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Brooking No Argument for Positive Pee Sticks, Healthy Pregnancies and Home-made Cakes!!!

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Stasi · 23/10/2011 22:51

Here we go yet again...

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Stasi · 01/11/2011 13:57

Hi everyone,

Been reading since lunch, but trying to do work and not post. Failing!

My doctor was happy to order my day 3 and 21 tests before my DP had been in to the doctors to ask about SA. Though this may have been because I told her he'd be coming in the next day. Perhaps a little white lie would serve? However if you want referral on to a specialist there are a number of check boxes they need to tick. So your DH not willing to do his part might hinder that. There are options though, you can do the sample at home, but also, if he's really stubborn, they can give you a special condom to collect the sample in, so you have sex as normal with it, but keep the condom and hand that in for analysis. I think that's mostly for religious objections, but perhaps threatening him with the thought of going to the doc and asking for one would help get him to agree to a pot at home? I'm sure you can get the pot and form from your doc without him having to go in. You could also drop the sample off at the clinic when done. I think with men it's just a very personal and embarrassing thing to go through.

I had a word with my DP this morning about his SA. He was wanting to do it on Thurs, but I'm worried it'll be too close to ovulation, and really don't want to miss out this month. So, while stark naked just before getting in the shower, I 'booked' him for SWI tonight and Thurs night, and suggested we do the sample another time. Breakfast ambush worked :)

The things we do for babies...

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ScrambledSmegs · 01/11/2011 13:56

Erm, what does 'fx' mean?

bean my DH cycles too, and doesn't do the lycra thing either. Cotton boxers all the way now. It sounds like your DP is pretty healthy anyway. Good luck!

Have been reading up about Vitamin B6. Apparently you can take up to 100mg quite safely. I'm on 50mg but was wondering whether I should up the dosage, as my LP was so ridiculously short. The website I was on also said that Clomid is often prescribed for short luteal phases as it helps to regulate them. Now than I did not know.

beangrower · 01/11/2011 13:51

maybebaby - yes Lady Luck may not be typing as we do but I feel she's hovering nearby. Ah well, then I will tell DP that we should both go for it, but I don't think I'll manage anything this side of Christmas. Poor bloke has just organised all sorts of loveliness for my 40th so I feel he deserves a little rest from my baby-gurning (other than biz as usual in the hay of course).

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 13:50

Ah super news Bean

All sounds very wise.

Now I'm wondering if your DH is a geography teacher though with his cords? Not sure why because my DH would love some nice smart casual cords but can't find anywhere that sells them in a 36, or pref 38 leg, and he's not a teacher of any sort Confused

beangrower · 01/11/2011 13:47

biscuits Loving the care and attention showered on DP's precious jewels. It has crossed my mind, but he's a boxers-only man, has showers and doesn't cycle huge distances (or wear sticky lycra - heaven forbid says he who is strictly a cords and tweed kinda fella), so fx he's not boiling his bits. Wink

possiblemaybebaby · 01/11/2011 13:46

Grin Bean our poor DHs, they don't know the half of it!

My GP referred me for my day 3 bloods (suspected PCOS but came back fine) and said that they would only carry out further investigations after a SA for DH, I think it is just NHS policy, plus it saves you from the more invasive tests if they aren't necessary. Also, your DP would just have to, ahem, 'do' his sample at home and drop it into the surgery (at my GP anyway). Hope that helps a little.

But as dear Biscuits has said, this thread has indeed proved lucky for some, and will eventually be lucky for us all Wink

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 13:42

Grin re the coming round thing Grin

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 13:42

Oh, and just one more thought Bean but you mentioned your dh cycles a lot. One of the things they say about is wearing boxers instead of briefs and not letting things get too hot down there. I don't know if that would mean that cycling in cycle shorts sort of thing could have an impact?

beangrower · 01/11/2011 13:40

Oh dear biscuits excuse the unintentional pun about my DH "coming round" to SA... Blush

beangrower · 01/11/2011 13:38

Have to say that I've tried all sorts of reverse psychology to "trick" the plumbing into a pg, so won't count on joining this thread as a guarantee but like the idea all the same.

So glad you got there. You're right, it will happen.

Let's see about SA for DP; you never know he might come round. I'll chat with the doc about me for now and see what tests I can wrangle from dear old NHS and go from there. I feel like the NHS owes me anyway: I had an indie midwife for DS and so barely saw a doc for the entire pg/birth. Plus all that tax/NI I've thrown at them all these years of not having a family.

Bless your DH; he sounds top-notch. :o

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 13:18

Ah sounds like your DH is pretty much on board then Bean.

I should say though, from what I've seen if you go to the docs, the standard tests are day 2 (or 3?) and day 21 bloods for you and a SA for him. You'd probably need that before you could get referred to a fertility clinic. Even if the referral is just for further investigations (we knew we'd never get treatment on the NHS because of already having ds).

Yes, it does seem like a struggle doesn't it! It us such a rollercoaster too Sad.

BUT you're on the brooking thread now (this is the other important factor in our story - I got my bfp the month I joined this thread Grin) so it is all going to happen!

And yes I think my DH would pale a little if he knew what I shared on here..... Smile

beangrower · 01/11/2011 13:11

Hi Biscuits

Thanks so much for your frank and full help: v much appreciated indeed (and congrats on getting there after a long wait for pg2). It sounds like a team effort for improvements which led to eventual pg2. (Bless our boys - if they knew we were online doing virtual semen analysis what would they think?!)

The good news is that DP agreed to take some vits about a month or two ago (he's v lovely but not always enjoying the frantic broody moi). The sad news is I'll never get him off his generous 1-2 Wine every night - having said that he doesn't get properly sloshed (well hardly ever), doesn't smoke, has a good diet and cycles to work most days, though I do wonder whether I should be putting cotton wool round his saddle... : ) He's also a very laid back sort and in general doesn't strike me as a likely candidate for probs. I really can't see him going to the docs to give a sample so am keeping myself in check for now.

You have given me hope that it is worth plodding on - sometimes I just want to give up, throw in the towel and take up handgliding (well, maybe not) but you know what I mean.

x

ScrambledSmegs · 01/11/2011 13:02

Hello! Maybe JUST PIAR!!! WOMAN UP!!!

I think you should show your DP that site, far. Might concentrate his mind on the job in hand Grin. I think someone I know vaguely may have had an arrangement re: sperm. Could well have been off the internet. Baby's absolutely gorgeous.

Biscuits, you poor love. Keep hydrated and get loads of rest. Get well soon xx

I know I've missed people, sorry, but I'm exhausted. DD woke me at 3am with screams of 'MUMMY'. Of course I ran in, terrified she was being attacked by ravening zombies only to find... she was bored and wanted to play. Seriously, I have never been less amused by my toddler holding up her toy dog in my face and saying woof. And then I couldn't get back to sleep again as I was so adrenalised.

Re: mooncups. Yes, you do have to empty them out into the toilet and either wash or wipe them. However, it's surprisingly non-yucky. I've been using it for a couple of days now and find it much more comfortable than tampons, which I had a major problem with after DD remodelled the place on her way out. If you've got any questions you can ask the experts who've been really helpful on the thread

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 12:58

Hi Bean - lovely to meet you. I suspect you're the first person who I'll have discussed my DH's sperm with in the first 'meeting' GrinGrin

I'm nipping in from the grads thread, but have read your earlier post. I would say re your dh's sperm it can't hurt to take a conception vitamin for him. We have ds who is 3 now. We got pg with him the third month of trying. Prior to that we'd got pg the second mth of trying but sadly had a m/c. So we weren't really anticipating any delays this time round. We started ttc no 2 when ds was 15 mths and it took us 19 mths!

Now, after a year we were referred to the fertility clinic, with the 'standard' tests. My blood tests came back ok but dh's SA showed reduced motility (whereas I assume there were no issue before? We'll never know as he wasn't checked before). Anyway, in due course the fertility clinic did a repeat SA for DH, which was about 3 mths after the first. During this time he had given up pepsi and started taking wellman conception (already didn't smoke at all, or drink v much). And his second SA was normal.

At the sane time as that the fertility clinic sent me for a HSG which didn't show any probs but you never really know if has cleared a bit of muck out.

We got pg the month after the HSG, but also within 3 mths of dh's improved SA.

Now we'll never know what the real cause was. Maybe it was the sperm, or a blockage subsequently cleared by the HSG, or a combination of both. Or maybe his first SA was just 'unlucky' as they often say you can't rely on one sample, and there wasn't really a problem there in the first place?

So quite possibly for your DH there won't be a problem, but I think it can't harm to try a male conception vit to give everything a helping hand if it is taking longer than expected.

We used the wellman conception one (well we actually bought the pregnacare his and hers but it's the same thing) but I know lots of people gave looked at just certain components if it and I'm sure someone who who knows more can advise on that.

Hope that helps anyway xx

possiblemaybebaby · 01/11/2011 12:55

Ah, Jazzy I am keeping everything crossed for you Smile

possiblemaybebaby · 01/11/2011 12:55

Bean! Welcome and many happy returns for tomorrow Smile I am afraid I know nothing about sperm, well, you know, apart from the obvious!

Popcorn get the 30 day shred. Very good. Though I can't see how I am ever going to be able to prance around my lounge without having my ankles bitten Hmm or, go for a nice run outside. Can't beat it Smile

Solars was it you who stole my buttons? I am resisting any urges to POAS. Though I did just bawl my eyes out at some helicopter rescue program Blush

beangrower · 01/11/2011 12:54

fx indeed jazzy

jazzy283 · 01/11/2011 12:52

WOW thanks everyone for the warm welcome and im loving the fact i have chosen to join the best thread, fx af has still not arrived and im on cd 30 i got my earlier figures wrong checked my book last night and im 11dpo dohhhhh AF would of normally arrived yesterday so im still fx but not obsessing so gonna wait till end of week before i even get my hopes up lol lol

Im looking through thread so hope to pick up bits of whats happening on here lol :)

DH has called the Dr today and made an appointment for nxt week for us to get a sperm analysis just incase af dont stay away :(

beangrower · 01/11/2011 12:43

Now on a slightly more serious note but still on the subject of the white stuff - any anecdotes to reassure/alarm re' my fella's contribution to this procreating lark? EG - the wrigglers were on top form 2.5 years ago and DP is still a mere 42 - so should it still be swimming for England (and Wales in our case)? Just wondering...

farfallarocks · 01/11/2011 12:13

Ooooh zumba is brilliant, I do it at the gym occasionally.
You need a lot of space though I think

Maybe I will threaten DH tonight with a bonk or its nordic sperm.

Biscuitsandtea · 01/11/2011 12:12

Does the pussycat doll workout involve Lewis Hamilton at all?

PopcornMouse · 01/11/2011 12:11

Shock You can buy sperm? I feel so naive......

I currently have Bollyrobics, Zumba, Tracy Anderson, Island Girl (hula) dance fitness & the pussycat dolls workout in my cart, need to whittle it down.............. Blush

Solars · 01/11/2011 12:07

I love the fact it seems so simple with asking how many units you want and then 'add to cart'

I may go for the Irish, English, Slavic, Cherokee Indian with blue eyes and brown hair!

farfallarocks · 01/11/2011 12:03

Site even

farfallarocks · 01/11/2011 12:02

I think we could have fun with this sight, I quite like the sound the dutch/italian/danish one with light brown hair and blue eyes. Grin

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