Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

Morning all...so tired this morning as we had friends have to escape their flat in Ealing and come to stay with us around midnight so have been up half the night! Just can't believe the scenes we're seeing across London and the UK...just unbelievable! Thankfully no trouble where we are but there were sirens racing down the main road at 2am...really hoping we don't have a rerun tonight!!

Hope everyone else is ok?

Will do a proper catch up later on when I'm at work when I've woken up a bit more!

So much catching up to do as my ipad died over the weekend and I couldn't get on properly!!!

Blue - sorry your surrounded by bumps....but it will be your turn soon (PMA hat on)!! Glad you and dh had a good chat though...that always seems to help and assignment complete...YAY!!! Next scan is 17th so starting to get that sickly worried feeling all over again. NYC....yes please...that will be fab if you can convince dh on your need to shop!

Manda - sorry af got you....bloody crap! Your not falling apart and going to counselling isn't admitting defeat - you need help to talk through everything that has happened and in many ways professional and neutral help can give you the space to get these things out!

Summer - loved your "stop foraging in your fanjo" comment....made me giggle loads!!! Sunday morning pj's at 10am - I like your style!

Pie - acupuncture sounds fab - keeping everything crossed that it helps you along! That hair removal link cracked me up....told DH about it and he said "really its a wonder you lot get any work done"....obviously I indignantly defended us all but didn't want to admit that we seem to update loads in work hours but not so much over the weekend!!!

boobeez - sorry you got a bfn.....maybe next month will be your month - fully agree with the other ladies on internet cheapies - pre bfp I always had a good stock.

Eve - glad your working week has started off well and that you get your swi in on your hoped for days!! Wow you do keep busy, my social calender is mostly empty until november.

Baby - that is totally a man thing thinking that it will all magically fall into place....bless them!!! Your wedding figures sound awesome - do you do lots all year round or do you just get busy around wedding season?

MissG - glad to see af has taken her leave without too much fuss - I'm liking your calm before the storm music.....its good your preparing for the 2ww in style.

Shimmery - sorry about the funeral but glad that you could have a good cry....it feels much better afterwards I think. Squeaky and then broken bed....brilliant - that has cheered me up considerably!!

marathon and cuttlefish where have you run off to??

Life in IQ land is quite tense - since telling the in laws I feel like I've died and the only acceptable topic is mini IQ.....my sister is referring to it as "vessel syndrome" - you have to love this girl for getting to the heart of things. I can't fit into 90% of my work wear and so will have to bite the bullet and get maternity trousers for work....all seems too early but I almost puked yesterday where they were so tight! Additionally have had very little sleep worrying over the looting and burning in london as most of my family and friends are in the affected areas. Woke up at 5:30 and now have a tummy ache (think this is worry related).....but all this going on has stopped me metalling about mini IQ!!!!

DARN computer, sorry eve the bit about fimo figures was meant for baby !Darn PC!

baby I had commented that your fimo sounds awesome! The ones my friends had done bore an uncanny resemblance (I had written my post in word then cut and pasted it across but think your bit must have gone awol!)

Hi Peeps,

Hope everybody is doing okay! Well, I had my first acupuncture session tonight. I was quite nervous beforehand as I knew I would probably start crying. So, I talked about what had happened (with a few tears) and he was great. He said that yes, i?m old to be having children (39 on Sunday ?eek!) but he has helped women older than me.

I explained I was concerned that after the m/c my body was all out of whack and I felt that my period was starting too early. He looked at the top and bottom of my tongue and pronounced me healthy but that I was very tense (he held my wrists for a while). He said that he treats many women for similar problems and four of them had conceived twins in the past 8 months! Anyway, i?ve apparently got a ?cold womb? and ?cold feet?which means my circulation isn?t great so the blood flow around my body and through my uterus etc isn?t good enough? So with needles in my belly and down my legs and ankles (those ones did sting a bit when they went in) he put a warm lamp over my tummy and left me to ?relax?for 20 mins. It was very relaxing!!!

I?ve to go back in 10 days and he said to wear thin socks in bed because my feet are so cold and it will help with circulation. I?m not sure if it?s all going to work or not but, it was nice talking to somebody that genuinely wants to help (ok,well he?s being paid so guess that helps!) but I did feel better afterwards. I guess only time will tell and i?m not expecting to fall miraculously pregnant straight away (although would be nice!). He said he can help me through pregnancy (if I do get a bfp) too to prevent any miscarriage from occurring that could be prevented (IYSWIM ie/ not if it?s a dodgy egg or anything).

Oh, and he gave me some Chinese herbs that would ?help? but i?m unsure about taking those till i?v done a bit of research. My tummy is still nice and warm now though over 3hrs after the session.

Waffle over!! I?m still in the pre-ov phase this month so no full on metalling for me yet,more some flashback 80s tunes from Absolute Radio :)

shimmery that is hilarious about breaking the bed! Fingers crossed that was the deed that did the trick!! So sorry to hear you fell apart at your Uncle?s funeral,I can imagine what it must be like at least, as you say you could have a cry without raising suspicion,big hugs xx

eve fingers crossed AF goes back to normal. Mine have been different in that i?vehad spotting for 4 days beforehand which i didn?t use to have (just the one day usually) but otherwise have been similar in length and heaviness. Your fimo figures sound amazing :) I know the ones my friends had done were an uncanny resemblance!

manda did you get the list from the other thread? I would deffo make an appt with your GP ?do you have a sympathetic one at your practice? We have a confidential thing at work called ?lifeventure? where you can phone and talk to a counsellor. Do you have anything like that at all? I think it would help. Even talking to the acupuncturist tonight helped me in a little way (he said that everybody he knows with 2 or more children has had a miscarriage ? not sure why but it gave me some hope). What dose of AC are you taking? There were some other threads about coping with due dates on the miscarriage board that I had a look at recently ? might be worth a squizz

eve you are deffo getting the SWI in this month,fingers crossed one of those gazillion spermies has done the trick!

blue NY sounds amazing!!! I would love to go ? it?s my destination of choice for my 40th (next year ? gah)

We had a baking fundraiser at work today ? there was an obscene amount of home made baking and I scoffed some tablet, tiffin AND a marshmallow cup cake. Yes,I did feel sick! There is lots left for tomorrow .

missg I will save a cupcake and some chocolate and ginger slice for you :)

Hi to summer, IQ,marathon cuttle and everybody else i?ve missed!

Hello to all

Just tried to catch up (work has been a bugger so I've had no time until now). You have all been busy.

Summer - I'm so sorry, especially that your mum doesn't "get it".

Hi and welcome to shorty, boobeez and iamamummy*. Nice to make your acquaintance.

Late - I know what you mean about the first time being emotional. I felt very weird about it all, as it was becoming a big 'thing' in my head.

Now ladies, I have various stories for you. The first is that my uncle was buried today. Unfortunately, at the funeral I kept thinking about my baby (and that s/he would never get a funeral, etc) and fell apart somewhat. Fortunately, it was at a funeral so could be passed off as completely normal behaviour.

At the wake, I did get to hold my baby cousin (9 weeks) who was delightful. My dad was dropping hints (with all the subtlety of someone throwing anvils off a cliff) that he'd like to be a grandad. There were amusing moments though - some of my cousins hadn't seen me for a few years and were clearly trying to work out if she was mine or not.

Now for my best story. DH and I are once again in a SWI period (started on Friday, planning to continue to next Sunday). Our bed has a wood and metial frame and has been quite creaky for a while. So as not to wake the neighbours [conscientious emoticon], DH had carefully tightened all the screws the day before. We were rather energetically pursuing our goal on Sunday morning, and the creaking began again, getting louder and louder. Just as DH ahem reached maximum enjoyment (not sure how else to put that in polite company ) there was a great clanging sound and the bedhead and the foot of the bed separated from that part of the frame that holds up the mattress. Sadly, those parts also have the legs, leaving us, on the mattress, suspended for a second before the whole thing plummeted downwards. It wasn't so much post-coital afterglow as uncontrollable laughter...

We're now having to sleep on the floor until next weekend (when we'll have time to charge the drill, but bolts and do repairs). At least the floorboards don't squeak.

Eve that does help, thanks. I have no idea what will happen with me but I am wondering if it'll take a while to get to normal anyway. I am usually very regular, light and lasts about 3 days max. Hopefully that will continue!

Evening all

Summer thank you for that I will give it a try. I really should be more pleased for her. And I am they have been trying for 5 years and have had 3 lots of IVF. It is just that she is due 2 days before I would of been.

Blue - New york!!!! wow. Haven't been for years. I did summer camp in 1994 ( I am that old) and we were an hour out of NY and went every weekend. Loved it. Well done on getting your work all done.

Baby - figures sounds lovely although not sure my sausage fingers would be up to it. To answer your question I had 12 week scan at begining of june ERPC 31st June my period arrived 1st August. HTH. I guess we are all different though.

Manda sorry to hear you are finding things so difficult. I think you would benefit from talking to someone. I am sure the right support is out there for you. It is not good to bottle things up and with the due date looming it must be so hard. I hope and pray i have bfp before that day, but will have to face up to reality at some point.

Day 1 of the week done and out of the way 3 to go. Hope everyone else is ok.

Jusst want to add, am trying to lay off the wine this week as I seemed to be getting a bit too enthusiastic of late. My excuse was that I was making up for lost time, but that was only to myself. The truth is that really I just like drinking wine, but can get through far too much of it. Oooops!

Never done a kilt one, so it wasn't me! I am now doing it full time. I was previously a freelance journalist and work levels fluctuated, and I got into doing the Fimo more and more and love it. The hardest thing is getting the info out of people first, I have had descriptions such as 'its an ivory dress, and am wearing gold sparkly shoes' before and they appear shocked when I have to call them and ask A LOT more questions! I do a lot of them for anniversaries now too, they are great fun and also a good idea (there aren't a millions ideas out there for couples who've been together 40+ years.)
Will shut up now as sound like I am advertising (I'm not!)

I have not had AF yet, and can't say I am looking forward to it either after reading everyone else's experiences. How long did it take everyone after they MC'd? I have been three weeks now, so guess I still have a while to wait.

To answer your question BlueCrane, yes DH would be open to some non TTCing activity but we don't currently use anything contraception wise anyway he, er, pulls out (I would never talk like this in RL!) so I can't lure him into anything unawares.

manda so sorry to hear about AF's rudeness and effects on hormones, emotions and general well-being! I think one of the super tough things about MC is that it never really goes away or fades fully in the memory and at the moment there are still so many reminders for you...body still not recovered and approaching due date being two of the list! Have you anyone you can chat to in RL other than DP? I burst into tears on a friend yesterday but just talking out loud about everything buzzing in my head and getting me down did really help...typing on here is great but sometimes an actual person listening and giving you a hug is more what's needed IYSWIM though I hasten to add we're all here for you and offer large quantities of virtual hugs and of course the specially designed padded full metal room!!

missg glad to hear AF made a more reasonable 'chilled' visit for you! Hope your weekend was ok given the time of year.

Now about to tidy up the mess I made finishing my assignments off last night - the dining room table and floor all around it is covered in papers!! Might also have another look at flights, hotel etc for potential NY trip...if only DH could liaise with the groom-to-be to find out where exactly the wedding is going to be then I'd have a bit better idea where to start...kinda think New York City is quite large and don't want to end up the other side of town!!

Hi ladies,

Haven't really caught up properly, sorry . Not been in much and my phone is useless for trying to post on MN.

Blue sorry to read about your unwanted mail and about your waning PMA. I think we'd need to be machines to keep up the PMA 100% of the time. But, when one of us goes down, another will always come up and PMA on our behalf until we're back in the zone. I like that about this thread

AF was heavy for 2 days, after 3/4 days very light spotting, then seemed to pretty much just stop. Nothing since. So not been much call for heavy metal on my part recently, been listening to a wee bit of Diana Ross and Gladys Knight in the car recently. It's the 'Golden Ladies of Soul' calm before the 'metal til your head falls off 2ww' storm

I need cake.

Yay for NY blue - I just love that city, been three times now and harbour unrealistic fantasies of owning a massive apartment that overlooks central park some day So long as the wedding doesn't clash with thanksgiving it should be pretty reasonable to go/get a hotel.

baby I now want a tiiiiiny rendering of myself that has been in the oven! Is that your full time calling, or a little something on the side, as it were?

As for me, af is being a true witch (I just had a little laugh to myself thinking 'yeah, a BUTCH one!' ), flooding and pain. Hurrumph. And, I'm beginning to think I need to speak to my gp about my, uh, state of mind. I'm spending too much of my time either in a rage or crying. Last night I was reading a little about post traumatic stress and I seem to be fitting most of it right now. At the very least I think I need some counselling, but on the other hand I don't want to admit, formally, that I'm falling apart so badly and need help. So half of my mind is telling me I'm fine and just need some rest/some time on MY OWN (I very rarely get any time away from DS2 and he's still very full on breastfeeding at 17 months - he won't take a sippy, just tips it up and shakes the drink out ).

But, I'm taking B-100 complex and agnus castus this month in the hope that at least physically I can get back on a more even keel. As I said to DP my body still being so messed up is just a horrible reminder of WHY it's messed up. I would have been 35 weeks today and the approaching due date is constantly in my mind, too.

Ugh, sorry to be such a downer.

Ooh Fimo...haven't had a go with that for years!! Seem to remember we made the spaceships out of the film 'batteries not included' not sure where they are now though...Mum probably has them stashed somewhere!! That sounds like a fun thing to do baby though quite a responsibility to get the details right for a wedding! Glad you've been able to get a bit of progress with your DH...think it's probably a bit of a man thing to want to make sure everything's in order first...though do you think he'd be open to a bit of non-pressured TTC where you aren't careful not to conceive but aren't trying really hard? except that you can still make sure you DTD at the right time and just keep quiet that you know it's the right time IYSWIM...sorry, shoudlnt' be encouraging any form of deception

baby my friends had that on their wedding cake recently! Wonder if it was you! They looked AMAZING! :) The groom would have been in a kilt! :)

ps congrats on finishing your coursework! Hope the wine was lovely!

I'll have a piece, please! Thanks! Lurve shortbread!

As you asked, DH did actually say, well I did ask him, if he wanted to and he said yes but wants to sort out our cash / house situation a bit first. Progess of a kind, I guess but he still seems to think that once we decided to TTC we'd have a baby in the house 40 weeks later (which is still a while, even if we were lucky first time!)

Am knee deep in Fimo today (I make wedding figurines to go on, or next to, cakes which are mini replicas of the bride and groom.) I am off to a wedding the weekend after next and did discuss with the bride to be about making their figurine as a pressie. I since had asked for the required details and had no response whatsoever which I am quite irritated with really (esp as she is in FB all the time, which is where I sent my original messages to.) However, not sure what else to take as a pressie due to our current financial situation so managed to track down her sister who then sent VERY scant details of dress. The groom is a fireman so am doing to do him in uniform - it's been very fiddly with all the flourescent strips!

Right, better get him out the oven. Back later on and off.

Hi all!

Happy Monday all...rather quiet on here today! CD16 here still no signs of Ov but hoping we can get some SWI in this week just in case. Had an invitation to a wedding in New York in November come through yesterday! Just trying to see if we can afford to go and afford all the shopping I'll want to do when we're there! so think that might have to be my early 5th wedding anniversary treat ( very early since 5th anniversary not til Sept 12!!)

On another note my assignment is finished!! Course all done now?just need to wait for the marks and my certificate so I can collapse with a large tonight to celebrate! As you can tell I?m feeling a bit better today?think I was overtired at the weekend and stressed out with my studies but having finished my assignment and the possibility of a trip to NY I?m feeling a bit more

boobeez how?s the testing/full on metalling going?

missg and manda hope AF is treating you well and not too heavy and painful or overstaying her welcome!

marathon huge again at your scan on Saturday!! IQ how are you doing?how long til your next scan? And cuttle hope all ok?

pie my DH keeps saying we need to just relax but it?s v v hard! Hope the acupuncture goes well tonight!

baby sorry to hear about the situ with your cousin?my SIL is due 6 weeks before I would?ve been so similar although they live a bit further away. How is your DH doing re. TTC? Still wobbling or just v focused on the DIY?

summer glad you seem to have had a relaxed weekend? hopefully some SWI can commence again soon for you!

eve hope your first day back at work is ok?there?ll be lots of us to metal together when you get to the 2ww?enjoy all the planned SWI!!

eve WRT the FB updates - all you do is go to the end of her updates on your home screen (sort of hover over the right hand side) and you will see a cross - click on that and it will ask you if you want to block this person - she will never know - and to get her back you go to the bottom of the screen and i think it says 'edit options' and you will get a list of people you have blocked - you just reinstate her then.

blue how for you to keep getting those bloody babycentre updates it should really be so easy to unsubscribe - it must be so common for this to happen (sadly)

will do a full catch up tomorrow when-i-am-at-work but have a good night ladies and huge waves to everyone

afternoon all

Happy sunday to one and all. Back to work tomorrow :-( and I have to work 4 yes 4 days this week!!!

Marathon - so pleased the scan went well. Keep everything crossed for you for the next 30 weeks.

Whatso - guessing I have missed you but hope you have agreat holiday relax and enjoy yourself. Sorry to hear about the parcel. Does it ever stop being so upsetting - have aunt due 2 days before me and have had to keep looking at facebook updates and pictures of bumps - anyone know how to block it without upsetting her?

Summer glad you made the most of your day off. We got lots done last week. Week off 15th but planning to relax abit that week for a change.

Pie - good to hear your GP was helpful.

Blue - hope you are ok. These things are sent to try us. Hang on in there.

Manda - sorry to hear Af arrived this month will be our month :-)

Anyone heard anything from Cuttle?? Hope she is ok.

Had quiet weekend for a change - next free weekend is in october!!!! with one thing and another. Have check ovulation chart - although I don't know how long my LP is i have guessed and we have to dtd Thurs,fri,sat,sun,mon. DP can't wait although told him to focus on quality not qunatity.

We shall see what happens in 3 weeks time. Feel sick at the thought of it all really. Don't know if I can handle the dissappointment.

boobeez IC's keep me sane means I can POAS whenever I feel like it even the day after I thought AF had finished I also got my first hint of a bfp on my IC's last time!

Thanks manda and blue and good advice about getting some IC tests. May need to order some. In the mean time, think I will join you in the padded room for some heavy moshing. I can feel an air guitar solo coming on....!

hey all...thanks so much for your kind words yesterday, I managed to have a good chat with DH and just trying to take one day at a time. We managed SWI this morning and are now CD15 but will just have to wait and see what's happenning but will keep up the SWI when we can and am going to ignore the fact that I may be entering the 2ww and just keep it going as I have no idea how long my cycle will be (I used to Ov on CD25!!)

manada so sorry to hear AF has made a such a rude and painful appearance! Hands over nicely filled hot water bottle and large bar of galaxy chocolate!

whatso you probably won't see this in time now but I also got the very same parcel from Avent yesterday and as much as I fill in unsubscribe on one of the babycentre places they keep emailing me each week telling me how many weeks I am!! These places should have an easy unsubscribe section as I really don't want a weekly reminder of where I'm not up to!! Have a fantastic time in Ibiza!!

boobez sorry to hear about bfn but it's not over 'til the aunt arrives. For a number of us it took over 6 weekd for AF to come for the first time after MC so hang in there!! There's plenty of space in the padded heavy metalling room...come join us!

Waves to everyone else...apologies for lack of individual replies...will be back later but must get my assignments finished - need to post them tomorrow!!

pie This post from random thread, particularly, made me guaffaw:

"I did this a few times but the cream wouldn't remove every single scrap of hair, so I ended up with what looked like an old lady who had been through a nuclear winter."