TTC for 10+ months, part 3

I'm not sure how many mls he produced, I guess we will find out when we get results.

I've booked myself in for reflexology today, figured it might be relaxing :) and as I'm still off on holiday it might be quite nice.

Morning lovely ladies!

Well done on starting you PGCE skelly, and I am sure you will be fine in your placements!! Exciting stuff to keep your mind off obsessing... My course has also started and it is really fun, but it takes so much time and energy. I have not had a chance to post for ages! I am hoping it will take my mind of TTC so well, that I can be one of those annoying people that go, as soon as I stopped worrying I got my BFP .

How much did you OH produce izzy? Mine did a measly 1ml for his first SA and 1.6 for the second. And our gyn was claiming this was not an issue as the quality was okay (26 and 32 were the numbers of volumexmobilityxwhatistheotherfactor?). It is good to get stuff moving in any case. How annoying about AF's visit in your hols. Bloody typical. munki what is your status now? Waiting on another SA or? I missed your updated stats. Very familiar about the stress making samples less adequate. My DH admitted to missing the pot partially...

Waves at karbea fellow shorty cycler. My gyn was not concerned about my normal range of 24-31. But as I have had the odd 20 day cycle, she wanted to know whether that happens more often. I am sometimes confused about when a cycle has started... On spotting, when do you need to worry about it? I have a LF of 14-ish days and usually spot for a day or so beforehand. This time it started two days ahead of time, and although bloody annoying , it was quite conveniently timed with another wedding. I proceeded to drink too much, ate loads of raw-ish food and then had a panic when AF delayed her arrival by an extra day.

Fingers crossed for growing eggs hillie on the scan tomorrow! I am ignoring the manuka thread, although do let us know if this is the snake oil that leads to a BFP joycep. If so, we'll all get some! How are you now? You sounded miserable a few days ago (and I just read all that). And a house for pout that is excellent news, although the fortnight gap sounds rubbish. What is your plan now? I forgot. But it is in any case good news to have somewhere to go with all the furry children. On furry, nelly respect for your supersecret hobby. I am scared of big animals and of speed, so I could never do what you do. But it sounds great and should keep you happy and then an ironic BFP should naturally come your way! LOL about the thrush and yoghurt tips, my trusty trick is to have AF come, it tends to wash things away. Although I also have amazing prescription pills, but they cannot be taken in combination with TTC. But I came close last week... I think purple, popcorn and wine should have a reflexology meet in M and tell us all about it (and what they are like in RL ).

Quick wave to the rest of you, apologies for missing you out! Has anyone seen mrsd lately?

karbea yes, you should be careful with agnus castus. It is pretty powerful stuff and I have read it has messed some posters' cycles up. I am taking under the advice of an acupuncturist and herbalist and it seems to be doing what it should, so far.

I buy mine at the shop under Hale Clinic cos it's near where I go for acupuncture but they seem to sell similar in Holland & Barrett. It's a tincture not a tablet that I take. I have worked up to 0.5ml twice a day over a couple of months.

I thought you had to be really careful taking AC. Off to the gym.
I reckon diet is my issue too, but I can't help eating rubbish! :(

Hi Euro. So with AC where did you buy it from and how much/how often do you take it?

Just popping in to say to Izzy that apparently anywhere from 2.5 ml is OK, though I have read that that may be revised down to 1.5 ml. My H 'did' 1.1 ml, which is among the many, many things that are abnormal about the sample, though he told me it was 'about a teaspoon' - obviously he was being overly optimistic... I don't think it's uncommon for the volume to be affected by the stress of producing it to order - that's why the first sample is usually not very good (I have been told) - so don't worry too much if results are not great.

That should say twins not twons of course. I have no idea what twons are.

I'm trying AC. It is called nature's Clomid, so you shouldn't take it alongside Clomid.

I've been on it for about 2 months. It seems to have brought my ovulation forward by a day (I have gone from alternating between days 15 and 17 to 14 and 16). It is a small change but it's something. I am using it alongside acupuncture (it was my acupuncturist who suggested it).

I hope you feel better soon.

Hi all,

Thanks for all the advice out there.

Manuka honey hey? Now that's one I haven't heard of. Anyone tried Agnus Castus - i hear it's a herbal remedy for solving irregular/absent periods.

Been off ill for two days :( Spent the entire day yesterday curled up under a duvet in my pj's watching girlie chick flicks - all of which I have to add just end with a family randomly being produced. Wondering whether this last course of Clomid is finally taking it's toll, haven't had side effects so far but intense migraine and feeling generally poo could be the result I guess.

Does anyone ever worry that fiddling with things will increase the chances of an abnormal birth?

The list of foods to avoid, and incorporate is great, anyone able to actually follow it? I'm ok on the healthy eating bit, but rubbish at the eating regularly bit as I end up having long gaps between meals. Seeing a dietician and I truly think she believes this is the sole cause of may failure to conceive. I keep trying to kick start it into action, but old habits die hard. Another thing to make me feel guilt ridden that it's all my fault!

Off to hosp on Thursday morning to see if I have any eggs growing, fingers crossed, but also strongly considering giving it all up and concentrating on being healthy and hoping that nature eventually gives me a break!

Definitely thinking about what I can do in the future a bit more positively now, I am going to pursue the law of sod!

Nelly, we are close to being cycle twons - I am 5dpo. I'm not sure what next. I am pinning my hopes on the immunology stuff.

Well that's us just back from hospital, handed in the sperm sample. Forgot to ask how long results would take. DH was a bit at how little there was! Hope that doesn't mean bad results, as just now its pretty obvious I'm the problem, would be a bit crappy if he was too!

By the way, I meant the period style pains, not the IBS!

I thought I just posted, but the wind is playing havoc with our phone line and therefore Internet. Trying on "rural" 3G now.

I have similar pains euro. I'm 6dpo ish today and had them today. I think I have a normal LP and bloods showed progesterone was 55 so can't be my lining starting to shed surely? And if it is attempted implantation, what next? Cos it ain't sticking .

Will try to catch up properly once normal Internet has resumed. Lost one big branch already tonight, fingers crossed for no damage by morning!

I'm another IBS sufferer. Mine came on about 12 or so years ago and is now more or less cleared up, as long as I don't eat large amounts of dairy. I wonder if it will be another common feature of the long term ttcers like the Raynaud's. It's something else that gets a mention in Dr Beer's book on Reproductive Immunology although I can't remember what it says about it off the top of my head. I recall that migranes are mentioned too (something else a couple of people on here have).

My gynae asked me nothing about my medical history apart from STIs and whether me or my husband had been/made anyone pregnant before.

Popcorn and wine all in Madchester? Woooo! I did have reflexology in the centre of Manchester once near the 8th day - the place looked scary from the outside but it was lovely inside... will have to check it out again.

jocep the bacteria in the live yoghurt competes with the fungus that causes the thrush. Yucky I know, but there are no bacteria sources that are more pleasant. Yoghurt is not so bad really... not compared to the probe-avec-condom at the gynaecologist...

Regarding the IBS question - this has come up once before and a few of us have IBS, so we wondered about this. In fact (I had totally forgotten about this) my gynae asked me only about 10 questions in my first meeting with him, and one of these was about my bowel movements and he noted down that I have IBS-symptoms. Bearing in mind that there were only about 10 other things on this piece of paper, he must have felt it was relevant!

I hear ya on the snake oil purchasing Joycep and euro I have been buying/trying something every cycle so far, they have mostly been sensible stuff like the CB monitor, and I have bought some preseed to try next month but have also included a magic crystal egg(!) , havnt heard of manuka honey, but I'll probably be googling it when AF hits and I'm looking for next months 'cure'! I ov'd at day 20 or 21 this month according to the monitor, so 'short luteal phase' is probably my next thing I will worry about, am CD25 at the moment, so far no pmt symptoms, no preg symptoms either, but at day 4 PO they would only be imaginary anyway. have started my PGCE last week and am enjoying it so far, am already nervous about what my placement will be like thoug! sorry to hear your AF on hols tale Izzy at least it has come though, going so long between cycles must be awfull when TTCing I guess you never know where you are.

Of course I know my mutual phase length :) it was 9/10 days but the last 2 with acu have been 12 days :)

The lengths we go to, eh?

I am having general fertility investigations first. Will move on to looking at the immunology/raynaud's stuff after our next appointment with the gynae in November.

joycep I am also contemplating purchasing manuka honey tonight.

If anyone has some snake oil to sell they can find me in the St Paul's area.

Sigh.

I'm 4dpo and since yesterday I have had a pinching uncomforable feeling in my womb area. I've had it many times before, usually around 7dpo. I am sure it is attempted implantation.

Hi joycep,

Typical isnt it!? We conceived first in 9 months but even then my cycles ranged from 24-42 days long! Thats why we bought a CBFM which showed my ov date changed dramatically from day 16 to day 30! At least with the monitor we knew when to DTD as it were!

Yes I saw that, manuka is very healthy, so maybe it's similar to the good diet thing.

I've had a jacket with coronation chicken, I'm still starving! I'm going to have to succumb to crisps :(

My cycle length is on average 26 days, here are my last few lengths in reverse order..

25, 25 (started acu), 27, 21, 30 ( on honeymoon), 25, 24, 22, 25, 23, 26, 24, 24, 24, 24, 25, 24, 23, 25, 24, 28, 21...

So they are pretty inconsistent. The acu man said anything under 25 isn't likely to result in a pregnancy so they are results back to march last year and only 10 out of 22 cycles are really viable..

Hi everyone,

Ive tried to catch up after my holiday! Lots of posts to read but no BFPs :(

Holiday was fab, but just as is my luck i got my bloody period in the middle of it....after over an 100 day cycle!!! WTF??! Not amused!

We have been referred to fertility clinic which GP said shouldnt take long. DP has to hand in a sperm analysis in on tues morning. They had lost the info sheet so all we know is he has to abstain for 3 days and sample has to be at lab within the hour!! Is that basically it?

Our stats are me and DP both 27 ,ttc#2 on month 15 but had 3 cycles!!! one which was induced with progesterone and one which only started last week! ARGH! I too am interested in reflexology, i think i may call and get an appointment.

Hope everyone is well :)