Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

Grrr...AF seems to be making a reappearance...or just spotting to let me know that she's still hanging around with a few mild cramps just for good measure...no wonder I've been feeling sluggish this evening! Only managed a rather than but might go in searcg of some chocolate to go with it now...

Evening all...hope everyone's been enjoying the sunshine this weekend...

baby hope the wallpapering went well...love the choice by the way!

missg how are you doing? Has the spotting amounted to anything yet? Hope you're doing ok an have had fun with your nephew!

marathon hope you got to have a snooze...feeling so tired is good!!

summer how are you doing?

pie so glad you had such a good day climbing...sounded fab! Interesting to see your comments on exercise and hormones...think that's a good encouragement to me to get up and do my exercise DVD in the morning as didn't manage it yesterday! It would make sense as I'm sure that the healthier we are the better our bodies function IYSWIM

Will catch up properly when we get home but just wanted to tell marathon to keep her chin up!!!!

I utterly refuse to give up on you and the pg......no symptoms doesn't always mean anything bad. I was sick yesterday and feel totally normal today!!! If your stressing about having a scan done why don't you ask for a blood test from the mid wife - they can check your hcg levels and then they will know where things are.

Going for an early scan was ridiculously scary and I was torn between not wanting to know if it was bad but being desperate to know if it was all ok. I know exactly what you mean about wanting to avoid bad news but what if it's good news, what if everything is perfect and then you can start to get your head around things and give your self some time to relax into this pg. Sending you huge hugs from casa IQ!!!

Xxxxx

Just popped on quickly. Had a funeral on Friday, out car shopping yesterday, and have my wee nephew just now, so barely a mo to catch up.

Summer OMG! OMG! OMG! Amazing news! Congrats!

Will catch up properly later.

Ps. no news here. CD27, brown spotting but think it's the beginning of AF rather than anything else. Reckon by time I log back on tonight, AF will be in full swing, and I'll be back on the

Right, 15 month old currently tearing up the upstairs. Talk later!

Back from a lovely long walk with my dog so feel as if the wine, which I will have AFTER I help DH with the wallpapering, is now justified.

PieMistress I live here . Realise I have prob outed myself now to the max, but am also guessing that anyone who knows me may have worked out who I was before now anyway. Also, the link instead of the name might keep me slightly hidden (grasping at straws!)

Shit - can't stay now as the wallpaper beckons. And then the lovely glass of wine...

typing on phone and the text keeps changing size so this will be short. MarathomMama, I have read loads of threads where people have said their symptoms have vanished but it was all okay. I know there are no guarantees either way with this baby making business, but try to keep positive! Easier said than done I know but aint over till the fat lady sings, right?!

Will be back later - this phone screen is doing my head in and I can't scrol up and down the thread easily either.

Hi Peepsicles,

Well I am feeling better today (despite the horrible heavy AF). DP & I had a really fantastic day out climbing in the mountains, it was blue skies and breezy (so no midgies!) and it was great to be cursing my way up a climb!! We then had a lovely pub supper afterwards before heading home.

I did quite a bit of googling yesterday about low progesterone and cycles after miscarriage and do feel better in that it's really common for cycles to be messed up for a while after m/c (still going to see GP on Friday though) and I read that exercise can really help regulate your body's hormones. When I conceived DS I was really pretty fit whereas the past 18 months (since he was born) i've basically done bugger all exercise so, with that in mind, I cycled to the library last night with all my books then climbed all day today. PMA PMA PMA !! I also did quite a bit of reading on the benefits of acupunture for fertility so might give that a go. Has anybody ever tried it? God I am sound like a woman obsessed

I think one of the reasons this thread works so well is because of the TLC we give each other (Lesley Regans miscarriage book and Zita Wests's pregnancy book both advocate the benefits of TLC in preventing miscarriage). So let's have a whoop whoop for all future happy and healthy pregnancies!!

marathon I know it's very hard but please don't try and assume the worst (I know I would probably be the same though!). Aside from one very brief spell of nausea (lasting a day) with DS I didn't have any symptoms at all until my bump appeared at about 18 weeks. I can understand that ignorance is bliss but if you could see a little bean it might help reassure you? How many weeks are you now?

summer just wanted to say again your news is awesome !!!

blue I totally understand about the SWI pressure. I sometimes find it quite hard to muster up the energy to do it so much and don't want to miss any opportunities!

baby the way I put it across to my DP initially was 'how about let's not try, not prevent' so that we wouldn't use any contraception and just see what happened. So not deliberately TTC but taking a more relaxed approach (I was obviously monitoring my EWCM and encouraging more SWI then but he wasn't aware of this!). Your house looks amazing by the way! Where abouts do you live? I love the wallpaper too!

IQ loving your sister symtom spotting! You must be very close :)

Well, i'm feeling very weary after today so time for a shower and a nice magnum with this week's Torchwood!!

Waves to everybody !! xx

Hi Summerbird, glad the mystique is currently very enjoyable! I ended up telling very good friends when I was pg as it would have been very obvious if I wasn't drinking (hmm, what does that say about me...?) We don't have a car either, and nor do I drive even if we did have a car, so saying I was driving all the time wouldn't have been an option either.

Its so good to speak to people who can relate so much to what I am saying and experiencing. I suppose, as I am only just out of the MC horridness (the physical aspect that is) you lot are a bit ahead of me really esp in terms of getting back into proper cycles or, eeek, the next BFP's! I can imagine him saying he wanted a break from it for a bit, which is understandable, but then he also thinks it would take next to no time to get pg again either. I guess also that men have a different feeling about the whole thing anyway, and men and women aren't as good at relating to each other about these things (bit shit really but there you go!)

So, enough rambling on like a stuck record. I have some news - but please don't bait your breath - one of our rooms, the first room in fact, is NEARLY done. Only the wallpaper (its only going on the chimmney breast) needs to go on and the final layer of varnish on the floor. DH has done an amazing job - previously the room had filthy swirly carpets, nicotine'd walls and 7 layers of wallpaper, crumbling plaster, rotten windowframe and so on - it's now got sanded floorboards, Jasmine white and smooth walls, a built in wardrobe he made from a chest of drawers and then making his own doors, coving and the original built in wardrobe all stripped and re painted. We hope to move into it tomorrow eve. My cousin bought us some champagne when we moved which we then didn't drink due to the BFP so thought that it would be nice to drink it once we are in the finished, only finished, room in the house.

One down and only seven more (if you include the hall) to go! Actually, I think it's better to think of it another way considering the bedroom took three months (DH does a fabulous job but is a BIG perfectionist!) The help in the form of his parents and brother, and maybe sister in law, come for a week on the 20th. This will hopefully make a big difference (although, not meaning to sound ingrateful, his parents and brother make DH look like a fast and slap dash worker!) to the progress too. I have been offering to do stuff all the time but he says he doesn't want me to, generally with the excuse that I've been ill recently but, I suspect, it may also be as he wants to do it himself 'properly.' Fair enough, I suppose! We'll get there in the end after all.

Am off to get wine. I shouldn't but what the hell!

Maybe back later.

(I love this thread!)

Thank you so much guys! This thread is ace - how sweet of pie to log on to check before going out

We have had a busy day today as we went to friends for lunch then DS had a birthday party this afternoon. I turned down two offers of saying that (a) i was driving and (b) i was too dehydrated from last night i almost enjoyed the mystique of it all!!

so i reckon i am due 9 April. Not telling anyone for a few weeks as i am actually only 3 weeks and 5 days preggy, not even past the late AF stage!!

We have loads of Becks Blue in from the last time so i can have a bottle of that tonight (good tip if you dont want to drink alcohol - it is practically alcohol free and much nicer than the other kinds)

baby i know exactly what you are going through, DH was like that before i convinced enticed him into having a babba. it must be difficult if he has a child already, but YOU do not have a child and this is about your partnership. maybe it is too soon after the MC? maybe he is devastated in a blokey way about it? maybe he thinks it is too soon for you and wanting to 'derail' the plans for a while? feel free to vent on here, we have all been there in one way or another.

anyway [waves] to all of you - i am loving how IQs sister is over on the thread in a virtual sense!!!

and i am staying on this thread too, we will all need moral support - i had a twang today and got into a panic - this is gonna be a long 8 months!!

BlueCrane thank you. It really does help 'talking' to someone who does know what it all feels like, and the ups and downs that is part of it. Also, as was said, writing things down does help get things in proper perspective. I also don't want to go on about it too much to DH at the moment as I don't want to seem obsessive, and every shag seem as if its for babies instead of fun.

Anyway, back to the good news of the day. I am still wondering who'll be next with the BFP!

manda any news from you?

How about you too missg ?

I KNEW IT! Yay, summer so very happy for you!

Whoop whoop...go summer fantastic news !!! I had a feeling that 'spotting' might be implantation!!! Yeah!!!

baby please don't worry about sharing here..I know sometimes it really helps me to write it all down and know that someone who understands will be reading it at some point! I think there's emotions for both of you which will still be up and down and you've got a lot going on with the house etc...I know my DH sometimes comes out with crazy suggestions which just don't take account of TTC/having a baby at all as he just hasn't put the dates together or figured it all out. In terms of how long it might take none of us know whether it will be quick or slow, the same time as last time or totally different unfortunately! Try and take it easy if you can but that's a lot easier said than done!

Since the MC I have been quite chilled about DTD but this morning the pressure for SWI suddenly got to me now that AF has gone and it all felt like we were so back to the start again...which of course we are...and just the thought of going through TTC again seemed a bit overwhelming though I do really want my BFP so I just need to crack on...which we did but it all feels very different this time...not so innocent or exciting as I know that when I do get there it's going to start a new wave of waiting!!

Sorry...didn't meant to splurge that, especially after summer's great news...what was the slogan...something about boobs out and PMA all the way...let's get back to that

Summer that's FABULOUS news! Whooppeeeeee! Fuckinell, it seems like we'll soon be getting BFP's from all corners (hopeful!) Wonder who's next....?!

I did log in last but didn't type as I didn't have much to add really. I am actually a bit envious as everyone seems to be, cycles permitting, getting stuck into TTCing and I am, unfortunately, not.

Me and DH went out for a drink last night and I intended to bring the subject up (I know its still very early days but it's playing on my mind constantly) and so I wanted to discuss it a bit more. I ended up getting quite wound up (I didn't show it as I didn't want TTCing to become An Issue rather than a positive thing) as he started talking about triathlons (we did one together two years ago, and I have done one before.) Bearing in mind, you have to book my Dec / Jan at the latest and the actual thing isn't till August its this one ) that's a whole year out. Its expensive too so booking a place but then dropping out is pretty stupid. And he was on about doing it next August! I used that as an excuse to bring up a 'well, we might be busy doing baby things then' and he nodded vaguely and said 'hmm' and then, from what I remember, changed the subject.

I later used the comparsion, and you may find this a bit weird but bear with me, about the cats. This comparison is that when our cat got run over, we were utterly devestated but the thing that made us feel a lot better was getting another 6 days later. The second cat did not replace the one we lost, but did make us feel better about the whole situation and look forward more. To this he said 'I know' and then it seemed really difficult to get him talking about it more. It is a bit like he was understanding about how I felt but thinking I was being a bit silly, and also not thinking of the cash / house blah blah blah situation. I also know, as he told me and it annoyed me, that he likes having me 'back' and we can go out to the pub or whatever together instead of me being in bed for 9pm and him sitting in the building site on his own.

I think I also have a simmering undercurrent of resentment that he has a DS (now 18) so this situation isn't the same for him as it is for me. I haven't brought this up with him as its something he cannot argue with, but its also not something he can help iyswim.

Personally, I would feel a lot better if he was a) more open and b) more enthusiastic instead of a vague 'I might feel differently in a few months' or 'lets think about it again in six months or so'. I realise I am being a bit OTT in some ways as I am not over 40 or whatever but I am concerned about missing the boat all the same. As I have been on lifelong medication, not been the cleanest living person ever (not that I am especially unhealthy either, see triathlons etc, but have had my fair share of benders and ciggies in the past all the same) I am concerned that if I have a MC again then the whole process gets shunted back again etc etc and it could easily get harder and harder. He is also still under the impression that it would not take long, and I hope it wouldn't too, as it didn't last time but this doesn't make it a definate for next time does it?

Sorry to go on. I think this is helping to type it all down as I am getting things more straight in my head. I can see, I think, that I am getting wound up very prematurely and really just need to wait and see for a few months how things settle down cycle wise. I suspect though that you ladies in particular may know quite how hard that can be!

Lastly, I promise I am not normally this self obsessed!

Not my hear my head!!!

Just had a lovely cup of tea.....obviously the bean did not agree as it quickly made a reappearance!!!!

I was kneeling with my hear in the toilet and my sister said "do your ribs hurt cos mine do"......I said yes and then was promptly sick.

My sis was on form (as usual) and looked up and said "I swear to god if I start being sick now I'm gonna do you in"....it's so nice that I have someone here to pamper me while I'm emptying my stomach......!!!

FANTASTIC NEWS summer whoop whoop! I'd logged on especially to see if you'd tested before we left for the day and am so giddy to see it's a BFP! Go girl! xxxxxx

Omg omg omg!!!!!

Currently doing victory dance and my two little pups are giving me a weird look......!!!

Welcome to the club summer......sooooooo happy for you....this is turning into a lucky thread!!!!
Xxxx

anyone up yet?

BFP!!!

i gave in and tested last night, i was bathing DS and suddenly felt all nauseous and dizzy. told DH and he said no dont test till sunday i knew for sure when i couldnt manage my second glass of wine! so tested at 11pm last night!!

Thanks guys. It was quite unexpected about my uncle (he'd always been healthy). Apparently it was a heart attack. I'm originally from Yorkshire, though most of my family are on the Yorkshire/Lancashire border (trying not to be too specific in case of outage).

This is a quick post (at work and have to go to a dinner tonight) so I'll catch up properly tomorrow.

s'okay manda DH is coming home early and we have some blue cheese to use up in the fridge so i am back to testing tomorrow morning! how bad is that?? i also want a relaxing bottle of with DH. but also mentalling that if i am PG then i am harming my bean!

this is the one time i hope DS wakes at 4am so i can get up and POAS give him a cuddle!

baby forgot to answer your question. I did suspect I was pregnant when I got my BFP. I had sore boobs and was very tired and weeing a lot. I tested on the day AF was due (vaguely, given my slightly changeable cycle). However, and it's a big however, I had convinced myself I was pregnant in previous months due to bloating and sore boobs, and it had just been PMS on those occasions!

Pie not entirely sure when I ovulate. I'm not a temper or charter so I'm a bit clueless. I did the POAS ovulation tests for a couple of months and 1 month it was day 16 and the next month I didn't get a positive test by day 16 and then we went to stay with my bro and I didn't take them with me, so I never found out. We gave up after that and moved to the SWI every other day method and it worked first time so I never got any better at knowing my ovulation timing.

On that basis I guess we could be OK timewise when DH gets back from Japan and the holiday SWI I am planning may not be in vain

Hope you have a great time climbing and come back feeling refreshed.

summer fingers crossed for good news!