PCOS, regular periods but not ovulating...don't want clomid yet!

ooh I am very excited to see how you get on with it, I really hope you like it. I've had it about 2 months now and I must admit I have to keep re-reading sections as there's so much in there. Check out pages 195-198 and 230-241. x

I got the book yesterday - just need to read it now!

I will follow this thread to see how you get on with it.

Just ordered myself a copy, lets see how it goes! Will stay away from the website then lol

Actually, forget the website its too confusing. the book is very different to her website.

Fairy, honestly I feel like I've just discovered the world's not actually flat. The book is written by someone who is a qualified doctor as well as qualified in chinese medicine so its really easy to follow and not too 'out there'. The thing I like most about this book is that the whole philosophy is that problems conceiving is just about imbalances that need help to be rectified, and the diagrams and other diagnostic checks help you work out where the imbalances are, how to help them and also how to see if its working. Some of the recommendations are things like daily foot soaks (as all the 'meridians' to the uterus go through the feet. !?! Some of the explanations are a bit like, 'really'?, but it seems to be working for me, and there's loads of examples through the book of people's conditions and how they were rectified. Honestly Fairy, if you do one thing buy this book. If you regret it I'll send you the cost of it myself!! oh and i misspelt before its 'the infertility cure'. She has a website called 'the fertile soul'. Its just chinese medicine explanations really so there's plenty of other texts out there explaining this stuff, I just always dismissed this stuff before. x

Hi Carebear , has the book been helpful? I'm having much trouble interpretng my temperature chart!!!

Should also add that book has a chapter on pcos

Hi mind if I butt in? Fairy I remember you from a clomid thread, hope u r well, I am still going on all this stuff too. Recently found this great book which gives diagrams of chart patterns and what they mean and how to treat them. Mine was up and down too, according to this it is 'liver qi stagnation', and the recommendations are quite easy. Its called 'tue infertility cure' by randine Lewis.

How's it going LIG1979?

Just got a proper positive opk - very excited! Most about the fact that it is only CD23 so should have a cycle of less than 40 days which brings me closer to having a normal cycle. (Last cycle I O'd on CD 43.)

Sorry just had to share that with someone and I am sure the friend I am seeing tonight will not understand and her husband would totally .

Now off to get ready for DH to get home to seduce him. (Actually just sent him a text to say my sticks say I have to do it with him immediately and all weekend! Very romantic. )

So does mine - I put a link on the charting site to see if anyone could help. Normally mine is fairly stable - not sure what is going on. Think I may stop taking the maca for a few days to see if that makes it a bit more stable.

Yeah I am & only reaching for the therm sticking it my mouth & waiting for it to beep. lowest being 35.90 & highest being 36.52, Not hit ovulation yet. But every day is up & down. The graph looks like a mountain range!

Hi Fairy,
Are you taking your temp at the same time every day before getting up? Also, if you drink too much alcohol that can raise it. Until this month my temp used to range between 36.25 and 36.4 pre-ovulation then above 36.6 post ovulation as long as I took it between 6.30 am and 7.30 am. The values don't matter it is the change between pre and post ovulation.

This month my temperature is all over the place - I think it may be the maca I am taking. I though I had got to grips with charting but now I am not so sure!!Good luck!x

Well I'm trying to follow my temp but it's up & down everyday! I've now got an app on my phone to follow it too!

Ok - not sure what my body is doing - the opk got darker on wednesday but wasn't quite positive. it is now back to definitely negative but no temperature rise yet. So not sure if my body tried to ovulate but couldn't? Dh is away at the moment so I am now willing my body to not ovulate till he returns!

Any news on you ovulating Worrying?

Ok - now I've got EWCM but the opk sticks say NO still very odd. CD13 so not really expecting it to happen yet (as that would make my cycle like a normal persons) but usually the EWCM goes hand in hand with a postive opk. Luckily the maca is making me very randy so no problem with SWI just incase although the DH isn't home till midnight so need to convince him....

Trying to not get my hopes up......

There is still a long way to go and any improvement in day would be good - sort of depressing to think I could be POAS for another 30 or more days but keeping my fingers crossed my body does something a little sooner this month.

Wierdly, my temperature has been higher this month but I think that may be due to the maca I was reccomended by the accupuncturist.

Thanks for asking LIG but nope, CD 17 and nothing. Although I havent been taking my temp as religiously as we've had a few days off work and i've been busy, but def no sign of EWCM. I have a 40 day cycle so i won't give up hope just yet. Good luck!

Worrying - any ovulation signs yet? I am on CD12 now and started testing with the OPKs but not sure how long I will be waiting as it was CD42/43 last cycle. Wierdly got some watery cm which I have never had before, either that or I have lost bladder control (which I am hoping I haven't as that would be yuk!). Just hoping it doesn't happen this weekend as DH is away and that would be very frustrating!!

No not done the temperature thing yet (about the only one I haven't done lol). To be honest I think my consultant should be monitoring me more! Got another app in Sept to will be putting my foot down for more monitoring & checking for OV.

I do watch my CM but I find that I get EWCM for a bout 2 weeks of my cycle! yes I take a ton of vitamins & not feeling any healthier for it TBH! lol

Fairy have you tried taking your temperature? I find it helps me to know when I have ovulated and then I can link other symptoms to find out when I will ovulate. Only done it properly for a bit on fertilityfriend.com but been doing it since June and it looks like my temperature at 7am is around 36.3 pre-ov and then 36.7 post ov although last month it did hit 36.9 but that was a chemical one. It is however very depressing taking the temperature everyday and not getting an O as it really brings your attention to how late you O (last month was day 42) but at least I knew it did happen and I know when to test for pg or expect my AF.

I am a bit of a geek about this all but it does make me feel better to be doing something to monitor what my body is doing. Although I am sure it is not healthy with a day of taking my temperature, vitamins, supplements etc. in the futile attempt to get a baby one day!

LIG Not sure about #1 - have done it when on Clomid but have no idea any other time, #2 - We are pretty good at SWI, #3 - apparently this happened last summer but it didn't stick & I ended up bleeding for 6 weeks after! so 1, 2, & 3 are def goals. Also bring down my weight is also a major goal. Also a long cycle again, had got it down to 30/32 - but this month was 40, but less painful (still painful though!)

My skin is the worst it's been, I'm like a greasy teen with major spots around my chin!

LIG like you i was waking during the night a bit, but I'm not sure if that was because I was worried about taking it. I didn't have any pains/burning sensation but then my highest dose was 80mg. I'm upping it to 120mg this month. Good luck!

Fairy I like your goal...I am setting mine into mini goals - 1) Ovulate 2) SWI at the right time 3) Get pregnant 4) Stay pregnant to 12 weeks 5) Get to full term. Not got past goal number 3 yet....

Worrying, Have you had any side effects from it? I have been waking up in the night and my abdomen area is almost burning but not sure if that is in my head. I am now onto my last night of taking it tonight so we will see what happens. Trying to improve on ovulating on CD42 last month so there is alot of room for improvement. Been on 120 mg of soy isoflavones so that plus all my vitamins, maca powder etc. means I have been rattling all week!

On a good note, my skin is looking better than it has been for a while and I am hoping that is reflected in my ovaries. It had really improved over the last few years but I got really bad pregnancy skin (in march) that has taken till now to improve. The fertility nurse said it may just be the pill wearing off and that I would have bad skin from the PCOS had I not been on the pill. Stupid stupid stupid condition!!!