TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

Aww brownie, can totally understand how u feel hunni. Every single twinge, even now, I'm convinced it's all over but it's time to start being positive hunni as hard as it seems. The pains will be ur ligaments stretching, again hard to believe but it's ur little bundle growing inside you. Can see ur point and would help u so much if u had a scan asap but they just don't understand our situations at all unfortunately. I have honestly thought about looking into working in the sector now as really feel there should be someone at the reception of every EPU who has at least a little knowledge of situations such as ours rather than women who have all had 5 children each without a problem and have no idea what were going thru, sorry rant over . You are going to be fine hunni, not long until Monday now just try to relax xxxx

Evening Ladies, wow you guys move quick :) Just caught up from Friday :)

You really do give me hope with all the good news about the positive scans this week!! Stogan hope you feel a bit more reassured. I have a scan then next couple of days I have persuaded myself something is wrong. Am on constant boob check.

I haven't posted or read MN these last few days as been mentalling about period like cramps since Sunday night. Called local EPU and they have refused to scan me despite my tearful pleas. They said, 'If your not bleeding, you're not coming in'. Pfffft. When I told her I had had 6 MC and most were MMC so I don't usually bleed when I miscarry she just tutted and told me to monitor the 'situation' ...WTF?!? DH took day off today to try and calm me down which was nice. Had a lovely relaxing day. Next scan is on Monday 14th Nov where I should be 10+3. I am going to hold out till then as no point in trying my local EPU. :(

Keeping everything crossed for those of you ovulating/TTC. It is very stressful watching out of any symptoms and then trying to stop yourself from testing too early. I was a shocker, god knows how much money I have spent these last 5 yrs on pregnancy tests.

Update from me, sorry post is so long now -

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no Pred)/ov 3rd Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan 14/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no Pred)/ov 3rd Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan ?
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

I've just updated again. I think I ov'd 3rd Nov (possibly 2nd). Well I'm loopier than the lot of you because I've already POAS at 5dpo! obviously it was BFN, but I am a POAS-a-holic and incredibly impatient and slightly ashamed to admit I will be testing everyday until AF. In the defence of testing on 8dpo, I was told to do so by Dr S. He was adamant that if we use first response it would be positive by then, although I am very dubious about this. Last time I got preggers I tested every day from about 6dpo and only got a very very very faint positive on 10 dpo.

Kittens So sorry to hear about your mum, you're doing well keeping it so together.

Stogan - really pleased to hear about your scan :-)

I am almost wanting to get a BFN this time as I have had spotting from 2 DPO (!) and i can't think if anything was going to implant it would have a very healthy implantation if my lining is shedding already. It's especially annoying as I've been using the cyclogest since ovulation (well 2 dpo) and that's supposed to maintain the womb lining. Had a bit of red bleeding (slightly more than spotting) and slight twingey crampy feelings today. It's not looking healthy.

Really jealous of your meet up plans and wish I lived closer.

cross-posts free - I wasn't pg with my first appointment, they saw that I'd had most of the tests already, so just re-did the APA test and did a TEG. As my cycles were so long the consultant said I could probably carry on with TTC as I would have my results before a BFP. Both came back normal, so they didn't prescribe anything and said get on with TTC and that when I got a BFP to get back in touch to book another TEG. So when pg, booked a TEG at 5 weeks. Then booked a scan at 8 weeks, though they will see you from 6. The good thing about St Mary's is that if you want they will see you weekly from week 6, unlike some EPUs who seem to be very stingy about early scans no matter what your history.
I wanted to avoid going to the same room at my EPU as it had so many bad memories, so opted to travel into St Mary's for scans in between Mr S's scans.
So far I've had scans at 8 (St M), 9 (Mr S), 10 (St M), 11 (Mr S), 13(Local hopsital), 15(local), 17(Mr S) and will have my final one at 19 weeks (Local)!

Excellent news stogan very very happy for you! Have updated your new scan date.

duggs I'm expecting #2, I have a DS who's 3. Mr S also said the first pregnancy would have activated my NK Cells. Love a table!

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC (intralipids on BFP, no Pred) TTC/ov 5th Nov.
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan ?
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

Amazing news Stogan, so happy for you! Can't beleive in no time at all you will be 30 weeks. It really is fabulous.

Euro it was me who asked when your appointment was as I really hope it brings some answers for you.

Battery chuckling away at you poas - ie any old stick that's in the house. Did you think of picking up any twigs on the way home too [grin} ? I guess I am not much better with my 8DPO poas but it's not impatience necessarily (yeah right) but more not wanting to have to organise intralipids when in LA. I don't feel pregnant today if that means anything. I few left ovary twinges but nothing significant. Still a bit off eating but I think that' the Hydroxy as the Pred usually kicks in the evening and makes me starving after dark.

Sorry for everyone having crap sleep and Digi for the seemingly imminent arrival of SPD. What a pain. Literally!

I too love the idea of a chart or table Duggs. It would help us stay organised but you never know might also give us an idea of some sort of pattern to things, if there is one.

BTW I forgot to mention that my referral for St Mary's finally came through!! It says that if pregnant i can't have the appointment. How did that work with you Digi? So if I am not pregnant at least there is another form of investigation to explore, even if it doesn't tell me anything.

Am in a coffee shop in the Wharf for the next couple of hours, knocking up an article before meeting DH for an early dinner. Best get on with it!

Duggs some of us have got eg ttc#1/2/3 etc on the current list which should get you started on who's already a mum. I'm still going for no1 anyway.

Stogan absolutely fabulous news. Wonderful. Can't imagine how that feels but hopefully will one day

Aw, that's amazing stogan.

Thanks choccy.

I'm not bothering with early testing. I am pretty sure I am not pg this month. Why should it be any different to the last 11 (plus however many before that when we were being a bit more casual about the whole thing)?

Someone asked me when my appointment with Mr S is - Monday week.

AMAZING . . News like that makes us all stronger on our journeys !
I'm not working on a pie chart but more of a table - how many of you are mums already? I'm just trying to pull some info together that might be easier to digest than the list x

Hey y'all sorry I wasn't on sooner been busy back at work?

Scan was amazing and baby lifted it's hands, pointed at dad and then pointed up to me OMG I have never felt love like it it was the best feeling ever sooooo can't wait for everyone to be seeing that. Looks like it won't be long for alot of you, here's to some BFPs this week !!!

Kittens I have one more scan on 30th dec when I will be around 30 weeks. U don't normally get them but my new consultant says he wants to see me as he wasn't there today , hey I'm not complaining that will be our 9th scan, this must be the most photographed baby ever !!!

Anymore scans or testing this week??? Xxx

Euro I hope S can give you some answers. I only know I implanted once before. At least two of the other mc's could have been chems they were so early but you can never know for sure. As you say it's the same thing and those nasty little kcs can start their business as soon as they spot something that they think shouldn't be there.

Shall all we testers jump on this early testing bandwagon and test on Fri?? For me that'll be 10dpo well 10 days after smiley face so the earliest I would realistically get a bfp. Wonder if the collective sleeplessness is either due to happening to all be a bit stressed out wondering whether we're onto the next stage or due to the co-ordinated cycles meaning we're all at the same Pred fired restless phase?! Again, the power of the Internet!

Btw not seen scooter for a while... Hope you're out there and all is ok :)

damn spelling!

Hello fellow 2WW, and early POAS ers!

Very quickly from work - I too poas - but on an opk - and there was a second faint line. However that was at 8dpo so I have no idea what it means - if anything. I am certain I am out this month - no symptoms at all - just the usaul sickness with the pred. I do have the twinges but nothing else. I am feeling quite low about it. However my chart is almost exactly the same as it was when I got my last BFP so I am clinging to that - even the same dip on 8 DPO.

kittens - You are doign so well, try to keep strong xx

Will post again otnight.

PS I am glad we are all in the same boat with POAS and early symptom spotting xx

Oh no digi, my sympathies re SPD. I've known others who've had it and it sounds like hell. Try not to worry about DS whacking your bump. From what I understand there is a lot of amniotic fluid/cushioning around the baby to protect it.

Thanks for you kind words all of you. It is a struggle and I don't feel very strong, although I am luckily quite a level headed person. I have had my moments of complete uselessness too though. When my mum first went in for the op I got a call from a client asking me what time I thought I would get to her. I had completely forgotten that I was supposed to be at work, even though I'd mentioned the job to a few different people earlier that week! Everything completely exited my head. Needless to say I was absolutely mortified and I suspect the client thought I'd made the story up to cover for my flakiness. Ahh well. At least it was a private client and not "industry".

My strange OV twinges went on for hours yesterday. I don't know what to make of it. I was still having them at midnight when I went to bed and had to take some paracetamol so I could get to sleep (as well as Nytol which I'd taken an hour earlier). They had no business behaving like that at only 4 days into my cycle!

stogan best of luck today. Will this be your last scan?

I am in agreement about the CCTV thing. I've always thought it would be helpful to have a little window put in but that might look a little spooky and put OH off SWI

I would be telling all you 8dpo testers off but there is evidence on one of these threads of me doing the same, at least once. Probably more.

kittens sorry to hear your mum had a bad weekend. You're absolutely right about work always being there - but time with family is precious. You are being amazingly strong, even though you might not feel as though you are - you are somehow managing to hold it together and make level-headed decisions. You'll make a brilliant mum, I hope it happens soon.

As for you early testers - please accept this SLAP with a wet haddock. 8dpo is TOO EARLY!!! Although totally understand your reasons

choccypud and duggs those are very promising symptoms. Fingers crossed!

free I really do hope your BFN was just too early

ari good luck with getting your acupuncturist to cure your insomnia - my friend had acu for that very reason (although she wasn't on pred) and it worked a treat.

Must be something in the air, I had a bad night's sleep too - nothing to do with drugs (am down to aspirin only now) and everything to do with a restless DS who kept thrashing about and making me paranoid that he was going to really whack the bump. Am also finding turning over in bed is getting painful - which means the SPD is definitely starting. My physio appointment cannot come soon enough (no idea when it is).

stogan thinking of you today. Let us know all is well after your scan please!

kittens I am sorry to hear about your mum. You seem to be being very strong.

On a lighter note, CCTV would be very helpful!

duggs, this would be the first attempt at IVF for us. I'm 35, never been pregnant. I think I might have had a chem preg once, but by the time I had figured out what might be causing the pinky discharge and dizziness (this was back in the happy days when I knew nothing about cm and had never heard of preseed)!), and gone out to buy a pregnancy test, I was bleeding and the test was negative.

I'm going to see Dr S because if the problem is implantation failure (and no other reason has been identified, hence the "unexplained" diagnosis), that is the same process that causes recurrent miscarriage but just earlier on. So I think it is worth finding out before moving to IVF, and having more expensive implantation failures.

free don't write it off yet - 8 Dpo is nothing the embryo has just started it's journey if it is in there! Such a headf*ck all this. When do u fly?

Duggs I poas too! BFN of course - only about 8DPO. I just wanted to see if even there was a very faint flicker of a BFP that I could arrange the intralipids for before I go. I am now convinced that it is definitely a BFN this month as no symptoms so far today. Who knows what I will convince myself of later today though :) psycho 2ww symptom/non symptom spotter

I am with you Choccy on the disrputed sleep. My alarm was set for 8am but I woke up at 7am, having taken ages to fall asleep last night.

virtual hugs from me too kittens.. you are dealing with so much at the moment

duggs I think I read that it takes 2-4 days after implantation to get a BFP

Only about 3 hours sleep for me last night.. ARGHHHHH!

kittens a Huge HUG. You are being so strong.

I am 11 dpo and did a sneaky cheapie Internet sensitive test but was a big fat BFN. However I did then see some pink mucus on tissue and think it might be implantation bleed?? AF not due until Saturday. I know it could be AF early but I don't usually get this early and is not my AF style. I'm on day 12 of pred so I have 2 more days to take until I need to make a stop or continue decision. I wonder if anyone knows how long after implantation bleed I might get a chance of a BFP? All about me sorry! I think I am among the first testers . .

kittens so sorry to hear about your mum, you are coping with so much at the moment.

Good point Digi about bfn's. The problem with Pred is you have to stop at 14 days of taking it but if AF is late or you just happen not to have got a BFP until after 14 days then you may end up with a gap in the Pred and delay with intralipids. I'm all for keeping testing a few times to be sure! I'm over getting bfn before AF is due. Yes it's a bit depressing sure but again even FR tests don't count as low as your hcg might be at that point.

Well. I woke up just after 5 with light cramping and low back ache and couldn't get back to sleep properly. And I went to bed early last night because I'd had a late one Sunday and been a bit out of it all day - it's so annoying not to have got a benefit out of it. Grr. Someone please invent that CCTV!!!

kittens so sorry to read about what you are going through - just a horrible situation all round and I know there is nothing to be said to make that better so sending you a big hug andtravel safely x

Cherry I mean of course.