We are jolly well going to get preggers this month and keep it with some Rat smacking, pom pom waving, baking, visualising and brooking no argument. JUST FERTILISE!

imps, here here.

Now Futility Fiend says after you ov you get dry down there until after AF. I still have some CM, Can i call that a symptom??? As my last period (before the 2 i've had recently/first full cycle) was November 2009, I really can't remember what's 'normal' for me.... i have an inkling it is but hmmm.... And i felt really nauseous the other evening while eating dinner. And i want to be, i do, i do!!! I always used to get backache before AF as a warning, none these last 2. Stay the blinking same symptoms, you're driving us all crackers!! gah.

scarlet, will you be poas again tmw to cheer us all up again then?! We all believe you though, we really do.

I don't either! I don't even remember getting EWCM - I get so much of it these days that it can't possibly have passed me by before TTC (I was off the pill for a year before we started trying). I didn't even know what it was until we started TTC - surely then I would have before questioned this slippery stuff excreting itself from my wazoo on a monthly basis?? But nope, no recollection of it at all!

I know Imps it's so true. But I honestly don't remember ever getting symptoms of any sort until TTC

Oh, maybe totally agree with the meaness of AF symptoms being the same as pregnancy symptoms. But what I think is even meaner still is the fact that AF symptoms are different every month - sometimes I have sore boobs immediately after OV; sometimes I only get sore boobs a day or so before AF. Sometimes I have cramps for a week leading up to AF; sometimes I don't have cramps at all even during AF. Sometimes I feel really drained and tired during the 2ww; sometimes I'm bursting with energy. This simply is not acceptable bodily behaviour!

yes I meant wet mouth.

Better add baby brain to the list!

Great minds Imps

Wet mouth?

"wet mouth" Scarlet

Cramps are a good sign Farfalla Why are our bodies so mean? Making AF symptoms the same as preggo symptoms.

1. Didn't mean dry mouth, meant opposite to dry mouth

Strangely now I know I'm upduffed I'm experiencing all sorts of symtoms

1. The one I've had from when I ovulated as previously reported. AF type cramps in uterus area and occasionally in lower back (this is the main one which concerns me)

1. Funny sensation in my boobs, like I can actually feel the growing by the hour. Occasional tenderness and pain.

These are all symptoms noticed today

1. Very dry mouth, been swallowing a lot all morning.

1. Food feeling like it's stuck in my throat and taking ages to go down.

1. Sporadic weird shooting pains in the fanjo area (probably more vulva really)

1. Very slight nausea

Are any of these common preggo symptoms? (Apart from boobs which I know about) Or am I just odd?

ninja :o I do the same thing I think the opks are just for reassurance that all is working downstairs and the charting is just because I like graphs and am a bit geeky!

Pleased you are celebrating Scarlet and at the clearblues.

That's amazing Solar I hope he keeps you well stocked with baked goodies

Thanks cake, I usually go with the ewcm as a way of monitoring but to be honest the swi from about day 8 or 9 to about day 16 or 17 anyway so I sometimes wonder why i bought the pee sticks in the first place!

yes scarlet do you feel any different? Enquiring minds need to know!

ninja I agree with solars on the 12-36 hrs thing, that is what it says on the packet but I find I ov within 6-12 hrs of a positive opk as I usually get my temp rise the next morning, afraid I never really get ewcm so I can't cross reference

Any symptoms to report scarlet?

Me and DS have just been out to our local bakery to treat ourselves to a nice celebratory lunch.

Oh, and some clearblues accidentally found their way into my basket while in Boots. Keep me going for a bit.

solars that 12-36 hours bit sounds familiar. I'm guessing I layed my egg a couple of days ago then!

Generic not insensitive in the slightest. I know you're right and I really am hoping this is the one.

dream I've been taking folic acid every day since last September! Try and do it at the same time every day then it will become a habit. I have my vitBcomplex with my breakfast and my folic acid is taken before bed. I can't be doing those Pregnacare things, they're massive! Are you testing tomorrow then?

Farfalla you're still in the game. If you see a stick? Pee on it!

I am a bit geeky and just remember to take my Folic but then again I have been TTCing for 16 months Now ( ) so I guess it has just becomes routine...

Ninja Re: Ov sticks i think it sometimes tells you on the box that once you get the positive surge that you are likely to ovulate within the next 12 to 36 hours I think??? I don't have any around to check for you.

Farfalla I think anything is possible in the world of pregnancy! I've read too that the swimmers can hang around for 7 days at the most, so you're in with a chance! I think these buggers can be quite strong too, a friend of mine got a surprise pregnancy whilst still having the implanted contraception thingy in her!! For 4 months she didn't realise she was pregnant!!!

Well I'm going to be offline for a couple of days as I'm off up norf (well to the midlands actually)

Will be thinking of you Dream and hoping to hear some good news on my return. Is someone else testing soon too? Good luck and keep those visualisations going!

Hope i'm your good luck charm too Generic

Maybe my cousins husband almost got onto the Great British Bake Off, I think he has in the last 20, but I missed it last night! I would be tempted by all the baking too!

Arg, you have to take folic acid with a main meal?? I take mine first thing in the morning when taking my temp! Is that 8 months worth of folic acid down the drain then??? What happens if you don't take them with a main meal? Do they erode your stomach or something

Ninja - not sure on the OPK bit, but I always have EWCM on the day of ov itself but it dries up by the next day. Do you take your temps? I'd heartily recommend it as it gives certainty as to ov day plus I'm a bit of a geek I always get really happy when I see my temp shift, regardless of whether I'm in the running that month or not!

My vits live in the breakfast bowls (I know you're meant to take them wityh main meal but that is just too much to remember). Also DH is like a monkey in that I have to train him to have something in his routine. As long as the vits are on top of the pile of bowls, he'll take them. In fact, he'll probably never stop taking them now...... I also hide them when people come round just in case they should happen to be looking in that cupboard......

I say if you want to poas, pee on that stick farfalla it could be possible. I don't think it would for me as I never really get ewcm and I think the little guys like the right climate in order to hang around any length of time

My vits are also on the kitchen surface in a prominent position and get quickly shoved in a cupboard when people come to visit!