We are jolly well going to get preggers this month and keep it with some Rat smacking, pom pom waving, baking, visualising and brooking no argument. JUST FERTILISE!

Imps It's going ok, took my temp this morning and it had dropped to 36.12 (AF day 2) so looks like I was panicking over nothing with my "low post ov temp" of 36.3-something before (as if we didn't know that!!! ha ha)

DH is interested to follow my chart, esp as you can apparently track changes in your thyroid activity (I'm hypo)

Oh, Dream I have carried out some intensive decorating research and have a solution to your painted radiator nightmare - this is it! Sorted. I'll send the invoice for my consultancy fee in the post.

We are Imps, indeed we are. Will be useful won't it, able to compare morning sickness, cravings, stretch marks

Yes Bartlet what is your take on this? I am sure I could whip up a little experiment in the lab this afternoon to prove this theory of ours

We are clearly deffo in tune with the cravings - we're both on CD 23 aren't we?? Raspberry crumble cupcakes are THE official craving for CD 23, apparently. Am sure Bartlet will be able to confirm this, given her medical background.

Oh no Wants was this a smear?

Imps I have just been sitting in a meeting dreaming about making some raspberry crumble cupcakes! Are you a mind reader? Or are we just having the exact same cravings?

Eeek, Wants - what happened at docs??

Indeed, just like smack the rat, timing is everything when conceiving - a little too soon or a little too late and there's no chance of hitting that egg!

Maybe - FOCUS! Brook no argument and don't allow any external factors to derail you! Here, have a slice of raspberry crumble tart.

maybebabyR - My socks are currently drying out under the table! And yes - very appropriate term

Wants - poor you! :( What do you teach? I go back in a couple of weeks too... looking forward to having something to take ttc off of my mind!

Back from doctors and feeling sorry for myself. She made me bleed and then wished me luck with TTC!

Welcome Sn0w

Cake - bathing in preseed does sound like the way to go! Might make for a messy bath mind... this month will be yours I'm sure :)

I would currently like to track down whoever it was who decided pregnancy and AF symptoms would be similar! Have been feeling crampy for the last few days, incredibly bloated, and various other things - but yet they could all just symbolise AF's approach. Grr!

maybebabyR - I got soaked by a London bus this morning too. Not best pleased!

Oh - and may I ask - why rat smacking? I'm up with the rest of the lingo, but this one's bypassing me completely!

Hello Sn0w and welcome to the thread. As a result of having joined in, I can officially confirm that you are now pregnant! Hurrah and congratulations!! How are you getting on with charting, by the way?

Hello to everyone else too. So sorry about AF Cake - glad you are back in Rat Smacking Mode - go get 'em!

Re: sloshing out issues, I find that if OH withdraws reeeeaaaallllly reaaaalllly sllloooooooowly while I tilt upwards, less of it comes out. Also agree that there is less dribblage at fertile time - presumably the cervical door is open to let it all through at that stage.

I've tried Preseed a couple of times but to no avail and OH hated it (although I think that maybe I used too much). I have heard from other various sources (google mainly) that it has a good success rate but I always thought that if you had a lot of EWCM it wouldn't make a huge amount of difference. Worth a shot though!

Baby bad news re: BFN, but there are a number of charts on Futility Fiend which show positive OPKs before a positive BFP so there is still hope by the bucket load for you!

Right, off to get some lunch.

MeconiumHappens tells me this is the most fertile thread on MN, nay, the internet, and so here I am! plops herself down on the squishy throw pillows and crosses her arms resolutely

What is pre-seed? I assumed it was just an expensive loob but it sounds like it's something more a bit more complicated?!

Impressive positivity Cake, those rats won't know what's hit them! I must say, on day 1 you're already blooming!

Awwww Meconium that's so sweet!

Thanks for the reassurance everyone, this really is a great thread! I'm staying positive, and many thanks to Golden for reminding me that I'm supposed to be enjoying the excitement of this stage!! There is a part of me that is soooooooooooo excited I'm grinning like a lunatic at strangers in the street (esp anyone with a bump or a child!). Mostly though I've been head down and viewing this whole week as some kind of endurance test!

I'm going to keep up the daily poas until my booking in appointment on Friday, and I'll keep up the super cautious minimal activity until then as well. After the booking in appointment though I am officially going to consider myself fully confirmed as preggers and start enjoying it!! I'll also tell my Dad at that point, he may be a worrier but I think he'll be really chuffed as well.

The SWI stories all made me chuckle! I read that doggy style is supposed to get the swimmers into exactly the right place as well, but we had significant "sloshing out" problems with that position! In the end we stuck to good old missionary, and very romantically after the post-swi cuddle we'd do an awkward little manoeuvre where I managed to close my legs before DH pulled out. It's all passion and seduction in the Scream household! I think it worked though, because almost none came out, and I'd then stick a cushion under my hips for half an hour or so (we took to watching tv in bed straight after swi). Of course this just meant that loads came out when I got up afterwards! I think it gave max time for the athletic swimmers to get on their way though!

One last point, I just used Conceive plus from Boots, not Pre-seed. However I didn't conceive the first month of using CP (unless I did have a chemical pg - which I still think is likely) so maybe I should have got some pre-seed!

Hi everyone thank you so much for the positive thoughts maybe, solars, scream,little and everyone it makes it much easier to have you guys around I think I have finished crying now but last night DH and I had a bit of a low evening and broke out the mid week wine, I'm ok now though!

scream hope your cramps are in fact a good sign and it is just squeak clinging tight to his/her mummy!

Right onwards and upwards rat smackers I am definitely getting preggers this month and I shall not hear a word otherwise!

This month i tried preseed and pregnacare conception. i bought the bigger tube which came with 9 applicators. Its like a shoot it up devide like an applicator tampon. I think i got it from amazon. Make sure it says pre seed though, theres another product just called pre and it not the same thing.

I am also feeling a bit af crampy, but just going to ignore it and brook no arguement. I am pregnant and thats that.

Looks like we conceived the week of our first wedding anniversary...awwww

Baby It is obviously just too early to test

Cake How are you this morning? Hope she didn't come after all.

Jen apologies for TMI, but I seem to find that the closer I am to ovulation, the less come out. Maybe to do with the cervix being more open? Plus, the keen swimmers find their way up anyway, despite what comes rushing out

Sorry you are feeling vunerable Scream but it is totally understandable. Surely it is much better for you to be in here brooking no argument and consuming vast amounts of baked goods than to be worrying on your own?

I hate it when it rains and I have to go out in it. Bus drivers in London deliberately aim for me as they come whooshing past through enormous puddle

Congratulations Meconium Wow great to hear of another BFP!!!

Baby it's still possibly too early for you so hang on in there!

Cake hope you're ok, we're all here thinking of you.

Looks like i'm going to have to buy some of that pre-seed for next month!!!

Dream, Scream it's got to be those little ones of yours settling in and making themselves comfortable for the next 8 or so months.

Oh, another one with a BFP first month of Pre-seed!! golden, Mine was from amazon. I used the applicators. I didn't re-use them, but i did wonder about washing them up and re-using. After all, they're not paper, they're plastic, so i don't see why you couldn't. It was messy without them...

jen, i was also worried about it all sloshing straight back out. TMI but we tried doggy as thought it was good for the swimmers to get in though i hate it and loads of pelvic floor exs plus a bit of lying quietly with a pillow under my hips on my back afterwards (I did that last time too)

scream, i am continuing to fret over various cramps and pains. I never normally have cramps with AF, usually backache so i'm hyper-sensitive i think!! I', sure its just these babies settling in. Don't forget, 81% chance all will be just fine

bartlet, great! I'm glad coming on here is Doctor's orders. My dh is very fed up with me worrying about things and asking him, i don't know why he doesn't appreciate mn more... I have many, many walls with textured wallpaper I'd like off if anyone's offering? They have all been painted over in antique white (like the whole house- we've been in nearly 10 months and have done nothing...). DH says it's fine, nothing needs doing. Typical. Also that radiator still isn't looking good imps, i'm doing badly at sanding down the drips and re-doing... What about an imps/ wants duo decorating team? I'll be the dogsbody but clearly have very limited skills....

Golden yes I am pre-school, I also have been preparing for the new term but am determined to make the most of these last 2 weeks especially SWI!
America let me just recover from yesterday's scraping and I'll be there, we ladies mustn't exert ourselves too much in one go!
Anyone- TMI, but I am booked in for a smear test today,AF was beginning of last week so not ovulating yet but should I mention TTC?

I wouldn't buy the separate little tubes btw, I found them a bit rubbish. I bought the bigger tube with separate (optional) disposable application devices.

It's kind of runny but fine to use. You can, ahem, insert it with a squirty applicator thing, or just use it as normal.. I had run out this time but was using it when I got pg last time.

I figure it can't hurt if it makes swimmers happy

I've bought it from Amazon and Access Diagnostics, not seen it in Boots.

PS can you get it from Boots?

Ninja of course it's a symptom.

Meconium I am buying preseed today. Is it tricky / messy to use or just like lube. Isn't there some kind of tube?

golden it depends when you ovulate, some people ov really early so could get bfp from a just after af swi, other peopl (like me) ov really late so swi after af would be just for fun.