Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

ps Eve you must be bonkers!

Have just had a ponder and thought I would ask you lot. When you were (or are in the cases of some lucky buggers) pg did you realise / feel it before you tested? I ask as I only realised I was a few days late and so POAS (when DH was out, if I thought it would have been positive I'd have waited till he was back home.) The symptoms seemed to come thick and fast about a week after that, but before then, nothing whatsoever.

The reason I am thinking this now is because I know I'll be symptom spotting like a mad thing once we start TTC and will have to remind myself, I suspect, that previously I had no idea.

Shimmery what a rockin' baby vest!!

Boo to bfn Manda but, as you said, you might just be too early for test to pick up. FX its a bfp soon! . Sounds like you're well stocked for testing anyway!

Summer I am CD 24 (I think I said I was CD22 yesterday, but for some reasons thought it was Tuesday yesterday!). Metalling like metal!! And it's an amazing album. I'm sure she could have surpassed it too, had her life not been so sadly cut short. At least she's left her mark in this world

Blue I empathise. I had exactly the same metalling incident last week, when I convinced myself AF hadn't actually AF at all. There's this little voice in your head that plants a tiny seed then it's metalling all the way to the bathroom. Given that we are not 100% sure of what our bodies are doing, I think random manic testing is just par for the course for the time being.

Thanks IQ One minute I want to test, next minute I don't. Scared either way!!

Eve 30?? 30 kids?? 30 kids camping all weekend?!?!? I take my hat off to you. I took DDs primary 7 class to laserquest as her birthday fell on the last ever day of primary school. I really only had to supervise for the 35mile bus journey, throughout lunch, and back home again (as I happily passed them over the the staff once we got them there). But I thought even that was a feat in itself!! Hope you have fun though, and hope you got that report witten. I would never leave work projects 'til the last minute...... erm, well hardly ever.... hmm actually....that's pretty much how I (rock n) roll most of the time.

Hi everyone else. Back to grey skies here after 5 days of glorious sunshine. Ah well, it was nice when it lasted.

blue I ditto your implantation spotting thoughts for summer !!

summer could I tentatively suggest that your spotting yesterday could be implantation and that you're being soooo patient waiting until the weekend to POAS?! Though I'm sure you've already thought of that and are possibly in denial, just happy to wait at the moment!

My morning has been insanely busy from the moment I got in the office...need several and feeling the need for cake too!! Better crack on again with it all now...

Summer I have now cried twice when they have repeated the last words of Mitch Winehouse's eulogy on the TV news. In fact I am welling up now thinking about it, so I won't type them. The most frustrating thing about growing up (at 30 I still think it is something yet to happen to me) is realising that you can't fix people, and that must have permeated every day for Mitch and Janis in terms of their daughter

Anyway, I will stop talking sad stuff now. AF seems to have ended, fingers crossed it doesn't return. Tonight I shall be trying on dresses for the wedding I am going to on Saturday. There are several choices, none new, but I hoping with the help of spanx to get into a size 12 (a size smaller than I currently am) black/red/white shift dress

Blue your peeing on a stick straight after AF made me chuckle.

The one thing I seem to be OK at is resisting the POAS urge. I have only ever done it when I have been late (with my slightly irregular cycle length AF has usually arrived a day or two later anyway). I think I find the BFNs a bit of a slap in the face so I want to see as few of them as possible. The only good one was the post-MMC one as it meant get on with SWI

IQ loving your sis' sympathetic pregnancy!

shimmery sending wishes for a speedy AF so you can get back at it

[Waves to all other metalling inmates ]

Hello everyone! I did read the thread yesterday but wasn't able to respond. I have a new Blackberry and the screen seems to be either mini or huge so it was tricky. Hopefully I'll get used to it very soon and can catch up when out and about.

I logged in specifically yesterday to see how IQ got on. All I can say is HURRAH! That made my day! Thank goodness!

The other news I was looking out for was Manda's peeing on a stick developments. Shame it doesn't seem to be the news that was hoped for but, ever the optimist, lets hope it's just too early to tell!

I won't scroll back up to the top and look to see who wrote about cervical sludge and pregnancy but wanted to add, to whoever it was who asked, I had LOADS of it when pg. It was really obvious! Well, to me in private it was, I don't mean it was dripping down my leg or anything

Right, have lots to do but am lurking even if I am not posting! Bye for now... x

missg I had forgotten about the blue pee! oh if only ? then the conception threads in mumsnet would prob not exist! And your little post here is my mantra for the week ?Chin up, boobs out, and PMA all the way to that BFP?

marathon YY you sound just like me, I threw out my lovely PJs I wore in hospital when I had my MC as I was convinced they were jinxed, now I am feeling a little about it! Hoping your cardi is black/purple/midnight blue/claret with a skull and crossbones on the back of it - obviously for the ?rock? look!

manda so if you were only 4DPO yesterday then you have a few days yet? crap about the BFN but maybe you were just a bit hasty (absolving all responsibility from myself obviously ? hides in corner) and you have 40 ICs! God I would be unstoppable! YY go for testing every day!!!

blue I thought your post said (about your friends 2week old babba) that you ?dropped dinner all over them? and am loving your analogy ? peeing over £5!

pie I googled about taking children to the dentist and lo and behold it enticed me back into mumsnet! there is an interview with a dentist which is really informative ? basically take them to the dentist when they get teeth. My DS is 2 so I am going to make an appt soon. here you go

shimmery that babygro is AWESOME DUUUDE! about AF. DH said the same to me if we get caught this month ? he said he wants more dedication from me honestly ? get yourself a fully loaded coffee, blue cheese, and some and pate tonight!

eve what is your job? It sounds intriguing ? report writing for funders and camping with children..? are you a better version of ?Melody from d?apprentice? where you get the best potential out of children (did anyone ever work out exactly what it was she does?).

IQ glad you are feeling good today, I know it is easy for me to say but please try not to worry about the spotting, remember the little heartbeat you saw yesterday

And yes IQ I see what you did there ? giving me a piece of my own advice BTW your sister sounds hilarious!

Waves to baby late (if you are still lurking) whatso poppy hobnob mrsn and cuttle

Now then onto me ? my metalling is completely ramped up to the max volume ? my neighbours are complaining about the racket as Lemmy is totally belting out the toooons.

So I am CD25, I think I am 15DPO but I could be 14DPO as my OV pains started on the Wednesday into the Thursday but the EWCM didn?t come until the Thursday, so does it count from when it starts or from when it is in full mode??? AF could come tonight but then it could come on Sunday? the last two months I have tested too early and been but then I could be PG! I had AF cramps on Tuesday, brown spotting yesterday morning and nothing since?

I was doing the ironing last night whilst listening to my Amy Winehouse Back to Black album. Was in floods of tears ? the album is so poignant now Also when I tucked up DS last night I said without thinking ?goodnight my angel ? mummy loves you very much? almost to the word what Mitch Winehouse said at the funeral yesterday

Morning all!

Have a night out planned with the lads I used to work with tonight which will be fun, though does mean that I don't get to see DH again...he's on lates this week so asleep when I leave in the morning and I'm asleep when he gets home...roll on tomorrow eve when I might actually see him!! Not sure how these new shifts will work for SWI when we get to that point

Anyway...enough waffling, must finish getting ready for work...catch you all later!

Morning all - thought I would get my post in before you all woke up as I couldn't have caught up otherwise.....you lot move far too quickly!!! Firstly thanks to everyone for your messages I feel ok about things just wish this spotting would go away. Gonna call the midwife today and just see if she has any suggestions. Bought a new bag yesterday to treat myself as I will be hardcore saving from September. No due date as of yet but the sonographer said between 5 and 6 weeks. I haven't been able to get hold of him but have text him so he will get that as soon as he gets back to work where he had to leave his phone.

Manda now that is pretty strange - I shall await any and all news impatiently hopefully!!!

blue how goes it with the witch? Just to out myself I POAS during and after AF in the first months TTC as I had convinced myself I was one of those people who are pg but still get an AF......your brain can seriously mess with you at times.

summer I'm very about your weekend.....sounds like you had a ball....luckily is my anniversary in a few weeks and were going to Weymouth for a weekend where I plan to stuff myself with candy floss and mini doughnuts!!! I know what you mean about not wasting digi's they are bloody expensive but as you so eloquently put it "FFS put us out of our misery and POAS"....fans self and sits down......he he he!!!

eve 40lbs - what are you superwoman? Hope you got your reports sorted - I shall think of you at camp over the weekend....hope it all goes well!!

baby how are you doing now? Glad your getting some helpers - hope this helps loads towards sorting out the building site!!

shimmery damn the AF but glad your feeling upbeat. thanks for the outfit - my DH would love it.....he is a masive ac/dc, led zep, kiss ect fan and has decided that "his child" is going to play guitar and they are going to have jamming sessions with him in the drums......there is nothing like getting ahead of yourself is there !!

whatso hope the witch leaves and doesn't think about coming back for round two!!!

MissG keeping it all crossed for you!!! Xxxx

marathon you are not mad - mad is my sister and her sympathetic pregnancy - last night she looked up and said "god this bloating is doing my head in....how many weeks till this goes away" but I'm even more mad cos I actually started looking it up on line and it actually didnt figure in my mind for ages that she wasnt actually pg.....really we have just lost the plot!!! This and the jinxing jumper are just examples of how normally sensible women can get a 'notion' in their heads and then let themselves get carried away with said notion.

All are welcome in the padded cell - we only ask that you metal like you mean it and come up with equally good notions as the sympathetic pg and the jinxing jumper......me and marathon need other people to join us in our behaviour!!

Hi to cuttlefish, mrsnesbit, poppy, lady and hobnob!!!!

Right well that was epically long but it think I got everyone....if I missed you I'm very sorry .

Love to all!!! Xxxx

pie that article is excellent! I must confess to having done a few of those things in the 2ww's I have experienced...oh dear oh dear what are we coming to eh?! Slooowwlly going insane...all of us...just look what the desire to reproduce does to our normally sensible and rational minds!!

eve hope the report is going well!

I've been for a nice walk and chatted to friends rather than doing any study tonight and have another evening out planned tomorrow...a busy weekend ahead catching up methinks!

Anyway...laptop moaning it's out of battery and I can't be bothered to get out of bed and go and get the power cable so it's night night from me...sleep well all!

Evening all

Just a quick one to say hi and escape from my report writing - note to self do not leave report writing til the night before a meeting with your funders!!!

Those who asked DS is 4. I took him once he turned 3 as my dentist suggested. First time he just looked in her room and watched me. second time he stood and let the dentist count his teeth. This time he skipped in, jump in the chair and had his teeth polished.

Miss G - how exciting - really hope we all soon get our BFP can't believe how many we are getting so soon.

It is nearly the weekend think of me 30 kids and activities not for me I will supervise.

Hey ladies and YES! IQ you rock. Such amazingly fantastic news :)

PS - I enjoyed this article!

bellybelly.com.au/conception/two-week-wait-activity-list

Evening Peeps!

manda i'd be doing exactly the same thing if I had a stash of ICs (I normally do every cycle but decided not to buy any this month and go 'cold turkey' which i've blatantly failed at as had to buy Superdrug tests in my need to POAS - bfn at 10dpo - PAH!) I think some Led Zeppelin might suit a bit of light mental-ite

eve 40lbs! That is AMAZING!!!! I was also wondering at what age I should introduce DS to the dentist's chair? He is a very reluctant tooth brusher!

summer you have incredible willpower! There is no way I couldn't test at 14dpo! But, you are right it does save the disappointment of testing too early which I am so so guilty of. Dunno why I do it to myself! Just so desperate to be pregnant again!

missg I checked my FF chart for the month I got PG and I had creamy CM too

blue I have poas during AF before

whats fingers crossed AF does one very soon so you can get busy!

Well, DS has had a very very odd rash for a few days now which gets worse when he's in the bath so took him to the GP who said it's a viral rash and to keep an eye on it and should right itself in a couple of weeks and 'oh, keep him away from any pregnant women' (!!!) Ok, so that freaked me out although I know deep down i'm not up the duff this month. I did Dr Google about it though - bad bad bad me!

Does anybody know what can cause pre AF spotting? I am seriously dressed head to toe in black right now (but with silver steel toe capped DM boots) and getting right on some techno music, not strictly metal but YKWIM!) Ha, reality is more like jogging bottoms and a very scabby climbing t-shirt covered in DS's toothpaste!

I'm going to sit in the sunshine and read my book, tomorrow is back to rain, rain,rain

Big wave to everybody else, who have i missed IQ, marathon shimmery poppy lady babys cuttle hobnob mrsn and some snakebite & black for the mosh pit!

manda I too have a huge stash of IC's and last week I ordered a pack of 2 CB digi sticks which give weeks too as I thought desperately hoped that I might need them this week...but then AF came on Sunday, so now I have them all stashed and ready to tempt me this cycle!! Happy POASing here's hoping for good news some time in the next few days and not a visit from she-who-shall-not-be-named!!

Hehe, don't worry blue I was only jesting - I'd also be encouraging becoming a poas pusher if any one of you had said the things I did!

I think, in all honesty, given I really don't actually know how many dpo I am (the three sets of crosshairs fertility friend give me as O days when I make slight alterations sugest I could be 10, 6 or 4 dpo) that I'll probaby test each morning. I have around 40 ic's so... why not?

Oh manda so sorry if we've all been a bit too encouraging super pushy about you POAS...guess it just goes to prove that our bodies are still likely to be a bit all over the place after MC etc...what a pain! Are you going to test again in the morning just to be sure or wait now since you think you may only be 4DPO?

Just seen my friend and her 2 week old little one...dropped dinner over for them...he DD is sooo mini and cute!

My brain has been doing crazy things trying to convince myself that my bloating and itchy nipples could mean a lot more than just AF finishing and that there might be some way that AF wasn't actually AF and that I should POAS...but think maybe all this talk of POAS is just going to my head and I need to go and find that rational place in my mind which seems to have utterly disappeared since we started TTC!

How's everyone else this evening? ...can't believe we're already half way through the week again!!

Well, because you were all so pushy encouraging, I held for six hours and it's looking like bfn. But, an opk as well on a whim I took was super dark - test line darker than the control so I'm as I'm sure I've O'd from my temps, just not entirely sure when.

I think, if I go with my gut, it was saturday. Which makes me 4 dpo. It must have been a yucky evap (although no evap this time).

I'm not that sad. Because Im really not sure I'm 10 dpo after all. And even if I am, it's still early to get a bfp. And even if I am, my lp was only 9 days last month so it's improved.

Sorry about getting you all excited for nada. I'm still so confused about where I am in my cycle that I'll continue to metal. Or, perhaps metal-lite. Which artist would you suggest for that?

IQ yaaaaaaaaay! Fabulous news that smallIQ is doing well in there. Managed to get the news to DH yet?

ps Blue you are so right about the torment of when to POAS. We can't win really!

Yes Summer and Manda, as Marathon says, POAS!

Pie. It can be hard to stay positive, can't it? BUT we are all going to get pg on this thread, I'm sure of it.
I would say it's only your second cycle, and it's early days yet, but that would sound patronising. I'm only in my first and it feels like an eternity. Chin up, boobs out, and PMA all the way to that BFP

Marathon I am trying my best to hold off. Don't have any in the house, and am still only half-dressed and have greasy hair (working from home has its perks). Don't want to ask DH to get me a test on the way home, as I did that last week (during my last metalling incident) and he was like "But I thought you weren't due to test for another week and a half". I was like "don't ask questions, just do what you're told" but then he could see the disappointment in my face when it was a BFN, so I will feel daft asking him to get another and he'll probably think its a bad idea if I do. Sigh.....

And welcome to the Jungle (see what I done there?!?! ) Cardigans do not jinx anything (Although, I had my 'lucky' cardigan on when my boyfriend in 2nd year dumped me . Me and my friends wrote horrible things about him all over it - then binned it before my folks saw the less-than-lady-like slurs What will you be next week, 6/7 weeks ish? I totally know what you mean about it feeling to soon though. If you're really not happy about it, tell them they will need to fit you in sometime later. (pft, Patient-led service my arse NHS)

Hi Whatso good to hear you're suitably attired for the metalling. My Mini Mouse PJ top and joggys really aren't cutting it

Feeling a bit left out of the padded cell and mosh pit so might just invite myself in anyway my excuse...AF seems to have gone

AF tailing off today (although it did that last month and then irriatatingly came back again). Just want it over with so I can get back to SWI, then get my Motorhead t-shirt on and join you lot in the moshpit