Brooking No Argument for Positive Pee Sticks, Healthy Pregnancies and Home-made Cakes!!!

Morning ladies

Beedle your dr doesn't sound very helpful at all, have you considered seeing someone else for another opinion?

Musical your scan sounds magical well done!

Imps your work stuff sounds very frustrating, don't blame you for feeling so angry about it and great that you have something to go to when you leave.

Thank you to all brooking for me, I'm doing ok as af still hasn't arrived and i'm pretty certain i'm on 16DPO. Discussed testing last night with DH and he's of the opinion of waiting 'til the end of the week!! It all seems a bit confusing for me being on clomid because it actually made me ov earlier so on a normal cycle I would be expecting af at the end of the week. I'm going to wait 'til the end of the week as i'm so scared of getting a bfn and telling DH (you should have seen the smile on his face when I said I think i'm on 15DPO last night). I have no feeling of af being imminent.

Anyway, enough about me, how is everyone else?

Scrambled what is DBF/TLES?

Ah, thanks. I just got a bit worried that it meant this cycle was annovulatory, but I think the positive OPK yesterday plus rise in temp this morning means that the egg has popped! Hopefully temps will now stay high.

Has anyone else seen the DBF / TLES fallout from yesterday? It's all a bit especially with Justine getting involved too.

Hey popcorn

Yes - I got my smiley face this morning. DTD last night and planning to DTD tomorrow. Do you have any idea what the average length of the surge detection to ovulation is - ie, will tomorrow morning be better than tomorrow night? (Can't do tonight...) Anyway - big brooking for you - that BFP is on it's way. We are now officially cycle buddies and I can confirm that during my pregnancy I sat down a colleague's wife who had been TTC for a few years and lo and behold she has a babster now so I am a lucky rabbit's paw for you.

beedle - get your share of the tax - why the buggery not? PLUS a beautiful bean.

scrambled - sorry to ring the alarm bells but ovarian reserve drops from around 35-37 (but can be earlier in others). Now mine can't have been that bad at 37 (pg in 6 weeks TTC/living with beloved) but at 39 there's been no such joy (a year gone by) so take that as a minor example but bear in mind this is damn ratting LOTTERY. Some people have babies at 48 no problem (though probably a bit of a surprise).

I have decided to leave AMH test until next month if AF comes (which I have to be prepared for as the old hag has been around 13-14 months now without any qualms).

Is anyone else due to OV today/tomorrow? I need a new cycle buddy (I miss cakepidgeon )

Smegs mine month before last was only 1 day, so I think it's pretty normal.

Musical it was sucking its thumb? Seriously? That's amazing.

Beedle if you're able to self-refer, how are they going to know that it hasn't in fact already been 12 months?
I googled those home tests, but tbh I think I'd just freak out if it gave me unfavourable results, so I think I'll just wait til Jan...........

imps that's where I went wrong - I demanded to see a fanjologist and the doctor didn't understand me - does she not read mumsnet????

smegs I think a blink and you miss it LH surge is perfectly normal, hope you smacked that rat good and proper

Beedle I love the idea of self-referral - I've often said that they should implement it here. When I had a problem with my eyes last year, I knew I needed to go to see an opthalmologist, but had to go to the GP to get a referral - what a waste of time! Similarly, if you know you have a fanjo issue it's clear that you need to see a fanjologist - why not self refer?

Day 2 of my pregnancy here. Another 17/18 days til the egg and counting...

we know Beedle! You don't have to explain.

no but i think you are right in that as a country you have great services once you have a baby.

just read what I wrote, obviously I don't just want a child so I can get my share of the tax-payers money

ooh beedle I love Sweden, we have family friends in Goteborg and Stockholm. The archipeligos at both are just gorgeous. Hopefully it was just a blip cycle then.

Oh Beedle that sounds awful. What a rubbish doctor. I'm very on your behalf.

bean I hadn't even considered the fact that I may not have many eggs left. How depressing . Hopefully your AMH levels are fine and another little bean will soon be on its way.

No smiley face today, but temp is rocketing. Can a LH surge really be that short? I thought it was meant to last for two days, but mine was a 'blink and you'll miss it'!

no bean I didn't burn my mouth at all. I have had acupuncture before, so maybe it is something i could look into. It sounds like it worked really well for you. FX you test comes back ok

Don't worry ninja I'm not in the UK. I live in Sweden, a country which has fabulous parental rights/benefits and subsidised childcare - I just need a child to take advantage of it!!! My cycle has been fine until now, nice and regular at 23/24 days with periods lasting about 2 days followed by a bit of spotting.

Solars, I'm also brooking extra hard for you.

Now who is testing soon? We need some more positive pee sticks :)

are you in the uk beedle? It sounds like a rather odd appointment is you are. It could just be a blip with your cycle though I guess. How long is your cycle and is it usually regular? Apologies of you've answered this a million times.
Good luck today bean and make sure you come out with all the tests you need to have booked. We shall all brook for you.
Hello all newbies and welcome.
solars how are you doing? cupcakes is correct re biscuits and myself. I'm brooking extra extra hard for you lady.
mmmm scones..............I think I need breakfast!

Thanks Beedle - the doc didn't really want to get too involved as I had DS not so very, very long ago. They have agreed to refer me for a private test to check out my ovarian reserve (AMH). Just a wee £85 to spend there but will give me an idea as to whether a rat will ever be smacked. If my AMH level is low then I will just have to stop torturing myself and knackering DP and get on with the fact that I have one very special little bean and am darned lucky at that.

This may not be your bag but I would highly recommend acupuncture and herbs to sort out your cycle. I had acupuncture throughout pregnancy for DS and was extremely well (not even a hiccup of morning sickness, very steady blood pressure, no swollen anything). Even when DS was breech at 38 weeks the acupuncturist helped turn him. I had a 6-hour labour at home (aged 38). But of course needles aren't everyone's favourite.

Hope that scone didn't burn your tongue.

bean good luck at the doctors, hope you're more successful :) I have checked on the internet and the 12 month wait is right, but when if we get to that point we can self-refer direct to a specialist so at least I won't have to go and beg . I think I can also self-refer to a gynae, so if I get another weird period I might look into that.

cupcakes thanks for the reassurance that it could be normal - though I don't think it was an anovulatory cycle as I got a clear temperature rise. I shall just think that my body is being very efficient and getting rid of the blood super quick so we can start on the next lot of rat-smacking

Hi brookers - happy Tuesday!

Someone asked about checking FSH levels at home - urine test: Babystart Fertilplus. They offer quite a lot of home tests. I think this is quite crude though and if you are young and haven't conceived for ages I think you need proper blood tests.

Beedle sounds shocking: get back in there and request a different doctor for a second discussion, preferably in English.

And Whimsi - sounds like you should get checked out but you may have to get the 1-year hurdle done before the NHS will respond. You are still under the magic 35 so all should be sorted for pg4.

Am off to docs myself and will brook no arguments against tests/investigations.

TTFN.

Morning Preggos,

Welcome Sweetie and Whimsical to the most lucky thread on mn!

Congrats Musical on your scan, great news

Happy belated birthday Biscuits hope you enjoyed your day of freedom

Solars how are you feeling? I'm keeping everything crossed for you. Am I right in thinking that after 19 months both Biscuits and Ninja got their BFPs?

Imps am very impressed with how your dealing with your work. I'm not surprised you feel so angry. Good for you for not letting them get away with ignoring you

And I can't believe the nerve of AF to show up at a time like this.

Beedle where do you live? On the NHS you should be allowed investigations after 6 months if you are over 35. I would be a bit at the doctor as surely she can start the ball rolling now? What is the need to wait? However just wanted to reassure that having short periods can be normal. It could be an anovulatory cycle which should happen at least once a year. My periods are generally 2 days long. I've had 2 cycles since ttc that only lasted a day, my GP says this is not necessarily anything to worry about. (I dont know if I fully believe him to be fair).

Sorry if I've missed anything, I'm in a bit of a post night shift funk. Have been sleeping in little naps every few hours since finishing work yesterday. Am so TIRED!!

Morning brookers

So I went to the GP yesterday about my weird 1 day period and she was completely unhelpful. She asked if I could be pregnant, I said I'd got a negative test that morning. She then said it could be just a random occurance, or it could be the start of the menopause , but that if it was my hormone levels wouldn't drop in a straight line but would vary up and down and so there was no point doing any tests. But she said I could come back if they stopped completely (without me being pregnant) - well won't it be a bit late by then?

She then helpfully repeated that we couldn't be referred for investigations until we've been trying for 12 months. I'm hoping that her bluntness was just due to the fact that I had asked to speak English, so she was speaking a foreign language (she couldn't remember the English for menopause) but still .

When I got home and told DP this, he said that his (completely non-medical) diagnosis was it was just due to me being stressed about not being pregnant - I think I prefer that than the menopause.

Anyway back to brooking, rat-smacking should start tomorrow but I'm away with work for 2 days so I might try for a little seducing tonight

Hello whimsical! Lovely to see so many new rat-smackers on the thread *

musical so glad your scan went well. You're having a baby! Wheee!

Hi Solars. Are you feeling a bit better now?

*Rat-smacking is so called because a poster on the first thread remarked that TTC is much like the game of 'smack the rat'. It's all in the timing...

Thanks everyone. I thought I'd broken the internet when I posted earlier, turned my computer off in a fit of pique and lost my afternoon's work. There's a lesson there about MNing at work, isn't there.

bean I'm 34. My boys are 7, 5 and 1, so I've previously conceived aged 26, 28 and 32. Never taken more than a few weeks before.

Whim, gosh I completely forgot to welcome you! Welcome to the most fecund thread in the world ever. You are automatically pregnant by joining - check out Jazzy as an example of just how true this is!

Musical, great news re: your scan - top stuff! Excellent no brooking skills!

Hi Sweetie and whimsical, welcome to the most updiffed thread on MN!

Imps - can't get over how childish your partners are! Especially considering it's not them who are on the chopping block! Loving your evil ways though - would like to join Popcorn on the evil/assertive lessons please! :D

Glad you're feeling more positive today Solars :)

Had my scan today - all went well, and a little, waving, thumb-sucking baby in there. Hurrah!

Oh Solars if only it were fun - the process is utterly draining and I'm very,very angry about it - even angrier than I was with the fruit and veg man who stole £5 from me last week (seriously, I cannot believe his barefaced cheek! Who steals a fiver from a customer and expects to get away with it??? )

I'm channelling my redundancy anger in the most positive way I can - by being as robust in my response as reasonableness will allow and, slightly more immaturely, by seeking to make the people who I hold 90% to blame for this whole situation feel as awkward as I possibly can by, you know, forcing them to acknowledge that I still exist! I guess the plotting is quite fun but it's just a coping mechanism really. I'm not worried about being made redundant - I'm just very angry about it.

Sweetie and Bean - keep on with that there brooking and that there shagging! You will have your lovely "more mature" babies before you know it.

Thanks Bean I know it is possible for us more mature ladies who still act and feel about 20 to still stand a chance. My Dr was very positive when I went to see him initially and just said our bodies have to work that bit harder so look after it (don't smoke, don't drink too much, eat healthily etc). I know quite a few friends and colleagues who have had DC with very little intervention over the age of 35 and even 40.

So I am brooking no argument at all.