We are all jolly well going to smack the rat this month and grow a baby and we'll brook no argument. And probably eat some cake too.

Solars I am totally gutted for you. TTC is an utter bugger. The Hope and Disspair. But fx Clomid will work for you and that your BFP is really not so far away. BROOK, brook, brook. You are also very gracious about it so definitely deserve a very fine vintage and much hugs from us and OH.

I bowled myself over last night - I overcame the MANFLU obstacle. Yes, indeedy. Ordered DP into relaxing bath with DS (well, not that relaxing having water poured all over you from a height and generally much wriggling and excitement but hey - bonding), got the sausage, squash, split pea casserole in the oven, poured DP glass of vitamin-rich malbec. Retrieved DS from bath and got him to bed early. Then DP got massage etc. Well, that's enough info. So final bit of spermage on cd13 - ov day!!!!

So there we are. Stoic efforts, flying in the face of AF.

And it's full moon tonight Brookers - I hope you are all howling.

x

bugger bugger bugger solars was convinced!
But as you say, a nice long luteal phase if nothing else.
And you don;t 100% know when you ovulated so you are still in the running

Popcorn you should definitely pounce on DH when he gets in from work, that's what I do more often than not these days..my DH has a tendency to lie on the sofa after dinner and fall asleep...

Well I used opks and I also got very painful ov pains on CD14. I do think it's just clomid stretching out my lp as it can increase the progesterone levels.

Solars what I meant about the temping was, is it possible you got your ovulation date wrong and you're not as many DPO as you think?

It could well be too early - but even if it's not, a nice long luteal phase will make next month even better for conceiving :)
How do you know which day you ovulated without temping, though? Sorry if this is a silly question

I was right, temps show a slight drop so I'm a day behind my usual CD18 ovulation - I reckon I'm ovulating today rather than yesterday. Which isn't great news, as DH was again asleep by 8.15 (8.15!! ) yesterday and, despite the best of my feminine wiles, he was having none of it. He was snoring his head off by 8.30. (Worst thing was, he said he was so tired because he went to bed soooo early the night before which caused him to wake up at 4am and not get back to sleep )

I think I will need to pounce on him as soon as he gets home from work, or we'll only have two headed sperms from 3 days ago to go on :(

Aw Solars - fingers crossed it was just too early but have some and anyway xxx

Stasi thanks for your confidence but I don't temp, hope you're having a great honeymoon x

Test on FR says BFN :(

I think it's just clomid playing silly buggers with me, I was even more sadder about telling DH, although he still thinks I've tested too early :(

Ah so glad you had a great wedding etc Stasi. Enjoy the rest of your honeymoon xxx

Solars - have you been temping? I like the sound muchly of what Stasi says......

very quick post from my phone to say good luck solars! Internet reception is poor on Skye, so not had much chance to check in. hope everyone is well. My wedding day was amazing, and the honeymoon awesome so far. Back to a real web connection at the weekend, but I will definitely be checking my phone in the morning. Solars, many sites I have read say 18 days of high temps means you are almost certainly pregnant. Even with a long lp your temp should drop before then. Fingers crossed they are right.

Brooking set to maximum for you Solars. x

Glad you've warned me it won't be until 9am! Otherwise I'd have been glued to my phone from about 6am. I'd have probably called out the emergency search and rescue for you by 7:30am!!

I shall be checking in on you on my way to work tomorrow. I'll be brooking super hard for you. And 18dpo is heroic even if your immense patience is caused by fear!

I know 18dpo!!! It's more out of fear I think, no heroism at all Ninja

It'll probably be around 9ish or thereabouts I think

I'm sending crossed fingers and big squishy hugs too solars I think you have been heroically patient.

And can I just say a bloody hell! 18dpo!!!

We should start a new award (to go alongside the Bartlet award) for testing patience?

Now, the important question, is what time will you be updating us tomorrow?

Thanks Biscuits & Farfalla it's a much needed hug! I think I will test tomorrow morning as i'll be 18dpo then. Oh well at least I'll know tomorrow either way. I hope you are doing ok Biscuits I forgot to mention hope the scan goes well on Friday, how exciting xx

yes big squidgy hugs, well done biscuits!

Sorry - cross post Solars - ignore my non-sensical ramblings

Solars you poor poor thing. The 2ww is torture enough without turning it into a 2.5-3ww . Especially when you're inevitably going to be watching even more closely .

Like Farfalla says though, you could test? Or maybe test on Friday? I will share my faultless logic for this: HPTs test for HCG, which is produced after implantation right? Implantation will have happened within a few days of ovulation? (is this right?). So, even if your LP is longer, implantation would still have taken place near ovulation. This HCG would have already started to be produced?

Sorry, I've not explained that very clearly, I'm sure someone might be able to explain it better. But if you wait until Friday, you'd be, what, 16dpo? That should give you a fairly accurate result? At least then you'd know?

But then again, I totally understand if you'd rather not run the risk of getting a bfn I know lots of people would rather see AF than a bfn?

Whatever, I'm really feeling for you - have a huge squidgy hug xxx

I think I will test tomorrow. I would have a glass of wine but hubby and I have I have just watched an episode of Dallas and it was of the one where Sue Ellen is drinking heavily whilst heavily pregnant and J R forcibly checks her into a clinic! I don't think DH would allow me a glass of vino after watching that!!

I know, I know, its not as bad as misbehaving mums to be which really used to annoy me but I felt strangely compelled to watch anyway!

Why don't you do a test, I think you are past 14 dpo and so should get an accurate result? Have a glass of wine, it won;t hurt I am sure!

Teen mum 2?? Farfalla

Oh Farfalla the more I read online about clomid the more I am convinced that clomid has just increased my luteal phase :( wish I could join you in that glass of wine...

Chick peas!!!
Oh my god, there goes my plan for keeping healthy in India (not eating meat)
Eeeeeek

solars you are being incredibly stoical on the testing front!
imps extremely impressive preggo symptoms there well done
Heres to loads of sperminating, hooray

DH is out tonight, no doubt will come back extremely drunk as per usual work events! Having a nice evening watching crap telly (including teen mum 2, why do I do it to myself?) and nice glass of
or 3!!!

I was meant to be not drinking that much this month but am afraid I am enjoying a nice glass of red and have convinced myself its got for the antioxidants.