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TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

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Arianrhod · 18/10/2011 09:55

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

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iggi999 · 31/10/2011 18:56

Duggs, to complete your piechart Grin I conceived this one on the second cycle. The older I get the quicker it is, strangely (ds was my first pg and took 7 months).

batteryhen · 31/10/2011 18:52

hello everyone :0

Interesting reading about siblings and how many children to have. Ideally I would have wanted 2 but I would settle for one just now! Twins would be fab.

Does Mr S make you have a break after 6 months on the pred then? I am on my second cycle but have not been back to see him as we have just moved house and financially we are a bit strapped, but I am concerned I should go and see him soon. ......maybe I should wait and see what happens with this cycle??

Talkingof which - I have now OV'd and am knackered. Literally. Should I update the list as me being onthe 2ww or not

iggi999 · 31/10/2011 18:14

To give my perspective on the dc asking for a sibling issue, I would have loved a little bro or sis, quite sure I asked for one regularly (eventually I changed to a puppy). I was the youngest of 5. If any of us have a 2nd dc, they will also ask for a baby - we have to accept we can't make babies for ever!
What I'm after isn't so much a 2nd dc as a happy ending - I want to be able to see pg people and not resent them, I want my last memories of babies to be positive ones. If I'd had my mc before I had ds, there's no way I'd have tried for no.2. The trying is a pain but it's the grief I can't bear, I still hope that another baby would go a long way to soothing that pain.

freelancegirl · 31/10/2011 17:57

Hello all. Is Letrozole a self-administered injection? Just wondering as a friend has just started injecting herself for ovulation - the one who saw Mr S and he didn't diagnose high NKC. What was that herbal concoction Digi? I might mention it to my friend.

Talking of friends, no more news from the one who is pregnant after IVF and measuring small with no foetus at 6 weeks. She has a scan on Thursday so I am keeping my fingers crossed for her. Has had a bit of spotting and cramping since BFP so hope that's not a bad sign.

Digi I am glad you are both starting to let yourself get a bit excited about the new arrival! I can't quite believe it myself, when you think of everything that has happened over the last year or so. I feel like I have followed your journey and I remember you being so miserable (as we are wont to be...) when you just had another miscarriage and were struggling with ovulation etc. It is great to see it panning out well!

I am sure it won't come to this, for those who already have DCs pining for new babies, but hopefully from what we have seen here and in RL of people who are onlys it isn't such a bad thing if that's all you have ever known. I don't blame you Digi for thinking hard about going through all this again for a third. I guess the difference between those of us who don't have children yet and those who do is that we have started having our 'problems' before a successful pregnancy so, like with you and the potential third, the thought of having to go through it all again is rather daunting for all of us!

Duggs am loving your summary of the research. Do you think a pie chart might be too much to ask for? Grin Actually my tongue is only slightly in cheek when I say that, it's great to have it all laid out. Incidentally, are any of the BFP crowd having their first? I can't keep up. Maybe we should say on the list TTC #1 or #2 etc. I also like the fact you're sitting in a work meeting mapping it all out. In fact I love the fact that there are so many clever, intelligent, successful women here. You are all inspirational!

I've had a not very busy day as DH was working from home too and gets grumpy if I am here taking to him, so I went out to the gym and for a long wander around the shops at Canary Wharf. Means I have to work tonight to catch up so I best get on with it. Oh BTW I think I felt a tiny bit of left-ovary twinging when in the gym. Come on ovulation!

digitalgirl · 31/10/2011 16:58

Joining in on the Letrozole discussion - I was offered this during my second cycle on pred when I'd turned up for an appointment (private) at CD19 and a scan showed my ovaries to have no activity. I was fed up at this point of cycles of 50+ days and without asking was offered Letrozole plus Ovitrelle as a plan for my next cycle. He said it was preferable to Clomid in my circumstances as it didn't thin the lining and therefore you you weren't limited to a certain number of cycles on it. He also said that multiple pregnancies were less likely on it - which if you're trying to minimise risk is definitely something you want to avoid if possible.
As it turned out I didn't need to go on that treatment - which has saved me a few bob as you need cycle monitoring scans, possibly more than one per cycle.
The main reason Mr S gave for suggesting this plan was to help take the uncertainty out of when to start the steroids. DH and I were SWI-ing almost daily for 2 weeks plus up to ovulation...which as fun as it is, can get a little physically tiring. Thankfully my acupuncturist sent me a herbal concoction that helped me ovulate that cycle and voila! He said that Mr S has sometimes used the same herbal treatment with some of his patients.

kittens if you can afford to I would definitely recommend acupuncture - especially if you think you have a short luteal phase. Daniel at the LAC is great. I also went to the Harley St clinic as it was easier for me.

brownie did you have your scans with Mr S - I can't remember if you're under his care or not. The hb has often just started in the 6th week and can take a while to speed up. But glad that you've been given extra meds to try and combat it. Good luck on Wednesday - we'll all be thinking of you. Are you 8+6 today or 8+6 on Weds? Either way, very nearly at 9 weeks which is Mr S's magic week.

Good luck to comedy for Weds too.

Double figures tomorrow iggi double figures!

On the sibling discussion, I really want a sibling for DS. In fact I would love to have three DC - but I don't think it will make sense financially and I really really don't know if I could put myself (and DH) through this again, emotionally and physically. I do think my need to have a sibling for DS is based more on my emotional desire than a logical decision on what's best for him. I think he would be perfectly happy as an only - he would be well provided for, he doesn't have any cousins his own age but he does have lots of extended family who love him and I make sure he has lots of friends his own age. He plays happily by himself, making up stories and songs. He doesn't have to share his toys, and he gets a lot of cool hand-me-downs from his young uncles (7 and 11yo). But equally I think he'll be very happy with a sibling (eventually). I almost feel sorry for the sibling in that they won't have that same effort put into finding them friends their own age until school, because they'll mainly be dragged around DS's activities and playdates. However they will have a super-cool big brother to look up to, which makes up for it.

DH told me yesterday he was beginning to get excited about the new arrival. I think we've spent so long being cautious and careful to not let ourselves be too happy about it, that it suddenly dawned on him that it was probably ok to look forward to it now. I think it's helped that my family are very excited about it now we've told them. And DS is telling everyone that there is a baby in his mummy's tummy. He is getting rather confused by people asking him whether he wants a brother or sister (seeing as I haven't explained this to him yet). He's told them he's going to have a sister...

Havingkittens · 31/10/2011 16:04

Duggs I tried for 6 months worth of pred cycles. My last M/C was 14 Dec 2010, I got a referral from my GP to Dr S and had my appt on 15 March but was advised not to TTC until my results came back. They came back at the beginning of April so I've been TTC since then. I am in my 2nd cycle now of post 6 month break so will be TTC again in 3-4 weeks depending on when my period decides to turn up this month. My cycles were about 28 days but the last 2 months my period has turned up about 4-5 days earlier than expected, which on one hand is good because it meant that I can potentially start TTC almost 2 weeks earlier than expected but on the other hand it does make my luteal phase somewhat short. Hmmm. They didn't seem too phased by this at the Clinic though. I have been pregnant 6 times before and each time it's happened in 1-3 cycles. The consultant I saw last week said it didn't look like I had fertility problems but from what you said, it seems that Dr S was ready to give you Letrozole regardless, just to get things moving.

I might give them a call tomorrow when I get back from granny-sitting.

duggs1976 · 31/10/2011 16:04

Ahh apologies for the typos - I blame my fat fingers on this iPhone Grin

duggs1976 · 31/10/2011 15:54

Right - I love a bit of real like research to comfort me so have spent the last meeting I was in scribbling down notes from my iphone - (looking v busy and important) when I was actually pulling some facts together from our group.

Kind of an overview - thinking out loud-

All the TTC group - there are 10 of us now, just want the BFP as soon as possible so we can get onto the next stage.
There are 3 of us with HIGH NK cells (although I am one of these with boarderline V HIGH but only on the HIGH treatment - that freaks me out a bit) and 6 with V HIGH. It would be good to understand what steriod cycles we are approaching this month as I hear you havingkittens and that does seem quite strange that you haven't been looked at even with chlomid (which is cheaper than Letroloze) expecially given the fact you conceived so quickly prior to the treament - so it might be useful if we have a review of that (for anyone happy to share)? It might help you when talking ot the doctors - esp if it isn't always dr s you seen

So the BFP group - there are 7 of you now, just want to get past the 12 week mark (or the 8 week mark) or whatever your next scan mark is to be able to breathe more easily again.
There are actually 3 of you with V HIGH and 3 with HIGH so makes good odds for all of us.

You lot seemed to get a BFP in 1, 2 or 3 cycles - but I am not sure about coconutfeet, Iggi or comedy - did it take you ladies a bit longer ?
You are the pioneers ladies so it is so good you still take the time to update us TTC lot on what you are facing...I keep hearing Dr S words that most get PG within 3 cycles and only get to 6 before stopping for a break.

I would be a little suprised if people weren't offered some help in TTC after this considering the circumstances we are under, so Having kittens have you just tried naturally to conceive for almost a year or did I mis understand ?
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ChoccyPud · 31/10/2011 14:12

Hi all. Good luck with scans and scooter hope you had the intralipids today...

I'm an only too. My mum had a couple of mc's and an ectopic after me, so having had a tube removed and no doubt serious trauma, she was told not to try for more. I've never known what it would be like to have siblings but I don't feel I entirely missed out. It just isn't something that's ever bothered me. I don't recall asking for a brother or sister either. Lots of my friends had siblings but I don't remember feeling I was missing out by not having any myself. It's just how things were/are.

It must add hugely to the pressure though and it's not like you can explain exactly what's going on to a 5 year old. I can't imagine what I'd do in that situation.

This is cycle 4 on the Pred for me. Swi is in full swing for the hot week this week. It's nice to have a fresh start every month - the upswing of the rollercoaster as it were. Know what you mean free about trying to keep things light and good natured. This month is fine, but August, the first on Pred was all a bit stressed, and pressured as I felt like I HAD to get pg, and felt dreadfully emotional on the Pred, which I hadn't expected...not the best backdrop to getting in the mood!

Dh has also said to me about how long I want to keep putting myself through all this. I'm 36 and not feeling like I need to stop trying yet but he's worried about me I know esp what the Pred might do to me. He desperately wants a child/children, but equally he doesn't want that at the expense of my health. Kind of good to know there's an enforced break after 6 months, time to regroup.

Hugs to all and happy swi-ing [hgrin]

freelancegirl · 31/10/2011 13:19

That does indeed sound like a nightmare with your DD's half sister. Awful all round really. Some people need a license to have children I think - seeing how screwed up people can be from early experiences!

And yes it is a shame that we can't have lives like we used to with lots of children playing out in the street too.

And yes, again, I will sort out a first child first before I start to worry about what I will do next :)

snoopygirl · 31/10/2011 13:18

Hi all,

Interesting reading your comments about siblings. I think like Ari said it's so sad seeing them get upset that they don't have a sibling. It's real sadness and distress with my son. It's awful. If I ever get doubtful about undertaking this process I just think of his face when I might put a little baby in his arms. He isn't too bothered on home front about having a playmate as lots of those close by if he gets bored.
My DH and I decided that I didn't want to be over 43 (about 10 months away) and be a Mum but those guidlines have already been pushed as firstly 42 was cut off!
Anyway pleased with myself as Alcohol free zone for me last night! found a nice substitute (Sholer) put in a wine glass to fool myself hehe.

Arianrhod · 31/10/2011 13:09

As you say free, I think it was different then. My brother is 4.5 years older than me and as you mention, we didn't really go out and about together very much. But he was there for me at home, he would play with me, or just be there, and I always knew he was there if I needed him. And as you rightly say, we used to just go out and knock on a neighbour's door to play with someone. In my own street I think there's only two other children, and they're nowhere near my DD's age unfortunately. With both DP and myself working full-time we don't have the opportunity for play-dates with others from school very often.

My DD gets on very well indeed with her half-brother (he's my ex's son), she loves him very much, but he's 11 years older than her so to her, he's pretty much a grown-up. For reasons I won't bore you all with I have completely forbidden contact with her much older half-sister, as she is a nasty individual; not entirely her fault, it stems from her condition - and yes, it's Reactive Attachment Disorder. What goes wrong when a mother abuses her child, it's shocking and the consequences are horrendous, not only for the child but for those who try to pick up the pieces. But this isn't the place for that.

Well you know free, all you can do is have your child (being equally positive for you :) ), and then see how you feel. If it wasn't for DD needing someone else, then I too would be quite happy with one child, it's certainly easier financially! But I have to think of her and what's best for her, and in this case, I think that's having someone else for her very own. With any luck you'll have your baby, then you can think about the "what next" later .. :)

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freelancegirl · 31/10/2011 12:46

Oh Euro your poor mum going through all of that too. I am glad it worked out well for you and you weren't too miserable being an only! I have to admit I loved having my older brother but I realise I wouldn't have known any different if I hadn't had him. I had plenty of friends and some of those were only children and never really seemed to mention it. Plus when you're a girl with a brother who is three years older you don't exactly hang around together that much. But maybe it was different in those days as play was less organised, less house-bound and more spontaneous I think. I am only saying that as it seems that 'play dates' are more organised these days whereas before you'd just knock on someone's door or play out in the street so I guess there was less chance of being lonely. I could get this totally wrong not being a parent yet of course!

Ari I feel so sad that your little girl is so sad without a brother or sister :( it must be awful for you to see, especially with what you are going through trying to help her fulfil her dreams. How does she get on with her step-siblings? I just had to look RAD up - is it Reactive attachment disorder? Anyway lets be positive and think that you're going to provide her with a brother or sister very soon!

I have been thinking about this myself actually - IF I manage to get pregnant, stay pregnant and have even one child DO I want to go through the whole thing again to try to have another one? I have come to the conclusion at the moment that I would be quite happy having one child, but from what I have heard here will have to ensure I work hard to make sure he/she is happy with that! I think from a selfish point of view it would be nice to have two just in case, god forbid, something happened to one of them. But DH has always wanted just one. I have always wanted more but with the prospect of having even one such a difficult journey I am not so sure now.

Arianrhod · 31/10/2011 12:31

euro thanks for posting your experiences, it's interesting to hear from someone who's been there, done that! :)

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Arianrhod · 31/10/2011 12:25

I thought exactly that free before I had a child - and to be honest, I hadn't ever intended to have a child at all, my lovely DD was a complete accident. (Do I feel I'm paying for that earlier attitude now, now that I'm actually trying to have a child, and can't? A bit, yes). And even when she was born, I told myself it would be ok that she was an only child; I raised her alone for the first couple of years, and always thought she and I together would be enough. But as she's got a bit older, and started at school (she started at her school's nursery first so has been there 2 years already), and all of her friends have younger brothers and sisters, she's really feeling the lack, I see it every day. And it absolutely breaks my heart. She has no-one else to play with at home (other than me and DP obviously, but we can't always be playing with her, and it's not the same for her anyway). She sees her friends' little brothers and sisters getting a bit older, old enough to play with her friends, and she sees how her friends are with their siblings (very protective in the most part), and she wants the same for herself. She's a very bright little girl, and really desperately wants someone of her own - and I want that for her. Not only that, but God forbid anything should happen to DP and myself but if it does, she will have absolutely no-one - and that frightens me.

I know about the resiliency of children - I myself went through some pretty nasty things in my childhood, and I've also raised two stepchildren, one who has RAD (and oh what fun that was not). But I see my darling little one, sad because she has no-one at home around her age, someone that's just hers, and it kills me. You're not over-thinking at all free - I know I do, I am accused of thinking too much daily!!, and it's probably true. But whenever I want to give up this trial, I think of my daughter, and it keeps me going. I don't know for how long I can go through this, but I think my endurance isn't anywhere near as finished as I sometimes think it is. For my daughter, I will put myself through hell and back again - if it works, and it gives her the sibling for herself that she so wants, then it will all be worth it.

Sorry, I'll shut up now. :)

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eurochick · 31/10/2011 12:16

free I have seen it from the other side. I am an only because my mum had 3 miscarriages after me. I can remember asking for a little brother or sister, mostly because everyone else had one! It must have been heart-breaking for my parents to hear given what they were going through but for me it was just something I wanted in the same way I wanted the latest toy iyswim? I'd forget it about it for a while and then bring it up again. Mostly I just wanted someone in the house to play with when there was no one else around! We moved next door a girl my age around the time my parents stopped trying and as I had a friend on tap I don't think I asked any more!

I do remember two "traumatic" incidents but I don't think I understood they were related to babies until I was much older. One was going to a scan. I remember the squirty bottle and green screen. I think my dad had to take me out when there was no heartbeat. I'm not sure. I was probably about 6 so it's all a bit hazy! And then after the final miscarriage, my mum got an infection and it all went very bad. Her tempterature skyrocketed and she was really very ill. Her parents and brother came to visit and look after me so my dad could work. I knew she was ill but didn't know it was baby related. She was told to stop trying after that and did.

So aside from the health bits, I was completely unaffected by being an only.

freelancegirl · 31/10/2011 12:04

Hello Cycle Buddies :) Yes Euro I think Daniel does do a day a week at Epsom. Harley St is easier for me too but I don't mind Epsom if I have to - it's only one change on the train but obviously a bit further out (am in SE London).

I can completely relate to that conversation you have been having with DP Ari. I feel exactly the same and DH had said the same too.

I know a few of you have mentioned that your DCs talk about having a sibling, it's funny as not being a parent I can't imagine what it must be like to hear that and how I would react. I wonder where they have got it from - whether they see other kids with new babies or whether they pick up from mummy and daddy that there's something going on? I imagine, trying to remember being a child myself, that if I knew I had seen a subtle reaction that I didn't quite understand on my mum's face when I said something I think I would have said it again too for effect. Not to upset her, just to feel like I was involved somehow and to get another reaction. I don't think I was a horrible child - just one who liked attention Grin

I know it's easy for me to say as I can't possibly understand the situation but I wouldn't feel guilty for not yet providing another sibling I don't think. Plenty of people grow up as an only child and are perfectly happy. I am not talking from the parents POV as I know that secondary infertility and of course recurrent miscarriage as we are talking about here is awful whether you have no children or three but I think from the child's POV try not to feel bad. I have done some work with a child bereavement charity and it's amazing how children who have gone through some hideous things (like a parent or sibling dying) will move on from it very quickly, particularly when very young. Am I over-thinking it here? Am just taking a quick break between a very boring report I am writing and using you all as a distraction :)

eurochick · 31/10/2011 11:25

CD14 for me too!

I see one of Daniel's colleagues at the London Acu Clinic. no BFP for me yet, but my cycles have become a lot more regular and (tmi alert) my periods a lot less clotty (fewer clots apparently means that the lining is a good environment for implantation) since I have been going. She mentioned to me that they work with a lot of people Dr S see and I think they even run a clinic at his Epsom practice now? I'm not sure - I go to Harley St as it is the most convenient for me.

Arianrhod · 31/10/2011 11:24

Morning all, hope everyone's doing well this gloomy and yucky morning?

Yep free, CD14 for me too, and no sign whatsoever of OV, CBFM is still showing Low and OV sticks still no smilie face. I don't know what's going on, but it's p*ing me off mightily! Also SWI, but feeling a bit cheated IYKWIM, since OV should have been here by now. Grrrrrrrrr.

Know what you mean about wanting to get on with it ... I'm not terribly patient at the best of times, but having to do this yet again is beginning to take its toll on me a bit. DP and I were talking about it yesterday, he's concerned about what I'm putting myself through and says we shouldn't try for more than a few cycles, then he thinks we should call it a day. I have to say that possibility has crossed my mind a few times, 3 MCs and trying all over again, especially since my OV seems to be messed up after being perfect for the past 2 cycles, is getting to me somewhat. If it weren't for DD being so desperate for a sibling, and me feeling so guilty at her not having anyone at all anywhere near her age for herself (no cousins, or anything), then I think I would give it up right now.

Sorry, having a bit of a down day today, normal service will be resumed shortly (I hope!). Good luck to comedy and brownie for your scans this week, and so sorry to hear you've had different treatment on the NHS with Mr S kittens, that really sucks :( Hope you can get it sorted out.

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freelancegirl · 31/10/2011 10:32

Morning all, yes Kittens it was the same person as I was recommended him by Digi. He is Daniel at the London Acupuncture Clinic. I keep meaning to go back there but haven't got around to it yet and next week I am too busy and the week after I am away. And feasibly I could come back pregnant anyway!

Sorry there is a discrepancy between private and NHS Kittens - very annoying. I did have one appointment at St Helier that was NHS and I never even got to see Mr S - just one of his people. I hated the hospital so much I then decided to continue with private. Last year I was really struggling even to pay my bills but thankfully this year things are a bit better and I can get the money together. It is hard though, and painful when you have to hand over huge sums of cash!

Brownie nice to see you again, I was wondering where you had got to! Glad you are feeling sick (ifkwim) and that the first scans went well. Have you been injecting yourself with the progesterone? It's great that they actually have a plan to see if they can help things along. I do hope Weds brings you more good news.

SO it's CD14 for me today (as well as Ari and others I think?) and no sign of any ovulation style twinges. I did feel a light cramping (almost like I was pre-mentrual) last night so wondering whether that was a sign I am gearing up for it. Been SWI every day since Friday which has been amusing as DH and I have been bickering and then had to make up and have a laugh about it when the time comes. Other than the bickering (unrelated to SWI) it has meant for a lighthearted mood and it's all quite fun so far. I think I do have some cheapie ovulation sticks in the house so maybe I should really POAS and still if anything shows up. Just really couldn't be arsed with temping this time, which is odd as I actually really enjoyed it when I did it for the pregnancy over the summer.

If it works it will be my third pregnancy in 10 months. Am also a bit concerned that if it does work and I get a BFP around the 16th/17th Nov CD30/31 it will still be another few days until I get back to the UK and can have intralipids. The earliest intralipids would be CD36 and that's if I get straight off the plane and go to Epsom. I guess it wouldn't be such a bad thing if it doesn't happen this month, but I also do want to get on with it!

Havingkittens · 31/10/2011 09:58

Morning! As usual I've not had much time to do more than skim read I'm afraid so a bit light on personals again.

Duggs welcome to the thread. I was interested in your comment about Dr S offering you something to help if you didn't conceive in the first few months of treatment. I am seeing him on the NHS and he did say that if I didn't conceive within the first 6 months of treatment (after which he recommends a 2 month break, which I'm just coming to the end of, to give the body a break from the pred). I went back for an appointment to discuss this and was seen by a colleague of his as I think he is away. She didn't prescribe anything but recommended my GP refer me to their fertility clinic, which I'm guessing will take another good 3 months! Her words were "We are a miscarriage clinic. We don't deal with fertility problems". So, now I'm frustrated to read that Dr S is happy to prescribe something immediately for his private patients and yet, because I am in the NHS I have to wait for a referral to a different department. I think I am going to call his secretaries, both at his NHS practice and private to see what the difference in treatment is because 3 months is a long time to wait after a 2 month break, especially with 6 failed pregnancies behind me and a 42nd birthday rapidly approaching!

I also wanted to ask details of the acupuncturist that digi and free were seeing. Was it the same person? The one who sees a lot of Dr S's patients. I am toying with the idea of seeing someone to help increase my chance of conceiving as this is getting silly. It's nearly a year since my last BFP, and I used to get pregnant on my first or second cycle of trying pretty much every time. Last year I was pregnant 3 times! (for all the good it did me)

Good luck to comedy and brownie for your scans on Wednesday.

Love to everyone else.

BrownieGecko · 31/10/2011 08:53

Morning Ladies, sorry for just lurking these last few weeks. Wow, can't believe how many of us there are now!! Hope you are all in fine fettle this fine Monday morning.

Have to confess I have had head in sand since my BFP. Had 2 scans around 6 wks which showed hb. Although from previous mc's it has always been at the 8 wk or 12wk scans that things have gone awry. Have scan this Wed where I should be 8+6 and then 2nd round of Intralipids on Thurs. At last scan they added Progesterone injections to list of drugs as well as Crinone as I think they thought hb was a bit slow :( Trying not to stress over that which is easier said than done. Other than that am feeling bloated, bunged and very sick, so all good hopefully :)

Good luck this week to all you ladies TTC, and to those who are very much giving me hope that I may be able to get beyond 12 wks. Thanks

TTC
duggs1976 - High borderline V High NKC TTC/ Ov 28 Oct. Pred
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC/OV 29 Oct
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 31st Oct.
Freelance - V High NKC TTC/ov 1st Nov. Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC/ov 1st Nov
eurochick - awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 31 Oct-2 Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / cd10/ov 3rd Nov
Cheerfulcharlie V High NKC (intralipids on BFP, no Pred) TTC/ov 5th Nov.
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Itralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC again from November

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP ON 9/7/11 cycle#2 - 21+2 Due 10/03/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 16+0 Due 16/04/12 next scan 7/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - 12+6 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - 9+6 next scan 7/11
Comedy 9+3 due 1/6/12 scan 2/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 5+1. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid. 8+6 scan on 2/11

digitalgirl · 31/10/2011 07:21

Monday's List

TTC
duggs1976 - High borderline V High NKC TTC/ Ov 28 Oct. Pred
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC/OV 29 Oct
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 31st Oct.
Freelance - V High NKC TTC/ov 1st Nov. Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC/ov 1st Nov
eurochick - awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 31 Oct-2 Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / cd10/ov 3rd Nov
Cheerfulcharlie V High NKC (intralipids on BFP, no Pred) TTC/ov 5th Nov.
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Itralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC again from November

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP ON 9/7/11 cycle#2 - 21+2 Due 10/03/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 16+0 Due 16/04/12 next scan 7/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - 12+6 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - 9+6 next scan 7/11
Comedy 9+3 due 1/6/12 scan 2/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 5+1. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

Arianrhod · 30/10/2011 13:06

Sue last month was my first with the Pred and because I know I tend to OV on my second Peak day I took Pred from the second day. I double-checked the Peak with an OV stick the evening of the first Peak (always do that) and got the smilie face confirming OV the next day.

Well CD13 and CBFM is still showing Low (should be first day of Peak) so I don't know what the heck is going on. Does Pred mess with OV even after just one cycle? Guess I'll have to amend my details in the List, but I don't have a clue now when OV will be this month :(

And my 4 year old is forever asking me when I'll have another baby in my tummy :( Wish it would hurry up, just for her, it makes me so sad that all her friends have little brothers or sisters and she doesn't :(

Hope everyone is having a good pre-Hallowe'en, I need that friendly witch!! :)

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ChoccyPud · 30/10/2011 11:06

Sue, I do ov sticks with fmu then take my first Pred when I get a smiley face. Don't know how this compares with what others do but is what Louise told me to do when I started using the ov sticks. I don't use other fertility/ov monitors so can't help with cbfm etc I'm afraid.

Scooter hope you're feeling better today, and that everyone enjoyed their extra hour's sleep... I needed it having chugged quite a lot of red wine last night! Fwiw I agree with Sue that surely the odd glass will be ok when pg but saying that I know I'm very much in the Fear camp and don't want any more looking back and wondering if it would've been different had I not done xyz... The fact that I went right off red wine when pg should help though. :)