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Icky McIck. Oh well, as you say Pink, they've seen it all before, but still bit gross. Something about periods for me that are oddly super-personal somehow! They've not got back to me today, so I guess it's on Friday now. Hope I'm still going by then, as I have dodgy short periods of around 24-36 hours. Fingers crossed for you that the wait isn't too hideous. To take your mind off things, I've just been reading on MN a great thread about how to tie your scarf in a million different ways. V interesting and I recommend. x

Morning all from a lovely sunny Autumny Borders. How's everyone? Clo, how are you feeling? Blackcat, went to endodontist yesterday who has popped me to to the top of her list for a root canal at hideous expense asap. They were lovely there though, so feel much more confident that it'll be fixed now.

AF has arrived with a fanfare this morning, so off for a scan either tomorrow or Friday. My periods are super-short, so they want me in asap. Gross question, but do I actually get scanned while, er bleeding? . Is that what happened with others? I guess I thought I was scanned when it was over...v icky. Sorry if TMI.

Hope everyone is well and having a good uneventful week iyswim!

Waves and waggles to all, x

Clo am sorry to hear your news. It's definitely worth asking lots of questions at your follow-up appointment but all this might not matter if your little blasto does the trick.

The pregnancy rate for blastos is really high so little clo could be busy dividing away right now - especially as we're all waggling for him/her! And ICSI should circumvent all but the most severe sperm problems. Sending you some (((hugs)))

Hi Pink, thanks for your reply.

What I'm worried about is that it might be down to the sperm since they all stopped growing after day four. We are going through this anyway because of DH's poor count, morphology and motility - I was hoping that ICSI would bypass this, but after researching last night why this could have happened it might be down to bad DNA which you can't tell from appearance. Apparently men with Type 1 diabetes are likely to have more DNA fragmentation.

I am so scared that we will go through this again and end up with nothing to transfer. I'm also terrified that even if we do get a BFP with this one, it will probably miscarry. I keep thinking that if you had a set of 14 TVs and 13 didn't work properly, you wouldn't have much faith in the other one not going wrong soon :(

Just found out that of the 14 still alive on day 4, only one more other than the one we transferred made it to blasto and it wasn't good enough to freeze. I am so devastated. I'm sure there must be something really wrong to go from 31 eggs to only one blasto :( so upset

Glad the codeine has helped MrsMiggins - it's strong stuff, as I discovered last week!
I will be back at work tomorrow so hoping that year 11 will take it easy on me! To be fair, all my classes are quite good this year, can't complain :) Going to struggle to muster the energy to teach them this week though.

I have already convinced myself that my 'above average' blasto has not worked and have started planning when we will have our next cycle in my head already. I have read that overstimulation can affect egg quality, so I'm hoping that next time they might be able to reduce my dose, leave me in less pain and perhaps get fewer better quality embies.

I am also kind of kicking myself that I didn't ask for two to be transferred. The embryologist/consultant never once suggested it, and even though no others had reached blasto by that morning I'm sure they could have put in a morula. I don't really feel like I've taken enough control over all the decisions, but it's all such a whirlwind you just seem to get swept along :/

Hello all, Happy Hallowe'en! Have spent a happy morning baking cupcakes for the kids at school and faffing about with pumpkin lights etc! Love it [hgrin]. Tedious tooth update: spoke to the specialists and they had a cancellation, so am going in tomorrow after I said how much pain I've been in. It really is the worst (and I've had a lot of surgery). Trouble is, I was meant to have the treatment last month, but my normal chap couldn't numb me enough, so have to now go private and get special endodontist to fix instead [hshock] V good news thanks Blacktreaclecat about codeine though. Hurrah for opiates...! Hope everyone's well today and really pleased CloClo that you're feeling much better today. What a relief!

Sending waves, hugs and witch-decorated cupcakes to all. x

Morning everyone,

Since I wasn't actually breathless, just hurting, I decided to risk it to today and not go to the hospital. I'm so glad I did - I feel so much better today. I'm not A1 yet and decided to wait till tomorrow to go back to work, but my bloating has subsided, the pain is much less, I can stand upright again and this is the closest to normal I've felt in about two week :)

MrsMiggins I hope you have been to the dentist this morning?

Yay blacktreacle! Lovely news.

clo and mrsm hope you are both feeling better soon x.

Care Notts have pretty good success rates. Better than Leeds. That is partly why we have travelled 120 mile round trip to all appts! Also we wanted the array cgh.
Mrsmiggins - dentist in the morning! I'm a dentist - I would advise you get it sorted before you start stimming. I had hideous period pain and rang my clinic- once stimming they aren't keen on NSAIDs like ibuprofen but you can have codeine.
Cloclo- if you aren't better tomorrow contact your clinic and get checked out.
Xxx

mrsmiggins poor you dental pain is just so horrid and all consuming. Hope you can get your tooth sorted hugs

blacktreacle fantastic news congratultions heres wighing you a very boring 40 weeks. I know you will be stressing but keep doing what you have been. Hope you have had a great day.
marmite I will be just behind you start dr on 10 when do they roughly expect to transfer I cannot quite wirk it out in my head
fluffy so are you in staffs area then? We are at Care Notts to be honest I should have looked at figures more carefully but I loked more at where I could get to in a sensible time.
clo hope you have got checked out and are feeling better.

To all I hope the rest I hope you have had as good a weekend as us. nothing really special just being with friends great but had some guilty today.

If it was me, and I'd felt as bad as you did, I'd go and get checked at hospital, just to be on the safe side. Really hope you're feeling better by the time you read this, and are having a nice Sunday evening. But don't take anything to chance and get checked out if in doubt!

Tooth is hideous and eventually cracked and took brufen this afternoon which has helped a lot. Wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy! Still no sign of AF, but sure she's on the way soon as feel ick this evening.

Anyhoo, happy Sunday all
x

Sorry to hear about your tooth MrsMiggins, I've never had toothache like that but my friend has and I know he was in agony. My AF was several days late - in fact I had only just started when I had my baseline scan.

I'm in a bit of a quandary. A lot of the horrible trapped wind/bloating has gone down today (woke up in the night in pain with it but have done that every night since EC). Trouble is, last night and today I have started getting a really tight feeling in my chest, like there is a pressure on it and it makes me cough when I'm walking around. Also, when I bend down to pick something up, I almost get a feeling of movement in there.

I know shortness of breath can be a sign that my mild OHSS may have developed further, but I'm still peeing fine, my bloating if anything has gone down, and I don't know if I can face another four hours in the ward waiting room if it is nothing. However at ET yesterday my consultant emphasised that I should look out for symptoms and get them checked out as I am at high risk.

Any advice? Anyone here had OHSS? What should I do?

Congratulations Blacktreaclecat. Really wonderful news and I'm thrilled for you. Haven't been able to say hello recently as was away and couldn't use iphone well to post. But have been thinking of you all and sending waves. My news is that the first week of buselerin jags have been fine actually. Immediately afterwards, I get super-itchy at the site, so have been putting an ice pack on. I've also had chronic backache and cramps at times, but apart from that, so far, so normal PMS symptoms, which is good. I think I'm due my period soon, but apparently, they can come late when on deregs...has that been other people's experience? I'm now day 29 and counting...

My tooth however, has been HORRENDOUS and by far the worst thing. I'm due a big root canal soon, but it's really been agony. I had to ring the clinic to check it was ok to take Nurofen, which they said was ok-ish, but they would prefer paracetemol if possible...so will battle on but not much fun at all.

Hope everyone has a great Hallowe'en and a good sticky lucky week [hsmile].

x

Hi all, been away in the country for half term bit of rest & relaxation. Have to phone the clinic tomorrow to organise a date for FET!! Very apprehensive after the last ET was unsuccessful!

Congrats blacktreaclecat xx

Don't think they'll ring us today cos of it being Sunday, though I know they are in today to freeze what they can. They didn't actually tell us how they would let us know, but I heard them tell other people when we were getting EC that they would get a letter in the post. So a few days to wait I suppose.

Are you doing anything nice to celebrate?

They rang us on day 6 to tell us about our frosties. You should get the same? Otherwise I'd ring and ask for embryology?
Thanks all. Still can't believe it!

clo sorry I'm wrong in fact 2nd trimester in 7 weeks (Not 3!!) obviously wishing the weeks away a little bit quickly!!
keep positive about your embies.. Fingers x that they have progressed nicely overnight.

Zb

Congrats blacktreacle, I'm so happy for you, I have my fingers firmly crossed that everything will be alright with this one. As I say, with a hatching blasto on day 5 it will definitely be a strong little fella so I think you have every chance.

Zeebee, can't believe you have only three weeks till you are in second trimester, time really flies doesn't it?

I am wondering how my little embies are doing today at the clinic and if any of them will get frozen, as I think we will need them. If none of them can be I'll be a bit upset as it doesn't say a lot for the quality of our combined eggs/sperm when we still had 14 alive on day 4 :/ I don't think we will find out now until they send us a letter.

blacktreacle congratulations on your BFP!!! Amazing news! So pleased for you being pupo! It will be a stressie 1st trimester - god I'm living each day praying I don't go to the loo and see any blood.... Roll on the next 3 weeks until 2nd trimester starts.
Have a wonderful day and I hope you are celebrating somewhere today!
clo congrats on the ET - glad it wasn't to painful. I find all those relaxation tapes etc are so helpful...
Waves to everyone else
zb

Well cloclo you were right. Can't quite believe it but BFP!
We are stunned and so happy. We have had 2 losses including a termination for Downs and heart problems in March so the first trimester will be pretty stressful. We know more than 90% that the chromosomes are normal this time. Fingers crossed!
Xxxx