Sixth Form Common Room part IV - ttc and pregnancy post mc

Hi i was on here before but took a break as i had 2 cp in a row :( The due date has now passed for MC and i feel in a better place, so pretty please can i join this thread again?

Tina miniv is ignoring her eviction notice at the moment! Intense session sounds good - I might try acupuncture just to find out!

Thanks guys - seems pretty weird to have the date in the diary. Fingers crossed we make it that far!

Hugs to you all

Morning

Have a good rest Freezing

Congratulations Smiley [hgrin]

Well done on booking the CVS knitter, we'll all be holding your hand and crossing our fingers for you x

velvet how is Operation Eviction going? [hgrin]

Any sign of a bfp or af Tomboy?

I think I ovulated yesterday so am now at the start of yet another 2ww. Can I ask a tmi question of those of you that have had acupuncture? Last night after my session dh and I had an early night [hwink] and it was...ahem...more intense than normal...anyone else had that? And she also mentioned trying moxi next time...anyone tried that?

Brilliant new smiley congratulations

Well done knitter on booking your CVS.

Sorry haven't been around much recently but thanks for your get well messages. I'm fine but DD came down with a bug/virus type thing. She's on the mend but the washing machine has been busy, and haven't had a very good catch up on sleep so heading off for some needed zz's now.

Waves to all

Congratulations smiley this is a lucky thread recently, please can I ( and all others ) have a BFP too?!

congrats smiley lovely news

i've been brave and booked my CVS - bloods will be on the 3/11 and then the CVS on the 8/11. I'm also thinking that I'll probably go for a reassurance scan 21/10... as the 8/11 seems a long way away and I don't like the idea of psyching myself up for a CVS only to have a bad scan... does that make sense?

Congrats smiley! I understand the nervousness, but try to relax (she said knowing she'll be mentalling for England next time round).

congrats smiley lovely news to come in to for my catch up :)

tomboy sorry you got a bfn, I don't know how many cycles you need to have before you can actually work out what is "normal" length again - I had 5 between my ERPC, 10 week wtf and this BFP and they were all between 32-36 days so still quite a big variation I think. fx it's still just too early for you but I know how disappointing it is getting your hopes up each month and then AF appears.

Lady I am ready for meeting this baby now!

Congratulations smiley!

Woo-hoo!! Congrats smiley !

digi fab news on the scan

ladymb so pleased things seem to be going well - and you mouse hope you're managing to hang on until that half term scan!

aandr thinking of you, lovely xx

yrmotb and mummya hope things are still going well for you both

Hi Ladies,

Well Digi and LadyMaybe you were both right!! I got a BFP! I'm literally in shock, like complete and utter shock. Over the moon like but just beyond nervous. I just don't know how my DH would cope with another MC. I just desperately hope and pray this little bean is a super super sticky one. Cos of coming straight off the back of MC, I'm a tiny bit unsure of exactly how many weeks I am but roughly 4.5 so an absolute age to go yet. We are just so so nervous and I'm getting ready to go back to work etc I dunno i feel so lucky but so so nervous. This is going to be the longest 8 weeks every (hopefully all going well). I was actually at the GP before I did the test as had horrible black bloody stools (tmi apologies), which they said was probably a bug, now I'm not sure should i go back or not. HOpefully it'll just settle down.

Digi - how wonderful for you to have seen baby on the screen, that's just such a aspecial moment - fantastic! hope you are feeling well too

Itsabear sounds like a good plan to me!!

Mouse how is it going? i'm with you on the waiting now!

Tomboy really hope you get the BFP

I hope it is too TomboyWife, very frustrating being in limbo like that though.

itsabear that's quite funny. Honestly, I don't know why they can't put a bit more information in letters etc that they send out (I suppose they're just standard form ones to save time), to stop this sort of mentalling. Fingers crossed for normality next time around

Mouse you're doing fine, just fine. Just keep plodding on, one day at a time. The first few weeks do seem to take fooooorrrrrreeeeeeevvvvvveeeerrrrrrr - but it does all mount up and that scan will be there before too long.

I'm thinking about you every day AandR, hoping with every little bit of me that time has done it's thing and your bean has grown and a good hb is seen. I hope the scan, whenever it is, goes well and that you get the good story this time.

and hello to SmileyGirl sorry, I don't think I said hello before - don't want to give you false hope but actually having a rubbish sore throat/cold was the first thing that happened to me with this pg. Not sure if it's a symptom or not, but it does seem to be fairly common. Anyway...best of luck this time around.

Velvet, Collie, YRMOTB and MummyAbroad if your lurking - I hope you're feeling ok and not too horribly uncomfortable. I spoke to my lovely bumpy girlfriends the other day and they are well into the 'am over this' stage, but being very brave and stoical about it

Tomboy These WTF cycles really mess things up don't they. For my last preg/mc I had no idea how long my cycle was as didn't get back to my usual 28 days which made dating it very difficult.

No advice really except maybe try and wait another couple of days?

Hope it's a BFP for you very soon!

itsa my cycle pre-mc was usually 26 or 27 days. If I've done my adding up correctly, today is CD 29. So not hugely late, and this is only my second cycle post-WTF so things may still be settling down. My WTF cycle was 8 weeks (!) and the one after that was something like 34 days.

ooh Tomboy how late are you? When I was pregnant with DD my tests didn't come up BFP until about 3 days after my AF was due.

digi congrats on seeing your little one for the first time!

Well, AF is officially late now, and I've added tired and vaguely fluey to the symptom list (though boobs remain stubbornly un-sore), so I wasted used another test this evening. BFN again. I am now officially annoyed.

Evening ladies.

Thank you for your support and reassurances - I'm pleased to confirm that when the surgery said 'abnormal' test results, what they actually should have said was 'sorry we didn't actually take enough blood to do the tests correctly!' so PHEW. Although in a small way it would have been nice to have a diagnosis. It's a shame I had to completely mental for a few hours over google. I really appreciate your kind words and calming posts though. :) I'm sorry for the panicky posts. I am (unsurprisingly) on a bit of a knife's edge at the moment.

Hope all the newly pregnant are not mentalling too much. My AF has now finished and we will be TTC over the next couple of weeks. Not going to temp or chart this time - just going to follow the method used for DD1 which basically just involved a lot of SWI. Ahem.

I had my second acu session this afternoon and I feel totally ZEN. Hmmmm shame I have to catch up on my work this evening.

Digi I am so excited for you that your scan went well. YAY!

mouse distraction distraction distraction. When I am next pregnant I'm going to pretend I'm not. I'm living like I'm pregnant now (apart from a lot of brie!) so I won't need to stop drinking etc etc.

LadyM Hope all going well despite the pukiness.

Now back to my bean and butternut squash stew.

itsabear most hospitals have standard tests for anti-phospholipid antibodies and lupus anticoagulant so they will have tested it correctly. The specialist test Lesley Regan is referring to is the Thromboelastogram (TEG) which has to be tested within an hour of the blood being taken. It's a different test that measures a certain kind of clotting. If you are seen at St Mary's they'll offer you this test in a non-pregnant state and then re-test you once you are pregnant. If it shows an abnormality when pregnant they will offer you aspirin as treatment.
I think the lupus anti-coag test doesn't necessarily mean you'll have lupus if it come back abnormal. But as ladyb says it could indicate that when pregnant you have anti-bodies that cause the blood to thicken. So again this may be an aspirin treatment, or Clexane if they think it warrants something stronger.
Ideally you should have the tests repeated 6-8 weeks apart, as it could be the pregnancy hormones skewing the results. I definitely think if you're getting these tests done then you should be reffered to a specialist consultant rather than have your gp try and interpret the results and guess a treatment plan for you. Most GPs are not miscarriage experts.

mouse well done for booking scan. I (possibly powered by steroids) planned loads of social events for my early weeks to keep me distracted. That and the fact that I was still in denial at 7 weeks got me through it.

knitter how are you doing? Keeping busy?

tina how annoying - I know how frustrating it is to get those rogue high temps followed by a bunch of low temps. Hope the needles help.

smiley a cold sounds like a possible pg symptom. Unless you were ill during the time you ovulate it shouldn't delay your period. Once you've ovulated its pretty much certain that your period will turn up in the number of days your luteal phase length it. (It varies from 10-15 days from woman to woman, but if yours is 12 days, then it will almost always be 12 days). Sorry if I sound like a weird menstrual cycle know-it-all, it's my attempt at reassuring you that hopefully AF won't be late because of a cold, but hopefully because of a BFP!

twittwoo glad to hear of more reassuring symptoms!

freezing hope you're feeling a bit better on the ABs.

Had my dating scan and combined screening test today. Scan went well, measuring 13+1 today so I'm back to my original 16th April due date. NT measures 2mm which is within range for 13 weeks. Just waiting on blood results now. But feeling hopeful, it was lovely to see our little baby today.

Yay for bump digital!

Boo for bfn tomboy

AandR any news? How are you?

for mouse, well done for taking that first step, we'll be there with you in spirit x

Sorry itsabear, I have no lupus knowledge to offer you.

Sorry you're feeling icky lady, as hard as it is to see the good side of hugging the toilet it is a positive!

My body tricked me into thinking I'd ov'd on saturday but then my temp fell again. I've been feeling slightly flu-y for a few days so I guess it's that...acupuncture tomorrow...

Argh! Phone!
Ahem.. Antiphospholipid antibody and that they should repeat it before diagnosing. However I don't think it necessarily means you have lupus. I think having the one positive test done while you probably still had some levels of pg hormones is a pretty strong indicator that blood thinners while pg might be helpful in your case. If you get a negative next time and the gp tries to dismiss it I'd be very strongly pushing for a referral to a rec mc specialist with knowledge of APS or going privately. Well done for getting those initial tests.

Hi itsabear, I think that the lupus anticoag is a type of antiphos

Can I ask a bit of panicky questions? Having been told that my test results were clear, I've now got to go in and give more blood as the results are abnormal. Specifically this relates to Lupus Anticoagulant. Now, I think having read Regan's book that they didn't perform the tests correctly. I only had one lot of bloods done and these were at my surgery. Clearly they were not going to get these processed and tested within an hour....also it was only one set of tests. I was still mcing too. Don't know if that affects it.

So having googled Lupus Anticoagulant and had a minor freakout (mc, heart attack, stroke! Eek!) I'm now thinking I didn't have the tests done at all properly....which is much more reassuring. Kind of annoyed with my surgery for saying it was all fine initially though.

I realise I should probably post this in a mc testing thread but I can't cope with more than one thread at a time!

Hi to everyone - will catch up with the thread later. Sorry to just post about me....x