We are all jolly well going to smack the rat this month and grow a baby and we'll brook no argument. And probably eat some cake too.

Bean I now leave mine in the bathroom cabinet, sneak downstairs and do it there. I know you're not technically supposed to even move before you temp, but I figure the exact same amount of activity pre-temping each morning probably cancels itself out?? My thermometer beeps otherwise I'd just do it next to Mr Snorey-pants.

I love to knit and crochet, sew, spin, weave... but I work on craft mags for a living so it's par for the course. I'm not amazing at it as I like to dabble in so much stuff, but what I lack in knowhow I make up for in the skill of "bodging" :o

generic you are well sensible, FX for you this month!!

Thanks for the AF consolation smegs, cupcakes et al

cupcakes get rat smacking, morning sex is meant to be the best, something to do with rested swimmers.

Sorry to hear about your job smegs, it sounds awful!
I must say I luurrrve my job and its the one thing that has kept me sane during this TTC insanity so I sympathise with the hating the job bit, more reason to get updiffed asap!

muunki I am so so sorry, I have been there, its crap and that is all I can say. I know nothing anyone can say will help at this stage. Take care of yourself and we are all here when you feel ready to try again.

I am the twice a day OV tester obsessive, works for me as I also have a short surge at times. I OV pretty consistently on day 13-15 (apart from this month on day 17!!!) so its not too expensive. I also 2nd the smileys, I could never interpret the cheapos.

popcorn smack that rat good and proper now tonight, ok?

I am off on Friday, woo hoo!

Oooh - temping fanjoly? Didn't even know it was an option. Do DHs/DPs enjoy this aspect of TTC or are they usually still snoring at this point in the day?

Good @ knitting then Pop? You must be if you can do socks! I'm a rubbish knitter. Much happier as a hooker myself.

May services happily resume in the Popalot household. Now I must get away from this darned computer and re-lax.

We have missed yooooou :o

Yes you're right, I'm just panicking I think. I also searched FF and there are charts for people who go upduffed SWI the day after ovulation, so I hope today will do the trick :o

Who is due to announce their pg next? :)

Pop apparently your body can gear up to ovulation giving you a positive but it can be delayed for a number of reasons. Sperm can last for 5 days. Get smacking that rat ASAP and hopefully you'll be covered anyway

I think I'm using the same OPKs as you, I'm trying to use them up so I can justify the smiley ones as I'm sick of the uncertainty

Sorry I've been AWOL - got back from work thingy last Wednesday, then back in to work on Thursday, day off worked from home Friday, nice weekend with dsis and family, then proper day off yesterday. Am trying not to mental too much this month, so I suppose I've stepped away from MN a bit.

Sorry to hear sad news from Munkii - it's a horrible thing to go through and I hope you will feel better soon.

Hope Bartlet is doing OK.

Sorry you didn't get your clomid BFP this time, Solars.

Sorry your AF came too Farfalla but enjoy all the holiday shagging.

Popcorn sounds mysterious to me - hope you didn't miss it. I'm sure I heard swimmers can last 5 days...

I think I'm 9 dpo but I am definitely not peeing on anything until I'm properly late.

Hope all the ill people/children get well soon.

I was when it was + on CD19 smegs, after far suggested it. I think I shall persevere with twice a day in future and not stop until my temps are definitely, definitely raised :(

If I put raised temps into FF for the next 2 days, it reckons I OV'd yesterday despite today's OPK (obv I didn't test yesterday) - which will have been 4 days since we last DTD, sob. 4 days!! I've missed it. Noooooooo! :(

BTW do you test twice a day, Popcorn? Someone on here mentioned it upthread, and since I have a very short surge before ovulation I've decided to do it in future.

Smiley faces rock!

Oh Munkiii, I'm so sorry. Take care of yourself, and we'll see you soon. x

Popcorn it's possible to ovulate twice in one cycle, so I'm sure that almost ovulating, then having another go can happen too. Sounds like quite good timing now your FIL has gone home, go smack that rat! Cupcakes you too!

40 days!

I am so going to buy smilies faces next month. Waaaay less complex.

By strong negative I mean the lines were almost the same shade, but the test line was fractionally lighter than the control line. I've never ever had it go darker, and usually put this down to poor test timing.........

I'm really so, so sorry :( Take it easy, and look after yourself Munkii. (((big hug for Munkii)))

I have noooooo idea what my body is doing. OPK was negative, but it was a strong negative which is as close to a + as I usually get, and the same result as I had on 19th, despite having a definite negative OPK on 22nd. I did a pg test as well just incase but it's definitely negative.

Is it possible to almost ovulate and then your body try and have another go???

Munkii am very sorry to hear that. I know nothing I say will help but am thinking of you and your DH. Hope you are both able to take it easy for a few days

Think I may well smack the rat then ladies! Why not eh?! I can't do it in the morning as it will mean waking DH up at 5 which I don't think he will be happy about.

Scrambled sorry your job is so rubbish, good luck in finding another one. I'm not happy at work, I'm desperate to reduce my hours but have been hanging in there waiting for ML first.

Pop I think it's a good idea to POAOPK just in case

((( munkiii )))

Afternoon brookers

Just popping in, back from the hospital and sadly I have definitely miscarried.

Will be back in a few weeks.

Good thinking smegs, I will go poaopk to make sure I'm not oving now (it'll be a bugger if I am, after this weekend' sex-famine :( )

Hmmmm no, I've cut down on sugar and alcohol drastically since last Wednesday beans as I've re-started weight watchers. I suppose I eat a lot of carbs, but I always have/do? It's not thick, it doesn't smell of anything at all, and I've no discomfort. I suppose it's just back to the old "wait and see what happens" :o

Rotfl @ the "old in-out" :o
FIL has just left, so certain "services" shall now resume as normal in the Popcorn household :o

stasi I find temping fanjolly more reliable just because I was finding my temps skewed depending on whether I slept with my gob open sexy or not :o

Sorry, Popcorn, I'm totally at a loss now! Have you POAOPK just to make sure you aren't ov'ing ridiculously late?

Stasi I don't know about better, but temping fanjoly seems to give more reasonable temps for me. Probably because I'm a bit of a fly-catcher while asleep?

Sorry Stasi - don't know much about this.

Hey Popcorn - that CM might be a sign of early pregnancy said gurugoogle, no? How exciting.

As an aside, it temping other-than-orally better?

I'm using two thermometers atm, as I bought a more accurate one half way through this cycle, and wanted to have both sets of results to see if they gave similar results.