IVF/ICSI Hand holding

blacktreacle I am positive you will get a BFP, I have read that a hatching blasto is like the holy grail of IVF.

I have just listened to one of my Andrew Johnson self hypnosis apps on my iPhone and feel a lot more relaxed and positive now. If it doesn't work, then it was never meant to be. I think my worrying had given me an upset stomach which makes a nice change from the trapped wind but prob not much good for little blastie either so I am now determined to relax! And maybe download Doris Day's Que Sera Sera from iTunes...

People get bfps from 2 cell day 2 embies! That it made blast at all is really good. Try and stay positive. Says me - testing tomorrow and already planning our FET and "we're not pregnant" Christmas escape holiday!

I've really upset myself now - my husband asked the embryologist what grade our blasto was and I didn't really understand it at the time but have now looked it up and we only have a 3BB - this isn't good as nothing below this will be frozen. If only one of the 14 has made it to that to be transferred, I doubt we'll get any frozen. The embryologist wants to take them to day 6 but I'm feeling really down and disappointed and convinced that our 'fair' quality blast probably won't work now :(

Congratulations on being pupo. I've read that as long as they make blast on day 6 it is still ok. Our frosties were blasts on day 5 but not as advanced as the one that was transferred. They were frozen on day 6.
Just had a bill for 450 for the freezing actually.
Feel a bit more positive today but not much and still expecting/ preparing for a bfn tomorrow. I would feel happier if my boobs hurt.

Back from the hospital, transfer over and done with. Only one had got to blasto by this morning (day 5 had only just started so this is apparently ok) so that one got transferred. It wasn't top grade but was one grade down from top and the embryologist seems to think that will still be ok.
The others are a wide range of qualitys, some good, some ropey so they will only know tomorrow whether we get to freeze any.

I was so nervous going in but the procedure really wasn't bad at all, they had to get me to do some calming breathing though!

All in all it isn't the perfect outcome but it isnt bad and I'm sure good quality blastos can still do well can't they?

Thanks pink, still got bad gastro problems but windeze has helped a bit and I managed to get out for a walk today which blew away the cobwebs. Have just had dinner so hoping it won't bloat me up again now...

Hi everyone, got another phonecall from the embryologist. No more of the 14 have dropped out, but 4 are a stage behind. 10 are on course to reach blastocyst tomorrow, our ET will be tomorrow morning. They can't grade them till tomorrow when they reach blasto, so not sure if we will get any to freeze yet but fingers crossed.

Was so nervous I felt sick for the hour before the phonecall, I made DH take it!

Thank you for answering my question, Im going to ask for care nottingham but I dont know what the dr will say.

Its so unfair, they ought to fund on results. Why send people to clinics who have such low success rates?.

Burton is not my first choice at all.

clo so sorry to hear that. I too was in awful pain with the pesaries between EC and ET. I ended up putting them in my behind and the pain was much better. After ET I was able to put them up the front and no pain! I think it's because your insides are in a bit of trauma aftter EC and I Think it's normal to feel the pain you are in. Horrid tho - I know only too well...
Zb

Only two more days blacktreacle, it'll be worth waiting till the weekend at least.

I am in quite a lot of pain, but it's not from my OHSS I don't think - its from the excruciating trapped wind! I've never felt anything like it - it wakes me up groaning every night and I can't yawn, laugh or cough properly because of it. I'm bent double at the moment over my hot water bottle. I know when people start using the front entrance it eases - I hope this is the case, but I'm not allowed to till after ET. I am worried that ET is going to hurt because there can't be much room in there what with super-sized ovaries and gas filled intestines!

Sorry to moan so much, I feel like a right misery and I know it's all potentially for a good cause, I'm just feeling really fed up and tired after another disturbed sleep :(

blacktreacle it's sooo hard just waiting isn't it's the longest days ever... Think all those symptoms are v normal... Good luck on Sunday and until then keep busy busy busy.
Zb x

Hi it is 14 days post EC now and I feel so scared. Really think it is a bfn. No symptoms at all except a bit of pink/ brown discharge sometimes and occasional tummy cramps. No breast tenderness or anything. Really wish I could just test and be out of my misery but trying to hold out until Sunday.
How is everyone else? Cloclo how is your ohss?
Xxx

Hi Fluffy

I was automatically referred to our nearest centre in West Yorks which act as a satellite clinic but actual treatment is at Manchester CARE, however we received horrible treatment at our referral which meant my DH doesn't want to return there. Through patient choice we are now referred to Jessop's Sheffield which I researched through HFEA and other forums. There should be no problem still getting our funding from our PCT but time has yet to tell

evening ladies,

haven't been on for a while as been very busy at work.

we had our initial consultation today at The Lister and it's all go for long protocol on day 21 (10 days time - eek!).

left there with the down regging spray but need to get the other drugs from my satellite clinic where I will have scans.

it all seems very real now we've started handing over the dosh, really hoping it all goes well as we should get the results just before Xmas

Hi Fluffy. In theory patients have choice in reality most PCTs have preferred providers and in some cases will only fund to those places. In South Staffs default is to Burton but actually there are a few choices so check with GP or even the PCT. Check out the HFEA site and if you have a preferred choice ask your gp if you can go there if declined you can always ask the PCT but do not get hopes too high. Best of luck

Hi all

Hi fluffy, we were referred to the CRM in Coventry after a dodgy blood test and they diagnosed our problem so it was assumed we would have treatment there. We went from diagnosis to treatment in less than 3 months. I don't think there is anywhere else in this PCT that provides the service. You might have more options if based elsewhere maybe.

Hi fluffy and welcome to our lovely thread...
Re gps.. We live in Clapham in london and our gp just said that Guys in London bridge was where we would be going. I think it's all about where your borough will fund you to go?
good luck
zb

Hello ladies, I havent posted on here before but I had an IVF specific question. When your gp ref you for NHS treatment did you get a choice of clinics? our pct still funds one cycle so I want to go to a clinic with a good success rate.

blacktreacle hang on in there, you had a really good quality blasto transferred and I'm sure people get PG with colds all the time, just take care of yourself and make sure DH is waiting on you hand and foot :)

I am feeling a little more upbeat now DH has come home, I missed him today because he has looked after me so well. Mum and dad are coming up to stay for a few days tomorrow so hopefully that will take my mind off things a bit.

I have so much marking/schoolwork to do and can't face any of it yet as I feel so rough, think I might have to have a go in the morning though or I'll have a terrible backlog!

I wasn't really told about the grades on day 2/3, just how many had dropped out. Taking them to blastocyst will give you a greater chance. If an embryo doesn't reach blast in the lab, it wouldn't have in you either. The culture media and incubators are very good now. With that many embryos going to blast will mean you get the best one transferred and you may well still get frosties. We managed 2 blast frosties and we only had 8 left at day 3 and we had PGS to weed them out further.
I am starting to go mad now wondering if it has worked and am really worried this awful cold will ruin our chance.

Thanks zeebee - I know I'm probably panicking prematurely but it's hard when you get given information like that and you don't really know what to do with it as you have nothing to say what will/won't work etc

Hiya clo - not sure re stimming = less quality - i've never heard of that and believe me i've read A LOT of books (as i'm sure you have)
The embryos are amazing and so seem to divide very quickly in the final stages - well thats what seemed to happen for us. we weren't told what "grades" they were - so perhaps you are getting more info that you actually need to know (if you KWIM!) all you can do is keep positive - have you got any relaxation tecniques you can do before transfer? I found that really helped - i was a pent up headless chicken the morning of my transfer - deep breaths are the way forward I think.... good luck you will be fine.... don't worry.
xx

Hi zeebee I think we will only be allowed to put one back.

Just had a phone call from the embryologist and I'm a little bit disappointed, though obviously we have a way to go. 4 of the 18 haven't gone on to divide. Of the 14 remaining, of six grades there is only one grade 1 (excellent) quality, 7 grade 2 (good) and the rest grade 3 (average). I was really hoping we might get more better quality - are these grades normal?

They are getting put away till Friday afternoon now to get to blasto stage. I'm starting to think we might not get anything to freeze at all, and also feel a little upset as I'm wondering if the fact they stimmed me to produce so many eggs has affected the quality? :/

Clo POOOR you.... sounds like a rough old ride you and your ovaries are on!
Is your Embryo transfer sill set for Saturday? It's amazing how ones insides seem to recover fairly quickly after each stage they've been through!
Have you decided how many you will put back?

I had to collect more delightful pessaries formt he hosp this morning... i must say I am pretty used to stuffing them up now!! It's funny because I think I can feel my uterus shape changing each time i insert them - sorry definately TMI there!!!! ...defiantely constipated and then - like someone amusingly descibed on here - feel like i'm giving birth when I finally go!!!

ANYway --- we have our first scan booked for 10th Nov - where we might - if all goes to plan (FINGERS CROSSED) see the little heartbeat/s - it will be week 7 by then!

Waves to all
ZB