday hugs to you too.

Cheerful, agree with the others, symptoms do come and go so it is probably just that. It is such a worry though so hugs to you x

On my phone so can't post much. The meet up sounds great, I wish I could have been there x all is ok here . Had dps Xmas do lots of free wine and cured italian meats which I love but was happy to stay away from !

Will post more tonight , have a good day everyone x

Morning cheerful useless a piece of advice as it is try not to worry - I had almost no breast soreness on the pred just occasional and it has only kicked in now I've weaned off them. I've been sore at times from the constant prodding rather than soreness itself. I know loss of tenderness can be a sign of miscarriage but do remember that our cocktail of drugs has an even greater effect and I didn't realise how much until I came off them. Take care and fingers crossed for Tuesday xx

scooter Duggs and snoopy thank you for your lovely comments I don't think I've ever been described as 'blooming' in pregnancy - usually 'pasty' 'palid' and 'sickly' are more appropriate so thank you! Hope we can do it again at some point + 28th Jan good for me Duggs*. X

Just asked dr google - " my boobs aren't sore anymore in early pg" - baby centre thread !! It's quite normal for symptoms to fluctuate. Sorry I can't copy link as on iPhone in bed. Am sure you've read it. X

Hey cheerful when was last scan? Boobs will fluctuate ESP on pred...what a rollercoaster for us it makes me so when I think about the "journey". I've never got past 12 wks so maybe a more experienced one of us can back me up about fluctuating symptoms ? Big hug to you honey you are still pregnant - boobs aren't a reliable enough guide. X

I've had a horrible night - woke up at 3am to find boobs no longer sore and now I feel convinced it's died. So stressed out. Have to go to works as I have an important client meeting but I feel so knackered from lack of sleep I can barely think. Can't get a scan until tues either as my dad is visiting for a couple of days :-(

Hilarious . . Just read the posts from earlier! Yes "pub diagnosis took place" in my little book. No honey or royal jelly tablets, no swi everyday - must be every other, longer on pred for scooter, some mid ov scanning for sue! Tis all in there, we could open an advice line.

How is sat 28 jan looking for a lunch on southbank ?

comedy I've thought about u a lot since and u r inspirational. scooter ive seen u twice this week and reckon you've OD'ed on the "inappropriate happiness" front as u certainly seem in good spirits. sue reckon you r PG or if not reckon u should talk to digi as think u shagging when u should be testing etc. A round on super ov will give u an ideas of what's happening inside if nothing else. snoopy I wanted to hug u you looked a bit shell shocked that we were all there. The young chicks behind us r scarred for life now and I do feel stronger and energised mentally and physically after real life meets. If anyone can meet even 1 person from here it has to be a good thing.

Hope all is well - is free ok ? X

Ditto so great to meet up.
So uplifting to be talking so freely to such lovely people on the same journey. Possibly not so uplifting for the people on the next table to overhear, but quite rightly sod em!

Sharing all our knowledge is so important. Even without my follow up appointment, I feel like I have a few ideas to improve my chances for catching a good one next time and a realistic though patience-testing timescale (oh we were such geeks and wrote it down in Duggs's little book!) Thanks guys :) feeling positivity creeping back again.

Comedy you were inspiringly glowing today and will be crossing everything for a happy scan on Weds.

Snoopy enjoy preps for that well-deserved holiday. PS believe me I do crumpling too. It's usually every other day... today was a smiley one, possibly won't venture out from the duvet tomorrow. At least it's good to be prepared for the crash landings.

Sue & Duggs we shared some great tips (note to the team: apparently we are to stay off immune-boosting honey!) let's hope this next cycle is the one for both of you. Bring on the new year BFPs.

Hi all,

Yes lovely to meet you all - your all lovely wise ladies and i just wish I had a bit more to wisdom to impart but spose i''m just on start of pred journey really. So it's been straight 5 m/c's on own without sharing it all on board like this. Dead glad I've found you to go through it with.
scooter echo what comedy says and wanted to give you bigger hug but felt that was bit friendly on first date! don't think i could have met up so soon after without crumpling.
comedy you look blooming and am wishing you all the luck for the future you so deserve it. let us know how scan goes.
sue sorry didnt' get to talk much, if def no luck for you this month then hopefully he will consider you for the Sup Ov program, hope things improve with OH. message me if ever you want to spill it out. I'm a good listener.
duggs hope Sup Ov scan goes well and looking forward to reading the results of your scribblings and some new analysis from you!

Tick DS asleep, Strictly, and meal 4 one, next up x factor, wine and christmas bickies...whoops.
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Lovely meet up this afternoon - really enjoyed meeting you Duggs sue snoopy and scooter - thank you all. As we've all said so good to talk to people who understand. Really think you are being very strong scooter by the way.

I am seeing Mr S on Wednesday this week - although sixteen weeks does give you some confidence still very nervous - excited about the possibility of finding out son/ daughter but fearing the worst as well.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend - possibly wrapped up warm watching strictly like me!

I didn't think you were being judgemental at all lemon. Indeed I think it's worse that BIL responded as he did when he has experienced a loss.

Looking forward to the stories from this afternoon's meet up!

charlie it is OK, think some people just do not think and it is hard to know what this is like unless you are going through it. I think if anything this has made me a more understanding person to others. Does that make sense? I look back at what I would of said to someone after a miscarriage and realise that at the time, I thought I was being sensitive, but now I realise I could of done a lot better.

choccy sorry realised I was very judgemental that your BIL did not know what a non routine pregnancy was like. I hope that you get to enjoy some of strictly tonight and actually get a chance to relax and have some me time.

You can all see I am having a mumsnet addicted day. Hope the meet up is going well. Anyone seeing Mr S soon?

Wow-ee. Cannot believe these in law comments. Unbelievable. Hope you guys manage to find the patience to rise above it.

Lemon, the irony (if that is the word) is that SIL had a termination at about 12 weeks or so due finding out at 12 week scan that the baby's brain wasn't developing at all and it wouldn't make it to term. Chromosomal problem. This was c.4 years ago between their ds and dd.

I'm sure SIL would not display the same attitude as BIL. But it's not as though BIL hasn't been through a "non plain sailing" pg.

I know what you mean about family pg's - its just too close to home and such a direct in your face comparison. My other SIL is pg with their second due May. My mum told dh last week when he called to tell her about my mc so he knew and could prepare me for it when he thought it as the right time to tell me. We are supposed to see them at Xmas so that's another thing to think about whether I am ready to handle it, but which I'm putting off still. What seems so unfair is worrying about spoiling their day by being down, or snapping something about they don't know how lucky they are, or you telling MIL where to get off with her thoughtless remarks.

We could turn it into a whole other thread, but it's really all about how we handle our grief/stress/mentalling and how others react to it and how we try to pussyfoot around their emotions when we should be looking after our own.

Have a lovely time this afternoon ladies... scooter I did the Farnham thing too, you aren't the only one!!

choccy SIL news is about a week old. Announced they were going to start TTC and got pregnant within first month and sailing through it. Decided to telephone late one night after they had heard we had seen Mr S to tell us. They know about all 3 miscarriages. Have been fine when friends have told me they are pregnant just this one really struggling. But I think it is partly MIL fault she seems to think we will never have a baby and this has just escalated it to a whole new level. When I have been pregnant in the past and told her and she has asked how many weeks she will then say something like well plenty of time for it still to go wrong. She even did that when I was 16 weeks. Sorry this is not the place for MIL rant that would be a whole new thread.

I am so sorry about BIL can not believe the nerve. You were doing them a favour. I guess they have never had a miscarriage. Am really for you.

Choccy I would text them a piece of my mind - talk about insensitive! I should imagine most of us without kids would not want to be around other peoples kids anyway when a miscarriage is so recent. A good blast of Colin Firth will help I am sure! I think we all need to listen to you as we will all beat this! Only the ladies that give up dont get their baby - that's my opinion anyway.

Scooter hope you can make it today but understand if it's too far.
I won't be wearing a fur coat as that is a Christmas pressie from DH but will be in a black coat and blue top. It will be a bit like a blind date!

Duggs cant believe you are stalking old ladies in fur coats - how funny!

Well done Stogan for getting to your 3rd trimester! It's natural to start worrying about the birth. I think as soon as you are pregnant the worrying never stops. I still worry about my DD when she is in bed at night and check on her even though she is 3. My mum told me she still worries about me!

Lemon time does drag when you are waiting for your body to get back to normal after a miscarriage. It's crazy as it's the only time you are wishing for the dreaded AF. I think my last one came back around 6 weeks after the miscarriage.

Hi all - it's been a long week - so need to catch up. Great to see there is another BFP though - great news!
Looking forward to meeting Duggs sue scooter and snoopy later - I'll be looking out for fur and maybe some 'rounded' faces! (or is that just me!)
Have as good a weekend as everyone can xx

So, dh text BIL this morning to apologise and explain that I'm crashing don't feel up to leaving the house and he feels he needs to be at home with me tonight so we can't babysit. Response: "its too late to get an agency sitter, not happy".

Unfeckingbelievable. What is it with insensitive IL's?! BIL's basically making dh and me feel guilty for letting them down because we're grieving over yet another mc. Well I'm sorry to inconvenience them!!! . I'm hoping I can resist the urge to text him a piece of my mind, which I don't think would be constructive. I imagine their mum will do the job when she hears about BILs attitude.

lemon did your SIL just announce she's pg? I remember you saying she had it all planned out but not sure if the pg is new news. It's completely natural for you to feel that way, they do seem astonishingly clueless and insensitive. I don't think we expect empathy from anyone who hasn't been through rmc but a bit of consideration wouldn't go amiss.

Thank you everyone for reassuring me its ok to rant on here and is not mad to be feeling what I'm feeling right now.

I'm spending the afternoon avoiding all the Christmas cheer on TV by watching Pride & Prejudice for the umpteenth time. So, am putting Bah humbug on pause in preference to Colin Firth in a wet shirt. I won't let this beat me :)

kittens sorry to hear about your mum's infection, that is tough. Hopefully they have time to treat it and she will be able to be home for Christmas. Yes it is my uncle with a house out there too and nice to be able to imagine exactly where you go, it is indeed rural so I have probably frequented all the same places. Really hope your counselling appointment rolls up soon, but for now always vent with us, we are here for listening. Lord knows I haven't been a bundle of joy in my posts recently but I think everybody understands that's when we need it most.

Free glad to hear about weird sickness and sherbert sweets, good signs especially when we know so many of the symptoms get masked, so try not to fixate too much on what you aren't feeling. Kwym about significant window of when you mc before, it's so hard but all you can do is try to get through each day and tick it off as it passes. I found it comforting when it started to get darker earlier...hooray one more day down!

Ari agree 'suspiciously fine' must come under the inappropriate happiness umbrella! Spent Fri morning with my friend's new baby thinking, you know what getting a baby is not hard, tons of people do this, I can do this, it is NOT going to beat me I am just going to keep frigging well trying and it's going to work. Glad you got to see Dr S and he doesn't seem to think the HCG is a worry, be nice to have it confirmed though so you can have a break from the clinic for a bit.

Digi your dream sounded so awful. What a massive relief to wake up and that you are having refreshingly normal pg symptoms like wind! How funny it is what we are grateful for! So nice to hear about the wriggles :)

coconut glad you got your assignment in, what a totally knackering time for you. Enjoy some time off and pampering this weekend.

Stogan - third trim wahey! You can start a new pioneering category. I know the fear will always be there but the light at the end of the tunnel is in sight. Hang in there, you're our inspiration and hope :)

Lemon fingers crossed for AF soon, the milestones we have to look forward to hey.

Choccy hope that you have perhaps managed to cancel the babysit and have the time with DH. Thinking of you this weekend.

PQ thinking of you at the party today. Hope you don't get awkward questions, know exactly what these things are like full of happy naievely '2.4' families asking about the 'next one' and those wanting the ground to swallow you moments. Hope it passes off ok and DS enjoys himself.

Hope that brownie is lurking, haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing?

duggs snoopy sue comedy looking forward to seeing you later. Have just discovered that Farnham Common is nowhere near Farnham and so pretty much miles away but hey nothing else I'd rather be doing! So M25 permitting i'll still be there.

iggi we will look out for trench-coated moustached individuals lurking near our table, what a busy week he's had ;)

choccy you have my sympathy. My last miscarriage was in Nov and because work had been less than understanding with my 2 previous miscarriages, I felt I had to go to work whilst I was miscarrying. It is really hard and I am so sorry that you are going through this. I think you are really brave to be babysitting tonight and it is you doing your in laws the favour.

Ari any news on the tests yet. Fingers crossed it is not an ectopic. It does not seem fair that you have gone through so much and then have this to worry about.

Battery congratulations on the BFP- good to have some positive news on here.

kittens sorry to hear about your mum, hope she gets better soon.

stogan congratulations on reaching the third trimester. I can not imagine reaching that stage. You provide hope to the rest of us that we can all get to that stage.

pq77 hope that the arm is no longer bleeding.

free how are things going? When is your next scan due?

scooter how are you doing?

I am OK. Getting fed up had my last miscarriage at the start of November and still no period yet. Just would like to it to start so I could start again-does that make sense. I have just over a week till I see Mr S. I am hoping it is going to be OK but keep having nightmares where he tells me I will never be able to have children. Think it is partly the insensitivity of my in laws especially since my SIL is now pregnant.

Sorry if I have missed anyone out.

duggs thats so funny. I'll be wearing a purple parka with furry hood if that helps. see you all later x

Oh good scooter your second meet as well. We know each other so that helps too x good! These meetings are only thing I look forward to currently

I asked a fur clad lady if she was looking for duggs!! She looked at me as if I'd escaped from an asylum and I realised she was pushing 60 so both backed away quickly It is a bit like blind dating - I shall stay in fur coat and look expectantly at all single ladies until someone looks back!! comedy is PG so should narrow her down ! See u later. Waves to all. . My second RL MNET meet in one week. Have early CD9 mid ov scan with dr s on Monday to see if my follicles behaving! Bloody hope they r as this is 4th pred round getting bored now.
Waves to everyone.

choccy I tried to post this last night but managed to press some random button and make it all disappear. So here is an abridged version - never apologise for ranting on here - if you can't here where can you?
As for babysitting; never in a million years are you going to be the selfish one to ask that they come home at a reasonable hour. You are doing them a huge favour. And you know what - unless you tell me that they are really strapped for cash and can't stretch to £5/hour for a babysitter and that you REALLY enjoy babysitting - don't babysit for them in the next while and spend saturday nights with your DH doing exactly what you want. FWIW I have never asked my BIL and SIL to babysit even though they live 5 mins away and (currently) have no kids. I just feel that it is too much of an imposition (it would be different though if my sisters were in town though!). Sorry, that might not be a hepful thing to say but I think you need to look out for yourself a bit more, especially when things are full on at work.

batteryscans at 6, 9 and 12 sound like a good plan. Hope you are feeling well today.

have fun at your meet up this afternoon ladies, I shall be thinking of you as I am at a one year olds b'day party. Know where I would rather be! sue - just call someones phone and see who reaches into their bag to pick up; that was what I did on Tues! i did feel like i was going on a massive blind date though- quite funny when you stop to think about it.