Learner driver is charting a May minibus for the April drop outs

also what is 2ww? (is it 2 weeks wait - as in the excrutiating time after ovulation till AF?)

I also love brothers & Sisters! it's so ridiculous. Haven't caught much of the last series (i dip in and out - you pick up what's happened in about 10 seconds by the terrible script that backdates everything).

As for how often we've swi - apart from the blip on thurs, we've been pretty much every other day, then everyday fri/sat/sun - cos the piss stick told us to!

Last night, as we are past the ovulation time, we threw caution to the wind and did it with me on top. As i don't allow that position when it's serious swi - only missionary and from behind (TMI alert) cos i dont think enough sperm gets up far enough.

Does anyone else have a swi position?

DP is away tomo - sat and then Mon-sat. So he will miss the horrendous wait we enevitably have :(

Hey all,

My guilty pleasures are Brothers and Sisters and The Good Wife (and also Extreme makeover home Edition - Oh the shame )

In answer to 'How often to swi?' Since starting OPK's I have always ovulated when expected - around CD 16-18. This month I decided to really go for it (after being gutted at arrival of AF last time) We started to swi every 2-3 days from CD 8, cranking it up a knotch to every day from CD 15-18. In the past I have stopped being bothered after that, but this month I may persuade DH to go back to every 2-3 days during 2ww - you never know your luck, right?!

On the otherhand, I was watching The Sex Education Show (another guilty pleasure!) and the doctor said that if a woman has had previous early mc's then she should seek advice of doc before having sex in early PG (but surely that doeesn't count during 2ww before you know if you're PG - any thoughts?)

Thanks for the distracting question cats and the biscuit medal . Think we will need lots of distractions in the next 2 weeks!!

... or another episode of The Vampire Diaries

Agree Cats my suggestion only works if you know roughly when the smiley is coming. Mine's been regular the last 2 months (after coming off the Pill in Feb) so I am hoping I can tell when it's coming.

If not then the SWI over the last couple of days will have been wasted just for fun.

TBH we can't be arsed a lot of the time either! Sleep is sometimes just more attractive...!

Hi Byrnsie I remember you too, nice to see a familier face, even if it does mean we've both been unsuccessful so far. Let's just hope we can make the same connection at the end of this bus journey, must be our turn soon, keep telling myself that anyway!

i love judge judy! ...and repeats of poirot/columbo/marple etc.

You are absolutely right I know minipie, and I loved the bit on the Human Body programme about how our amazing bodies put the sperm into a kind of sleep for up to 5 days and then wake them up when we ovulate - nature is so clever!

The problem I have is a totally erratic cycle - last month ov'd cd16, this month cd11 (hence using opk's) and what with fatigue issues, a toddler and neither dh or I having a very high sex drive to be honest I just can't be arsed to be dtd for potentially two weeks solid and we stop swi after 2 days past the - in fact we rarely swoi either!

On the plus side, when we do do it we put in 110%...

Ooh, now that is interesting. Yes I meant how frequently during the "fertile window". I've been planning on every other day during the fertile time but maybe I might upgrade to every day....

By the way, you might want to DTD on the couple of days before the smiley OPK - because sperm can live for a while inside you (slightly eww) whereas the egg only lives for a day or so after ovulation (at least according to what I read).

Lol at x-factor confession minipie - you aren't the only one.. I like it when it gets to the live show stage but can't be doing with the auditions (not enough singing for my liking)

As for dtd frequency, well I tend to only bother when I get a smiley face (either dh or opk, whichever comes first) and then either every other day or daily depending on the time to energy ratio. Saying that though, I'm only a couple of months in I might be more motivated to swi every day from cd 8ish if I'm still here in a few months time.

Everything I've read says that the whole too much sex ruining quality of sperm thing is a bit of a myth and one study even concluded that short term daily sex improved it:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8125934.stm

Morning all!

Cat my guilty pleasure is the X Factor. In theory I think it's dreadful but I still watch it (though I do fast forward through a lot of the build up and mawkish bits, and the dreadful singers). I might have cried a tiny bit at the Irish 16 year old last week .

Question: what is everyone's view on how many times to DTD during fertile phase? One half of me says "the more the better" but then the other half remembers that advice about "every other day" creating stronger sperm or something .

Oh and also: anyone use pre-seed here? Have just started trying it out ...

[nosy emoticon]

Welcome Stork - good to have you!

brynsie I am massively impressed by your shagathon - you so deserve a bfp this month! In fact, for commitment to the baby making cause, I hereby award you the biscuit digi-medal of honour - wear it with pride...

I feel like we're all getting lovely and cosy on the bus and quite a few of us are in the 2ww where we need to stop ourselves poas keep ourselves distracted so I'm going to do my bit by starting off a question of the day...

I have recently become a bit obsessed with watching The Vampire Diaries. For those of you who don't know, it's a tv series telling tales of teenage angst combined with vampires, werewolves, witches and the supernatural. In it two (not unattractive) vampire brothers compete for the affections of one girl and they all try to come to terms with growing up (or not in the case of the vampires) as well as trying not to get killed by various supernatural baddies. I know it's sad but I just love it, love it, love it and I have glutted on 44 episodes in the last two weeks since I discovered it

So ladies, I've told you mine, now what is everyone elses guilty pleasure? (apart from this bus of course)

Welcome back stork, I remember you from January. That's when we started ttc too!

Just an update on my dtd marathon - 5 times in 8 days, 2 more to go!!!!

am86 TTC#1 af due sometime around 20th.
desperateoldie67 (43) ttc#1 AF due 23rd August
KinkyDorito (32) ttc #3 AF due 24th Aug
Harryan(30) ttc #3 AF due 25th Aug
MorningCoffee (29) TTC#3 Af due 27th August
Bleats (31) TTC#1 af due 31st Aug ish
Mersea (39) TTC1 AF due 1st Sept.
FloydieDoydie (32) TTC1, CD6 AF due 3rd Sept (approx)
Pipbin (36) ttc#1 AF due sept 3 (aprox)
HorseyGirl1 (39) ttc 1 AF due Sept 3 (approx)
Spuddybean (34) ttc#1 AF is due 5 sept.
MyCatLikesToHideInBoxes (37) ttc#2 AF due 5th Sept(ish)
Byrnsie30 (30) ttc#1 OV due 21/22 Aug, AF 7th Sept
minipie (31) ttc#1 AF due 7 Sept
harmonyb23 (23) TTC #3 AF due Sept 11th
WaitingforStork (27) ttc#1 AF due Sept 13th
180 (37) ttc#3 AF 14th Sept ish
BartletForAmerica (30) ttc#2 AF due 16th Sept (cycle a bit dodgy)
Clandy (23) ttc baby 2 af due.. Erm no idea
Imustbecrazy(26) ttc#2 no idea at the min as still not had Aug af!!!
bridgieboo (35) ttc #2 no idea about AF
crystaltea36 (27) ttc #1 AF came today

Hello everyone, it's been a long time since I jumped on a bus, probably the January bus was the last one I was on. Been trying for our first since January with not a hint of a BFP so got a bit down and stayed away for a while but back now with renewed optimisim so can I have a ticket pleasy please???

My DH is away quite a bit with work which doesn't help but he's home between cd10 and cd20 this month so getting my hopes up already, he knows what he's in for.

Away to read back over the last couple of pages to catch up on the gossip and find the most up to date stats so I can add myself in but just wanted to say a big hello, good morning and good luck to everyone!

Sounds like this thread is getting a bit saucy!!

Quick question because am now on cd51 and still no af and loads of bfn so am just trying to get on with it and carry on as normal. Can i still be ovulating even if im not getting af probably asking a silly question but need to cling on to som hope?????

Blimey Byrnsie...get to it gal! :o

That's really interesting Cats...I'm wondering if my DP is the same...cos he proper jumped on me a couple of weeks back, so maybe it IS the pheromones. Maybe I ought to try sexy undies a bit more often though, just for good measure :o

Hey all,

Glad to hear things are on the up spuddy - such silly men!!

That's an interesting theory cats, I like it

I got my smiley on CB digital ov tests today. It pleases me when I ov on the exact day the on-line calculator predicted. It assures me that my body is working despite the amount of time it is taking to conceive!

We are doing well with swi and have managed 4 times in the last 7 days . Just have to dtd today, tue and wed now so that I feel we've covered all possible conception days. Wed would be just for good measure

I shall have to get out the sexy undies, little outfits etc to spur DH on!! x

Hi all, not been on for a while. Was feeling really ill last week - long story short, on and off I get fatigue, joint and muscle pain, hair loss, brain fog amongst other symptoms... I think it's hormone related (oestrogen dominance) as I've been charting it and my symptoms seems to tie in with cycle - my doctor wasn't convinced and ran a load of blood tests to test everything except my hormone levels which have all come back clear so now she's told me it's just part of being a woman and all women feel bad from time to time (in other words, it's not as bad as you're making out, just deal with it). I am so pissed off it's untrue - I bet if it was her quality of life being affected she'd do something about it!

Anyway, rant over - I'm feeling much better now and more like the old me after ov'ing on wednesday and, even though it took every ounce of the little energy I had, we still managed to get some swi in.

Spuddy - I'm so glad you got things sorted with your dp (and some v nice underwear into the bargain!)

Good job everyone else too - what a bunch of sex maniacs temptresses we have on the minibus this month...

On the topic of libido me and dh have discovered something a bit strange - neither of us have a particularly high sex drive but we have just noticed that my dh gets frisky a couple of days before I ov every month without fail. He usually beats the smiley face on the opk by about a day. What do you reckon - proof that pheromones really exist?

And Bleats...? I really do wish people would stop rubbing it in about the rumpy pumpy! :o

LOL

Blimey Floydie - it's 14 years in our case - now I really DO feel like a cradle snatcher! Bwahahahaha! But he's all young and beautiful and he cracked on to me (not the other way around), which somehow makes it better :)

Glad to hear you're getting some...wish I could say the same! Roll on next Saturday night! Yeeeehaw :o

Indeed I did desperate Though fat lot of use it will probably have done!

Funnily enough, my DP is also a toyboy - 7 years in our case. He should be raring to go at 25 years old!

Nice one Bleats

Floydie...do I understand from your last post that you got yer leg over?! Bwahahahaha! Good for you :)

My DP is away until next Saturday and, like you, I'm gagging for it, even if I feel like gagging most of the time. I'm sure a bit of nookie with gorgeous toy boy would take my mind off the almost constant nausea! :o