Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

Cross posted!

Thanks for the wise words and welcome Manda and - eeek! Bloody nora!

Can't write more at the moment but will be back later.

Wooah, Missgiraffe1, I'm impressed! I was meant to be starting classes with a friend when we moved but got the BFP instead so it didn't happen. I am meant to be starting again though once I am back to my normal self. Are you generally pretty fit? I am prob fitter than average but it tends to simply cancel out the crap / booze rather than make me look particularly fit.

Well, well, I am gone for a little over 24 hours and look what happens!

Firstly, welcome to babydino, Hob and Late As already said, we're happy to have you although sad about the circumstances that have led you here. I will also reiterate what has already been said about being patient WITH YOURSELF and to expect things to be very up and down - even for women who are physically ok vey soon, the emotional side will suddenly hit. Or, you actually think you're fine and are not dwelling... yet keep arguing with DH or finding yourself angry/snappy... Seriously, this time is difficult, even when it seem easy.

I will also add that very soon after my mmc, I was utterly desperate to get pg, and yet have found myself wobbling (HARD!) around O the last two months, feeling I didn't want it at all!

I guess I'm saying there are no hard and fast rules, we all process stuff differently, but there is a sense that we have ALL been all over the place emotionally. I think it's really important to actually feel what you're feeling, iyswim? To just push it to the back of your mind and look forward, go to work as normal, may not be the best idea.

But, again, we're all different.

Here I am the big echo again, the ladies on this thread are quite amazing. SUpportive, funny, intelligent. This thread has been a life saver.

Now, IQ please don't mae my heart stop like that! I can imagine how worried you were/are. Thank goodness for your sister (I'm liking the sound of her!). And, you do know that some spotting in early pregnancy can be very ery normal, right? Especially if you have no pain. So, I'm happy to hear it's tailed off and everything is tightly crossed that you get good news tomorrow (remind us of the time of your scan?).

And now for the me, me, me bit.

So, I got up this morning and thought 'I'll take one of the 'new' ic's I have as kind of a control - it's too early to test, considering I figured I O'd on saturday - cd20.

I dipped, laid it on the windowsill, then came to the lappy to put my temp into fertility friend; which promptly gave me cross hairs for THursday - cd18. Hmm. Then I go and make my coffee and potter about in the kitchen tidyin up a bit. Then DP gets up and a few minutes later notices the test layin on the sill.

'Is this an ovulation one?' he asks, knowing I was still taking them up until yesterday as I haven't had a positive yet this month.

'No, that's why is says hcg on the handle'

'Have you seen it?'

'No... I haven't looked at it'

So I zoom across the room and there's a super faint line.

'It's too early', I say

'Not for my super sperm, it isn't'

As I was looking for other instances of bfp at 5 dpo (and not expecting to find any!) I remembered my temp on cd15 that I discarded... I UNdiscarded it, and then I get dotted crosshairs for cd14, making me 9dpo. Now we're in the realms of possibility, and the line looks kinda similar to what I was getting last time at this point.

THing is, it was after the time limit, so I can't help thinking EVAP! And, of course, I poured my fmu away not thinking I was testing seriously so...

I have to bloody wait until the morning to test again/record another temp.

Time for some serious metalling, I think (even though the little voice in my head is calling evap)

IQ so glad to hear the bleeding has tailed off, and lol to your sis's 'encouragement'. Sometimes a voice of reason is badly needed since, post MC, we appear to have zero capacity to think rationally. Hoping and praying for happy news tomorrow x

And, welcome Late , so sorry you have to be here of course, but I'm sure you will find great support on this thread (my earlier post was a very quick one to IQ - my HTC phone is rubbish for posting messages on MN, much to my annoyance, especially as I am now on here way more than anything else! Which, of course, is a testiment to the ladies on here )

Hope everyone is ok today. Legs, Bums & Tums tonight, followed by bodypump immediately after. First time I'll have done the 2 classes together in weeks. I am going to be so sore tomorrow!

hope last post made sense, am writing while doing 3 other things and also having DH talk to me about painting tables!

IQ that sounds positive, fingers crossed for your scan tomorrow and really hoping it was just a scare.

LatetoThis I'm so sorry you're going through this too, our stories are so similar - it took us 7 months to get our first BFP so I too am hoping to get TTC again asap and that it doesn't take as long this time.

I had a couple of tearful moments yesterday, mainly because I know that if and when I do get pregnant again all I will feel is anxiety rather than the heady excitement of last time.

Feeling more positive today though, as I've spoken to a few friends and relatives who, it turns out, have been through the same thing and gone on to have healthy little ones.

IQ looking back on previous posts, where you told me your MC story, the friend I had who had the bleeding and had to wait a week (who's now 24 weeks) is the same one who got pg immediatelly after a MC. Lets hope you are having the same run of luck as her in more ways than one!

Thank goodness you are not alone! And your sister sounds like just the right person to be with you at the moment. Someone equally fretty would drive me mad if I was in your shoes, so no nonsense is trhe way forward I think. Well done sis!
At least the scan is tomorrow and not, say, in a week. When my friend had the early bleeding she had to go for a scan and they couldn't find a heartbeat as it may, or may not, have been too small. Luckily she went back a week later and it was beating away big time and she is now 24 weeks.
Bet you are living up to your nickname InsomniaQueen big time at the moment! Hang on in there! xx

Morning all,
Well no more bleeding this morning and only a tiny bit during the night so trying to stay positive as I haven't had any pain or any problems. DH is away from home but my sis is here.....she actually came to be with me for the scan so was lucky that she was here at the time. It currently feels like tomorrow is a life time away but I suppose as every hour passes it is a bit closer.

Just got to manage to get through this until tomorrow when I have my scan.....fingers crossed that it is all ok. Additionally I think that if this pg actually gets to that point I will have to have my sister there during labour - I think her no nonsense approach and generally threatening me with bodily harm helped me to pull myself together and get some rest. She said "in the movies when someone is hysterical and their friend slaps them.......if you carry on that is what I'm going to do to you"........it might not have been what I wanted to hear but I needed it!!

Also trying not to focus in on my own problems - welcome to late - these are the best ladies ever and it's a wonderful place to let it all out and be supported in all the highs and lows of life, relationships, MC, TTC, dc's and anything else happening at that time.

Love to you all!!! Xxxx

IQ I am meant to be rushing off out but couldn't just to read and then write later. I want you to know I have EVERYTHING crossed for you. Two of my friends had bleeding in early pregnancy after a prrevious miscarriage and it was all fine. I realise that bleeding can mean good or bad, unfortunately, but thought I'd say it all the same. Easier said than done, I realise, but try and take care of yourself and try not to stress too much (ha! possibly some of the least likely to be followed advice ever!) Hugs xx

LatetoThis hello. Sorry to hear you are going through the same shite as the rest of us have gone through. I too wanted it 'over' once I found out that development had stopped at 6-7ish weeks. I found it easy, most of the time, not to think of it as a baby as such, (I think if I let myself I would have gone a bit bonkers) but as something that could have been a baby but, sadly, this time it wasn't to be. I too am keen to try again but DH is more reluctant due to the fact we have just moved into a building site and are currently very short of cash. You may find your emotions swing madly up and down though (mine did) so brace yourself for this.

IQ ditto what missg has said, I am praying that it's just some spotting that is common in pregnancy and nothing more. Will keep my fingers crossed for you that everything is okay at your scan today and you come back with good news. xxx I can't remember if you said your DH would be coming to the scan with you, if not is there somebody else that can hold your hand?

Welcome late, sorry you have found yourself here but it's an amazingly supportive thread, i'd be lost without it!

IQ really hoping this means nothing and is just one of those random things. Hope you're bearing up ok. X

IQ how are you this morning? Really hope you managed to get some sleep last night...thinking of you!! Is DH away again at the moment? Is there someone who can come and be with you to help you get through the next 24hrs until the scan...which I'm sure will feel like an absolute eternity! Big [hugs] for you!

latetothis hello...so sorry you are having to go through all of this as well. As whatso said try and give yourself time and space, the trauma of this experience will crop up randomly and knock you physically and emotionally...there's no normal pattern. Enjoy a few glasses of and take it easy this week if you can.

Think AF may be taking her leave already which seems a bit quick...though it has been pretty heavy, so will have to wait and see will come back to check on you IQ v soon...

IQ oh no, I hope the doctor has got back to you by the time I post this. I'm praying it is harmless, stops soon and your little one stays put.

LateToThis welcome, sorry to hear of your loss. We all have different experiences and stories but the common thread is you need to give yourself plenty of time and space as you may feel so up and down as the days pass. This is a great place to share it all.

Just had the Dr on the phone - said there's nothing he can do - just have to "cross our fingers" and wait and see. Have to get through the next 30ish hours until my scan and hope that things will still be ok. He suggested that I rest and so I'm staying home tomorrow in hopes that it settles down and isn't there tomorrow.

God my hands are shaking and I feel sick......need to try to get some sleep - not sure how the hell I'm going to do that!!!!

Ladies I'm having a MELTDOWN.....just been to toilet and found I'm bleeding - only a tiny bit and i dont have any pain but after the last time I'm totally freaking out!!!!

Just called the out of hours Dr and waiting for them to call me back. I can't believe this is happening - my scan is only on wednesday......just don't even know what to do with myself right now.

Hello ladies, I have just found this thread and read hobnob's story - we are travelling the same road, unfortunately. Until this morning I was 10+3. I started spotting last Tuesday, went to A&E on Saturday evening because the bleeding had got heavier and they said I needed to go to the EPU. I went there today and they said the pip had stopped growing at 4 weeks and hopefully it will all clear out over the next few days... I have to go back next Monday to see if it's all gone, & have it sorted out if not.

I've had a really good cry, pulled myself together & went into work this afternoon. Did me good I think, I'm still gutted & upset, but not so teary and emotional. It's funny, but already I don't feel pg - even though it's still in there I don't feel any connection to it & just want it all to be cleared out so I can get on with getting the next bfp!

DH is feeling similar to me, sad but realistic & looking forward to getting going again (of course he is! ) In the meantime, I've just enjoyed a lovely large glass of wine, my first for quite a while!

I'm 37 (38 in a few weeks), TTC#1 and it took 6 months to get my first bfp, hope it doesn't take that long to get my second...!

I don't mention OPKs to my DP ! I think if he knew when I was ovulating (maybe he can guess but I don't verbally say!) then it might put him under too much pressure~!

Hmm. Sounds interesting but maybe I wait until me and DH have 'another chat' before I freak him out with OPK's and the like! Baby steps (so to speak!)

babys I use temp charting via the fertility friend and also use OPKs (cheapies from Amazon then use the CB digital one to confirm as the lines on the ICs can be a bit misleading sometimes). It's been really insightful !

The 'taking charge of your fertility book' by toni (can't remember surname) is also really good x

Thanks for the info re how your DH's were about trying again. Mine can be a bit of a fretter, and is currently now in house sorting mode. This is perfectly understandable as it more of a renovation project than a decorating job. This is all quite weird as I had so many freak outs when I was very early pregnant that I almost wished it hadn't happened. Now, I can think of nothing I want more!
I am going to have to leave it a while - this is not great as once I get an idea in my head etc etc - and then bring it up again. He does have very valid points re the cash situation (this was one of the catalysts for my previous early pregnancy freak outs) and as we are both self employed it would be him being the main earner with the bulk of the responsibility but we're not getting any younger! I realise that the cusp of 37 isn't that old but it's not terribly young either especially if, god forbid, I miscarry again and we get back to square one again. Whatsoever like you, I feel as if trying again would help too. Even if we do live in a building site!

So, how many of you are actively trying and are you also using OPK's or similar? Did you find that your cycles were all over the place for a few months? Piemistress that seems to be the case with you from your above post....? I have to be honest, I only ever really guessed at when I was likely to be ov in the three months we were TTCing before and as it seemed to work I don't really know what I am looking for!

Cross post - waves to Pie!

baby my DH was funny about starting again. We had to have a heart to heart a couple of times as he thought I wasn't ready because I was still upset. I had to explain the only way for me to feel better would be to have another baby, which eventually persuaded him! We started TTC again a few days before my first AF after the ERPC arrived.

Hi Peeps,

So much to catch up on after the weekend!! Mwahhhh! Apologies advance for my mammoth post!

Firstly hi to babysaurus and hob, sorry you had to find yourselves here but, you couldn't ask for a more supportive thread with a lovely bunch of ladies!:) My DH was keen to start trying again. I think it's because we really don't have age on our side (he's 42 and i'm 39 next month)

I started spotting at 7 weeks (early May), very light for a couple of days but with cramps. I had a scan at the EPU 2 days later (before any major blood loss) which showed a fetal pole that measured 5/6 weeks. I KNEW my dates weren't wrong but they told me to come back a week later. I lost the 'sac' that afternoon :( I then bled for a month and didn't get a bfn for over 6 weeks (had to get anti biotics due to 'retained' product that was too small for an ERPC). I'm now on my first proper cycle post m/c and in the 2ww.

So, apologies if i've missed things out! This is what happens when I don't post for a couple of days!

summer are you still in Edinburgh and having a blast !!

whats Ibiza! I'm well jel! :) I could do with a holiday there just now. It is very horrible, grey and wet in Scotland today - pah!

IQ - thinking of you for tomorrow xx how are the bowel movements today

marathon thanks for starting the new thread! Glad you are feeling queasy IYSWIM!!

eve I sobbed through lovely bones too! So sad :( I chart using fertility friend. I find it really useful in giving me an indication of whether or not i'm pre or post ovulation and how many dpo I am and getting a feel for my (too short am sure) luteal phase. If you put in your temps and cervical fluid (!) and OPKs (optional) it can give you an indication of when you ov and then based on when you DTD give you a 'score' for that month!

poppy oooo which festival are you going to and where are you off to in August! I know what you mean about erratic sleep and temp taking. Mine is never after 3hrs straight sleep!

missg I was really sorry to read about your mum xxxxxxx I feel like i'm having a right old WTF cycle this month and am very vexed!

blue sorry to hear about your AF cramps, boooo to the witch!! I've been cramping too but haven't got a clue what's going on this cycle GRRRRR Your interior design course sounds fab!! I've had a few of your choccy brownies, thanks!!!

Waves to shimmery and manda !!

I'm now 8dpo and it's all been very very strange this month. Firsty I ov'd (according to FF) on 12dpo (instead of my usual 17dpo) and have started SPOTTING TODAY FFS, ARGHGHGHGHG! Sorry for the caps but I am not a happy bunny as that means an incredibly short LP. It's only been pink and when I wipe so far but I had this for 2 days last month before AF showed up! I also woke up about 1am on Saturday morning and had to run downstairs and be sick (6dpo so far too early for 'morning sickness') I'd felt queasy all of Friday night and spent most of the early hours on the sofa feeling most unwell. I am so so so upset by this spotting :( My temps have been very erratic too so I really haven't got a scooby! It was quite high this morning but when I took it randomly tonight it was very very low (not sure if that makes a difference or not but aren't your temps lower in the morning?) so am fully expecting AF to make an appearance any day.

If so I'll be back at the GP about my short LP but not sure what they will say/do or I might try and self rememdy with 50mg of B6 and a vitamin B complex but i'm already take a conception multi-vitamin (although only 10mg of B6 in it).

Sorry for waffle, I think my head might explode at the moment as i'm so *** off with it all! Why does it have to be so hard!!! Sorry for my rant ladies xxx

Waiter, a bottle of chilled sauvignon blanc here please! :)