TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

free it depends on what you really want from an early scan. I think you're pretty much on all the drugs that Mr S can throw at anyone. I'm not sure what he could add to that if a bean was slow-growing. If it's important for you to track the progress of this pg in the early weeks, perhaps to identify at what stage things seem to go wrong then take the 6+4 scan and book another at 8 weeks. If you just want to hold out for as long as possible because you know early scanning can't change the outcome then I suggest waiting till 8 weeks.

ari so sorry you're not feeling very confident. Is this your first pg on the treatment? If so then you will definitely feel different. The steroids really do mask the symptoms in some women. I had no nausea, boob heaviness didn't start till 6-7 weeks and no tiredness. I had a week at 5 weeks of feel light-headed, and when that left I felt completely normal. Put the pee sticks away as they are clearly not helping to reassure you. Wait for the hcg blood tests. It's shite that the results take ages, but when you get perfectly fine results there will be even more waiting after that. Free is right, you need to take this one day at a time. Now have some ((((((((((hugs))))))))))

snoopy could first crumbly batch of flapjacks make a nice granola?

comedy very pleased to hear of more good scan news! And how lovely that bean is measuring ahead. Mine was spot on for 13 and 15 week scan, but had gained 5 days for 17 week scan. And had been off the pred for a while by then.

We're back home now. Had a lovely relaxing time. Wish I could have been more active and gone for more bike rides but found that an afternoon rest made the world of difference with my spd, practically disappeared overnight.

We have the neighbours over for lunch tomorrow and am doing beef stew with dumplings followed by trifle (fat emoticon). Sunday - hoping dh will sort out the un-wallpapered patch in ds's room that has needing painting since he was about 6 months. I may start sorting out some of the kitchen cupboards - have slowly been trying to get a little more organised with our storage if we're to make room for nappies, bottles, muslins, steriliser, breastpump...Still hoping to get a front porch built before March so coats, shoes and buggy can be stored there rather than in living room (no hall in this house).

have to confess.. I could be typing whilst "under the influence". Had today off too.. had a new cooker delivered and some friends for lunch. One with 3 kids under 5 (makes me want to bow down and kiss the ground when she leaves as I HAVE NO IDEA HOW SHE DOES IT.. and the one who has 2 weeks to go. Remember I mentioned her a few weeks back. ANYWAY, since they left about 4pm I have had a few wines whilst making the marinade for my stifado (hhaa) for tomorrow nights birthday MURDER MYSTERY. Based in Casablanca in 1942. Can't wait. Will tell you all how it goes next week.

We don't know each other in RL... and am sure we are all quite different etc. blaa.. but what we've been/going through creates a bond that is pretty unexplainable. The T'INTERNET is to thank for the this.

Ari.. nothing any of us mortals can say or do will make you feel any better.. but you have us with you. Not much of a consolation, but you won't have to go through anything alone anymore. Here's hoping for ALL OF US on here you won't have to. x

Free.. you inspire me.

Kittens too.. v strong.
All of you to be honest, so many ridiclious internet posts on the web and this thread has actually made my life different these past few weeks since I discovered it.

Must log off as is only 6.45pm so a bit embarassing to be a bit pissed so early.. DH on his way home, hoping for some food, but instead I've opened another bottle of wine and some pretzels. How proud he will be.

lots of love ladies.. we should pat ourselves on the back. STRONG WOMEN.. all of us.
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SHOUTING AT YOU ARI! A big transatlantic shout. You hang onto your appointment and please, lets just all try to take every day as it comes.

DH works in the very sensitive areas of counselling and also disability (both, but separately) and it is often difficult for him to change appointments. But he might be able to do so on the Thursday and I really think I need to get him to do that. I know he doesn't want to let people and he does realise this is very important and I need to tell him that week 7 really is the ideal time to get this sorted out. If something is not seen at week 7, in my experience so far (ie crazy doctor googling after last time) there really is little chance it is going to go well.

Of course there is always the chance that the non-growth of my last mc was 'just one of those things' and unrelated to nkc but I have my doubts.

Hi free If i get a positive I will be 6 weeks the day we go on Dec 15th, so would have to be scanned 5+6 which seems hit and miss and could be a nightmare not knowing before going on hols. But I have seen a heartbeat on the cusp of 6 weeks, feb this yr.(the first hb I ever got). If I was you I would go at 6+4 like you say in case they can adjust any drugs. I would also have to have DH with me and put my foot down for him to get off work but that's easy 4 me to say as I know he can if he really needs to.
I don't know what your OH's job is like for that so difficult to say. It's not the sort of thing you really want a relative or friend to come, you want your other half there really don't you..

Rather at your domestic skills Snoopy, even though your flapjacks are crumbly. I have been known to have to give DH a call at work if I need to switch the oven on!

Having a bit of a giggle at your 'what has made your face swell' comments from the children Comedy. Oh dear! Don't worry it is all temporary :) My moonface went down completely by 5 weeks post 40mg Pred. Of course I wasn't still pregnant at that point but the Pred bloat is definitely temporary.

I am having a bit of a scan dilemma that I am hoping you can all help me with.

The only date for a scan appointment that suits Mr S and DH at the moment is Saturday 3rd Dec. I am a bit reluctant to take this one though as it would only put me at 6.4 and I still worry that will be too early. Of course I worry that nothing will show at all like last time but 7 weeks should be better than 6.4 shouldn't it?

The trouble is DH is not free at all of week 7 so then it might be 8 weeks! The good thing about 8 weeks is that if there is something growing it will definitely be there, but one worry is what if they had been able to see something going wrong before that and potentially save it with drug adjustments or something. Mr S told me about times he has seen a slow heartbeat and adjusted things to try to address that, hence it is important to be scanned early. But I just don't want to be scanned too early. Of course I could always go along on my own but I am really not sure about that, for important appointments such as scans. Happy to do it for normal appointments, intralipids etc.

What does everyone think? Go at 6.4 and risk an inconclusive scan or wait until 8 weeks? Or just insist that DH cancels people and makes time at 7 weeks.

We are finishing tiling our porch that we have just built, which is about third from last job to finish our house.....yee haa. Life and finances may actually start to resemble some sort of normality from Jan. Working every weekend for 2.5 yrs will seem like a distant memory....until i feel another project coming on!
Might try and squeeze a cycle ride in with DS & OH Sun morning, been stuffing my face stupid this week for some reason, so could do with working off some pounds.
Just made second lot of flapjacks..1st lot crumbled to pieces, second attempt is gonna break someones teeth and greaseproof paper completly stuck to it. Why am I so useless at baking . (Slummy mummy must try harder and read recipe)!!

Just caught up with thread - am really sorry ari for what you're going though - it s such a horrible feeling and it goes without saying that my fingers are tightly crossed for you and hopefully those hcg levels will show something positive.

Happy belated birthday Duggs!

Thank you all for the scan comments. I do feel like it's going to work now - I hope this feeling lasts longer than the usual 24 hrs post scan!
It's quite strange that this little one has grown 2 weeks five days in two weeks I'm wondering if ne pred leads to larger babies?

The drugs are certainly leading to a larger mother - Iggi I know your dates are similar to mine - how big are you if it's not too rude a question?! Someone recently thought I mystery be twenty weeks plus and a child at school asked me what had made my face swell - got to love working with children!!

Loving the idea of the wood burners! So cosy for winter.

Comedy that is amazing news about the scan! Such a milestone.

Puree it is so good to hear that you had cramps etc with successful pregnancy. Any other folk with tales of cramps and weird feelings do keep them coming, so us first timers have something positive to compare to!

Cheerful, yes the vitamin list seems spot on. I added Selenium this time. Not sure why really, just thought I would give it a go. Good you have your scan dated sorted. Maybe we should start putting our scan dates into the list?

Choccy and others, I am with you about not feeling pregnant. I have some mild cramping this morning. And then when I do feel something I of course start mentalling. I have a mild bit of nausea later in the daytime at the moment.


I am trying to sort out a scan by email now. I know he likes to see us first at week 6/7 but I really can't face that whole round of inconclusive scans again. I think I would rather wait until week 7 and if I don't see anything then I will assume it is all definitely going wrong again. That's if it doesn't obviously go wrong before that! Week 6 is w/c28th and week 7 is w/c 5th Dec. It doesn't feel like much fun being Pregnant Me at the moment. Real Life Me however is having a lot of fun, so I guess I can't complain. Actually went out last night with my brother and his girlfriend to a really swish Sushi place in Hollywood. All cooked of course for me. Then we went to the Sky Bar at the Mondrian. All very lovely and was pleased to stay up until midnight (jetlag finally going).

Ari - Battery and the others are right. You have no reason to think this pregnancy is going wrong yet and see how many other people have got faint lines and gone on to have babies! I would probably be with you actually, if I had had another stick to pee on, but being here in the states I haven?t had any more and just used that one faint one too. But we are pregnant! Whether we will stay that way or not is another thing of course.

Snoopy yes it can be madness going over all the 2ww symptoms can?t it!! I think I can definitely tell now, when I am getting pregnant, but always tell myself I am imagining things. But there are certain things you just can?t imagine ? feelings and movements you just don?t get when you are not being impregnated. I too think we get used to the Pred. And 40mg never seems to make it particularly worse. On that subject, I hope you get your info Kittens about what the treatment change might be, but the others are right the 40mg only kicks in at a BFP so you will be ok for a couple of weeks.

CD32 for me today, or technically 4.3 based on a CD29 BFP. Aggh! Such a head f*ck this whole thing.

cocnut it's ok - I got it wrong too :) it was brownie - I have my Friday brain on.

snoopy I know - DP can not wait to light the thing....all week I have heard ' I can't wait to light the fire' over and over and over .....:)

log burners are brilliant! we put one i when we did the house last yr and they chuck out so much heat, OH and i sit there with ruddy faces most nights sweating! And it def brings out their caveman instincts of needing to light fires...he just can't stop fiddling or poking it!

Oh, Sorry Battery. And sorry it was to whoever asked!!

Log burner sounds great. We've just got a normal open fire. I'd definitely think about getting a burner installed in our next place if we've got the space.

Wtf??? Fecking iPhone.

Ahem

Meant to say "blah blah blah... Luckily for me. "

Co ordination is shite today- is that another symptom I should be happy about??!

TFIF!

Not me with the clexane don't (want to) know about injections luckily f

ari I will if I can peel the cat away from in front of it! She seems to have clicked on what its for and has taken up residence in front of it with a look that says 'move me if you dare'

Afternoon everyone :)

coconut - It wasn't me asking - it was choccy I think. I do inject though (when pg) and agree with you - I go for anywhere that is not bruised, some days that means injecting on the same side a couple of days in a row. Don't inject on the belt line though - and don't rub it after! Or you will bruise like hell!
kittens I found the forum a bit annoying really. All the questions we asked - she just replied 'I cover that in my 12 week programme'...... It was me asking about the lining but she didn't answer. I also asked her about stress following your question to prompt her into answering you. The way forward?....eat sprouts apparantly!
ari That is annoying for you. But today you are pregnant until someone says otherwise. I do get annoyed when practices say they won't get the results for a few days - at my practice they can get them back the same day or the day after if they ring for them. I realise not every practice is the same though.
snoopy I hate being in the middle of the 2ww - it drives me mad!
charlie I was asking about womb lining - I have heard that about viagra but I don't think I can persuade my gp to prescribe viagra!!

Hope everyone else is ok - and gearing up for the weekend :)

We have had a log burner fitted and we are having its first lighting tonight :)

Oh Ari, I'm so sorry to hear that things are no clearer for you today. How frustrating that you have to wait so long for the results. Have you got anything distracting planned for the weekend to help it pass any quicker? The limbo state is just painful isn't it. My fingers are tightly crossed for you that the outcome is a good one.

Battery You asked about the clexane injections. I try to alternate sides but do still find that one side is less painful than the other one for some reason. I had some horrible bruising at the beginning and I think I may have been injecting a bit too high up. Since I've been doing it lower down (level with belly button or slightly below) it seems better. Although it could just be that my technique has improved slightly.

Hello everyone,

Hope you are well ..just on the test kits ari that is a good price and on the point just ordered myself some more pregnacare with omega 3 and boots are 14.99 and a few places a couple of pounds cheaper but I have mine coming from Amazon today for £6.13 with free p+p! I know the high st has overheads to pay but that mark up is a joke. Moan over.

I have the cheap One step sticks -they are great for obsessive testing and one cb digi preg test left so will try not to waste that one by testing too early.

My pred experience so far is not too bad. Sunday when I took first one was weird, heart racing and shortness of breath and 3 hrs sleep but body seems to have got over shock and sleep since then not too bad if I take the tab before 8am. In fact sleep is quite deep actually apart from waking up at 5.30ish most days then dosing off again. DS didn't help by waking at 5.30 as well and playing with the alarm on repeat!

ari i feel for you having to wait till next week try to keep yourself busy sweetie.x
comedy I bet you are feeling good after your scan, well done.
kittens glad your feeling easier for now, you don't need that stress on top of everything else.

I am 7dpo today and don't know what to do with myself iykwim. It's that finger tapping stage. You just can't help with the symptom spotting, it's impossible when you been prgegnant that many times. You are tuned into everything. Sometimes I wish I could unscrew my head and put it somewhere else!!

Yay Comedy fab news! :)

Hello everyone else! Ari how you doing? Keep smiling :)

Someone asked about scan dates - My first scan's booked for 3 Dec assuming all still looks well at that point (yes slap me now!). That would will be 6+2, poss not enough to see anything? Didn't see more than a sac at dead on 6wks before.

Felt awful last night. Out for work and had a couple of diet cokes and some chips and thought I was gonna throw up by the time I got home. V dizzy and nauseous. Not had that before was horrible! Maybe my stomach was too empty and with nothing to do it thought its have some fun? Forced down some cereal with the vits and aspirin and felt better. Got indigestion cramps this morning which is also fun. Odd bit of achy back too but I get that at times anyway.

I don't feel pg as such but keep telling myself I shouldn't expect to with the Pred - but can at least say I'm officially late now as af was due yesterday. Little steps...