Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

Morning all?feeling surprisingly calm this morning, a bit like a pressure cooker that has been depressurised?i.e. crazy PMT hormones subsiding now that AF has arrived so actually making me feel a bit better (despite the heavy bleeding and cramps ? sorry TMI) ?weather is horrible though?surely it?s not still August?!? Think a round of hot needed!

pie hang in there?I was POASing most days but using ICs so wasn?t quite so infuriating getting a bfn and knowing how much £ I?d peed on to be disappointed but definitely sending PMA thoughts for you and your AF-free holiday!!

IQ hello!! Glad all is ok with you though am sure it?s v tough with DH away and sorry to hear you?ve been so sick! Hope things sort themselves out at work?when I got back after MC I found out that all of the directors had been told about it in one of their weekly meetings wasn?t quite prepared for that though I guess they did need to know why I was suddenly off for 3 weeks?How many weeks are you now? Have you been v sick at work as well? Just wondering whether you can hold off for another couple of weeks until you?re closer to 12 weeks before you have to tell all?! What a pain to have to deal with that as well?

shimmery sorry you?re still having to wait?how many DPO are you now? Loving the tempting AF tactics sending lots of PMA for you for good news v soon!!!

Damn, I forgot - Blue sorry she got you this time.

God, I love fish finger sarnies (regresses to childhood - or possibly jsut last week).

IQ your boss sounds lovely . She really should learn to keep her mouth shut. I'd only tell her if you feel strong enough for everyone to know, otherwise I'd probably keep schtum for now. It won't kill her to wait a few weeks.

Manda - sending you positive vibes to support you on your due date. I like Marathon's idea about the balloon, or maybe a chinese lantern.

Marathon please feel free to be as ostrich-like as you want. Entirely understandable.

AF still not here. This is now officially doing my head in, as it is starting to make me hopeful that the BFN was just a bit too early and I'm starting to think that maybe my boobs do hurt a bit (though admittedly not like when I was PG) - but hell it could just be cramp? I don't want to be hopeful, I really don't. It's not good for me and I will just end up disappointed.

As purchasing more sticks to test with at the weekend failed to bring on AF, I am tempting her even more today by wearing white undies. Even DH has pointed out that I may not be thinking rationally, and has explained that the first rule of sod's law is that you cannot direct it.

In other news - DH is going to be on Radio 4 at some point soon. The recording was done yesterday .

Hello all - sorry for not keeping up life in casa iq has been mental....DH has now gone so currently trying to get used to being without him and not having a lot of contact....luckily my sister is here to keep me company so not doing too badly at the moment!! Things here seem to be progressing well but was told by my temporary boss that I should tell my actual line manager about biscuit. The problem I have is that the woman is a blabber mouth and she has no problem discussing anyones private business with the rest of the site....I work for a large organisation which is obviously a hot bed of gossip. The reason I have been avoiding it is that when a good friend had an mmc last year she blabbed "in a well meaning sort of way"........ not really sure telling people about her very private problems and making it out like your concerned is really well meaning!!! I can't tell my temporary boss this because they are really good mates.........so I'm currently between a rock and a place which is going to out me publicly to a couple hundred people!!!!

Anyway I have my first mid wife appointment this afternoon (check off another milestone for me and biscuit) and a lovely weekend with my mates to look forward to although I have to brave the PIL before that so trying to think when the latest I could turn up would be before going off to see my girls!!!

Ok there is so much to catch up on I can't possibly go back the 4 (yes 4) pages that have been created while I was awol so I apologise now but I'm working on pg.22 as my starting point so sorry if I don't name check you in the following....I do still love you all!!!

Shimmery - I say get the coat....yes it will be sad but it will be nice to see someone happy with that item and additionally you can wonder what type of styles will be available when you have a little one (see I say when, not if as I am pma'ing on your behalf)!!!

Blue - sorry the witch got you but glad the future dates work out well for SWI and getting your mum out to pamper you post baby producing....shall keep everything crossed that next month is your month. Xxx

Manda - fully agree on loving rhubarb it reminds me of sunday lunch at my nan's she used to grow it and on a saturday morning I would go to the veg patch with my gramps and 'harvest' the rhubarb for the pudding the next day....everytime I eat it I think of her now which is lovely!!! Hope ds2 hasn't got the puke lergy....sick is something I'm fine with which is great considering my recent "attached to the toilet bowl" antics...sick face. Also sending you hugs for your upcoming due date!!!

Baby - glad your DH has come around....my advise is to go for the full court press and seduce his pants off!!! My DH was reluctant at first but when he realised he could "anything he wanted" if he was willing to "shag on demand"....he seems to come around to my way of thinking....!!!!

Marathon - I shall be keeping my fingers crossed for you and see nothing wrong with your ostrich tactics....self preservation in this situations is sometimes all we have to cling on to. I won't bother you again for updates until the 7th where I shall be like a cat on a hot tin roof from anticipation and my legs and fingers will be so tightly crossed for you that I will have cramp. Xx

Missg - sorry to hear work is still manic....hope your otherwise doing well though.

Whatso - escaping the office sounds like a good plan....did you get everything that you wanted to finished? Fish finger sarnie...mmmmmm and super well done on your weight loss!!

Pie - poas adddict...now that would be quite a fun 'anonymous' group...."Hello my name is piemistress and I'm addicted to POAS - it's been two hours since I last POAS. I wake up and it's the first thing I think about - its been a problem for a while now and I'm constantly running out of plastic cups to collect my urine in".....ahhhh the wonderful world of TTC!!!

So I think I've missed summer, poppy, eve....thinks that's all of you but god knows as its gone 3 in the morning and really I should be asleep and not updating MN but the poor little boy next door is teething so has been up crying for about 45mins....this I will hopefully have to look forward to!!

Right must get back to sleep otherwise I will be useless at work today!!!xxx

wow whats that's very impressive! Go Gal!

manda sorry to hear due date is coming up :( :( Mine is 2 days before Christmas and if no bfp by then I am going to need some serious PMA to get me through the festive season (although DS's birthday is xmas day so I be focusing on that).

blue hope the hottie does the trick, sorry to hear about AF

8dpo, did a test why oh why oh! of course bfn I am a POAS ADDICT SAVE ME!! We are on hols on Sat for a week so Af had better STAY AWAY !!!!

Yeah whatso well done with the weight loss..that's impressive! Another part of my PMA is to try and lose a bit more weight this cycle as seem to have rather moved towards the cake in the last couple of weeks...so...will try and provide more healthy treats for the thread too!

manda sorry to hear your due date is approaching...haven't really thought too much about how that will feel yet but think it will be tough!

missg and whatso hope your work calms down a bit...

Currently curled up on the sofa with my hot water bottle and a take care all...

Blue as Marathon said - gutted for you.

Currently on my work laptop at home trying to draft a couple of documents - got sick of the sight of the four walls of the office and couldn't stick camping out there for the evening. Hopefully I will finish before bedtime!

DH has made me a very nice fish finger sarnie and salad so I am fuelled up . Lost 6 1/2 lbs at my first Weight Watchers weigh in today so very pleased about that.

Big wave to all!

Just quick one (as work manic just now) haven't had a chance to read far back.
Blue That really sucks. Sending PMA your way and sticking chin up and my 32Ds out as far as they can possibly go in your honour! Next month will be your month
And Manda maybe marking it in some way would be nice. I've heard that people plant plants or trees (although not best time of year I suppose) and the helium balloon idea is a good one too. Oooohh chinese lantern?
I would have been due last year (ectopic) on the same day one of my best frineds was in for her ERCP, so we had resolved to get blazing drunk every 19th November! But, of course, I am planning to be pg by then, so have booked a pamper day this year instead.

Waves to everyone else and expresses huge disappointment about missing the crumble. I LOVE crumble. Who's making some next??
Sorry for not namechecking, but plan to be back later tonight to catch up good and proper.

Right

Oh, feck, xposted, blue

I'm so sorry. I really don't have any 'chipper' comments for you, but you're not alone.

x

Pants, pants, pants indeed Blue. So sorry its not worked this month, regardless of how lucky it would have been it's still a shitty dissapointment when you know for sure. Huggs xx

House of activity here so can't stop - just didn't want to read and run. Back when I can (prob tomorrow)

Dagnamit! No crumble left? I love rhubarb crumble. And rhubarb and custard sweeties. And rachel's organic rhubarb yoghurt...

I'm seeing a pattern, if you rhubarb what I mean?

Well, bbq was simply hard work, running after ds2 (and there seemed to be danger everywhere - the actual bbq, the pond, the other kids (all older by at least two years - one of whom ds2 was enthusiatically kissing with an open mouth but turns out they had been puking before even arriving at the bbq and puked twice whilst there So I've been far too anxious these last few days looking for signs of DS2 developing a bug. I have a 'thing' about sick. It just makes me super, super anxious, I don't cope too well. Not sure if its actual phobia territory though)).

marathon You're right about how shockingly naive many women are about their bodies but moreso, how it literally takes a doctor to tell them basic stuff... I can't imagine, in this day of t'internet, women who don't research. I dunno. I can see how it could be pretty easy to exploit such women and make a pretty penny out of it; I'm looking at you, Zita West I'll hold your hand countin down to the scan - I need to focus on positive stuff (which your scan WILL be!) as my due date is rapidly approaching (19 days, not that I'm counting )

Still no sign of O here, at CD18. And, therein lies the importance of researching and taking control, as it were, because the average person might assume they are 4dpo... I'd be testing thinking of metalling instead of being calm in the knowledge that O hasn't even happened.

Gah, I've forgotten who was asking about the beautiful monsoon cardi. I would definitely gift it, and I don't see anything odd about it. There's nothing wrong with wanting another baby to have something lovely - yes it will be bittersweet, but still... I know it's a reminder of what you haven't got but it can also be a reminder of what is in your future.

baby Yay for DH coming around! I know what you mean about the conversations seeming awkward; ours have been somewhat stilted too (although the more of them we have, the easier they become!). I suppose it's just human nature that things seem 'stiff' when addressing something that is often swept under the carpet.

blue you have permission to do any type of metalling you see fit - things are sounding very confusing for you still! Fingers crossed that pain was implantation.

Um... um...

Lots of waves and PMA to everyone else - I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank as to what else I wanted to say, plus DS2 is clambering all over for me which doesn't make for a pleasant typing experience. Back anon.

pretty sure it's AF as it seems to be getting heavier...as much as I will it to be implantation I know deep down that it's not...so CD32 AF arrives...early enough not to send me totally loopy with looong cycle but late enough to mess up my plans that I might Ov whilst we're on hols in a couple of weeks which is very irritating! Just feeling really fed up, I knew we'd have been incredibly lucky this month if it'd happened as we've only managed weekend SWI due to DH's new shifts but other than holiday time that's just how life is going to be now that his shift pattern has changed so am wondering quite how we're going to managed it at all...sorry...me..me..me post, not sure I'd realised how much I'd got my hopes up that it just might have happened and now just really fed up about it all...and to top it all if we conceive this next cycle then due date heads into June and ever closer to the Olympics when the cost of flights will shoot through the roof for my Mum to fly in from the other side of the equator...and now the stomach cramps are kicking in too...pants...pants...pants...

Sorry all...will be back in a better frame of mind later on I'm sure...

shimmery if the coat is the type of thing you'd have bought for her pre-MC then I would say go for it!

just had some spotting...probably AF giving me an early warning she's about to arrive...

I know her fairly well - she's one of the people I am closest to at work (hence she knows about the MC) and she's very open with me (which is relevant due the the politiking here - we're "on the same side" so to speak).

shimmery x-post...there's a bit of crumble left in the corner of the bowl if you're quick!! You can hang out with me in the 'trying not to test for the next couple of days but will if she doesn't appear' section of the metalling room! for you seeing the coat...mine would've been due in December and have been trying not to think about the things I would've been buying about now! How well do you know your colleague?

Morning all...glad you enjoyed the crumble! Nothing much to report this morning...but that's not a bad thing as it means there's been no spotting, bleeding or start of AF and no more crazy cramps (other than the odd stitch like pain in my lower left side near where the sharp pain was yesterday!) No test result either as I didn't bother POAS this morning...going to try and hold off until Friday if I can, which will be CD34 and possibly 36hours post implantation if that's what was happening yesterday...trying soooo hard to stay calm and not get over excited and am so so aware that AF could still sneak in a visit at any time! Suspect I may be visiting the loo an extraordinarily large number of times today just to check though

summer I was chatting to my DM yesterday and she kept rightly telling me not to get my hopes up and she seemed so that people might actually know when they'd ov'd or when implantation happened, she seemed v sceptical about the whole thing and I'm certain that if I got a bfp and then had the same happen as you I would also get the same response from her that you had which does make me but seems to be a generational thing as they had to wait so long to find out and seemed so clueless as to what was going on in comparison to what we know now! That doesn't excuse it at all though as they need to understand that once you do know then the bonding starts immediately...grrr...so frustrating for you!

pie crumble for breakfast...a lady after my own heart!! I often look at my little sis doing her makeup and wonder how she learned to do it so well/professionally! Sending PMA your way for NO spotting today!!

I woke up wondering how IQ is as not heard form her for a while...are you out there????

Waves to marathon, missg, manda, whatso, shimmery, eve, baby, cuttle, poppy hope I've not missed anyone

Hi all. Baby I heard somewhere that washing machines are more likely to cause house fires than other, possibly more obvious appliances (such as ovens). Yet I still feel happier going out leaving the washing machine on than leaving the oven on.

Fingers crossed for you Blue. I am still in a weird no-mans land of no AF. Very odd given my usual regularity and the fact that my first two cycles post MC followed the normal pattern. If it lasts until the weekend i will be testing again. I even bought the tests today to try and trick AF into showing...

Went into Monsoon this morning and saw the most gorgeous little coat for a baby. Felt very :( as I would have had a January baby and so could have used it. Am considering buying it as a present for my colleague who is due just before Christmas, but not sure if that would be weird (especially as she knows about the MC). Your thoughts on that would be welcome.

Waves to everyone else :)

Ooooo

Hope everybody is well! My aim is to get through today without spotting (8dpo) then I will be one day better off than last month!

Had a make up trial last night (am a bridesmaid next month) and it looked ace! How can I be nearly 40 and not know how to put make up on properly!

baby my 3 cycles post m/c have definitely been WTF! Ov on CD16, CD12 and CD19 so far! With spotting starting at 8dpo (hence hoping acupuncture will help!)

poppy how are you today? My DS is a month older than yours at nearly 19 months.

blue go the implantation, go the implantation! fingers crossed!!!

eve have you managed to resist from testing yet! Aren't those tests like magnets though! I'm rubbish at not testing early!

marathon good news on jeans not fitting!! Is it your 12 week scan on the 7th Sept?

Hope all is well with IQ I haven't seen her post for a while.

Waves to summer, missg, manda, whats, IQ, shimmery

What's that? Some crumble left, just for little old me? Thanks Blue!!

oh no have i missed the crumble? oh no there is a little bit left, thanks blue i will have custard ta we will all get waaay overweight on this thread with your treats!

my mother is driving me mad - i think she feels guilty about being fecking-useless a tad unsympathetic 3 weeks ago, she is ringing me constantly checking i am ok.... bit late now mother!

cheers poppy i will have a when i have finished my crumble

waves to everyone, nothing much to report tonight other than to check in and grab a bit of crumble!

sleep well

Poppy I have got frustrated with Embarassing Bodies too (or is it the Fat vs Skinny, might be that now I think of it) referring to how bad diets and so on will lead to 'diabetes.' It is a pet hate of mine, as there are two types and only ONE type is associated with bad diet / lifestyle choices. MIne is because my pancreas doesn't work so I have to inject insulin instead but nine times out of ten people assume it's a self inflicted illness and I 'have it really badly' as I am on insulin rather than diet or tablets.
Grrrr
Sorry, hijacked a bit there but it is my pet hate!

So, ladies, are cycles quite all over for some time post MC? If so, what was the spotting / nearly bleeding / horrid cramping about last week then? Its almost stopped now so not sure if that counts as a period or not. Am clueless!

Poppy - cheers! This is out of medical neccessity due to the in-laws of course.

poppy I'll have a to go with the crumble thanks glad you have had a nice day with your DS!

baby I have heard that washing machines catching fire is strangely common (or maybe used to be when we washed at higher temperatures than 20 or 30 degrees!) but your MIL does sound like she needs to chill a bit! How's the DIY week going?