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Freak Out Room For Those Newly Updiffed After M/C Part VIII

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dooscooby · 20/07/2011 12:53

Just found out you are pregnant after a previous miscarriage and too nervous to move over the to pregnancy boards? Freaking out about spotting, cramping, symptoms (or lack there of) and nervously awaiting your first scan? Here is a lovely place for lot's of support, hand holding and problem sharing.

Courtesy of owlbooty here are the Ten Commandments of the Freak Out Room.

  1. Thou shalt check thy knickers to the point of insanity until the baby actually arrives.
  2. Thou shalt also check the loo roll post-wipeage (sorry, gross, I know)
  3. Thou shalt bore thy physician and midwife to tears with the mentalling.
  4. And thy husband/boyfriend/family/neighbour's cat.
  5. Thou shalt obsess over the absence of symptoms.
  6. And the presence of symptoms.
  7. And the fluctuation of symptoms.
  8. Thou shalt pee on a vast number of sticks and keep ClearBlue and First Response in business.
  9. The day before any scan extreme mentalling is permitted without recourse to the Haddock.
10. Self-diagnosis with Dr Google is Forbidden.

The Haddock will be applied liberally to all transgressors.

See here for the previous thread

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stitchinline · 25/07/2011 11:07

Shellshock so pleased the scan went well yesterday :o, but sorry it has been so stressful for you. I think it?s such an emotional time anyway and then add our past experiences and it can all just seem too much.

I know exactly how you feel and I think you have kind of helped me with my decision not to scan early, there is no way I will get comfort from an early scan and so I really am going to try to hold out. Off to see the GP tonight so will see what they have to say about it all. I feel OK and have some symptoms so staying in my little bubble until I have to get out!

shellshock7 · 25/07/2011 10:21

Hi everyone - congrats on the BFPs and good luck for the scans today Smile

Had my scan yesterday and all was good Smile my dates have gone back by 5 days, strong heartbeat and emotional times all round!

Has anyone else ever felt like this though: I seriously wished we hadn't booked it yesterday morning. Up until last week we had been feeling ok, just getting on with it and trying not to stress too much....but on the lead up to the scan, had horrendous nightmares everynight and was stressing all day, the morning on the scan was one of the most stressful experiences for me and DH Sad

I know we have had good news, and its lovely looking at the pics but we don't feel any relief as it seems so early, the 12 week scan is really the one that (hopefullly) will put our minds at ease. I think we have realised why they wait until then!

Basically, we just went from saying we would defo get a scan once we had passed the time the baby stop developing with the MMC to saying that we wish we had just waited as we were doing fine, and really dont feel anymore secure in this pregnancy than if we hadn't had the scan, and have been through a very stressful few days?

We are obviously very happy to see the heatbeat and both cried, it was that emotional so I don't want to sound like a very strange person! But just wondering if anyone else felt like this? xxx

stitchinline · 25/07/2011 08:53

lurking for news from shellshock

fx you have a great scan day today freelance, hope you had a lovely birthday yesterday. You sure did have teh weather for it.

welcome to the newbies

martha sorry to hear you are feeling down today

marthamay · 25/07/2011 08:45

Good morning everyone and thanks for welcoming me.
I feel like it's all over this morning. Last week on Wednesday my DH went away to Switzerland for a conference and since he left my DS(15months) has been really ill with a cold and has had three teeth come through - so absolutely no sleep for me. I've been getting about two hours each night and then no way of making it up during the day so feel very, very under the weather and of course now I've got the cold too. So, I just can't believe that in this state, my body is going to continue this pregnancy. My DH was supposed to be getting back on Wednesday but he has changed his flight to come back tonight and give me a hand with DS - I feel a bit guilty about it but at the same time, I don't know at all how I could cope with the 6th night in a row of no sleep. Still, I feel like it's too late. I have had some very evil feeling cramping this morning which is making me feel very distressed, all I want to do is cry but I have no one who knows I'm pregnant and I don't know what I'd say.
Sorry....bit of a downer postBlush.

freelancegirl · 25/07/2011 08:25

Milky, great article about the importance of Vit D. I found quite a few myself a few months ago and definitely think it is good for us all to take. I was told mine was low years ago because of my thyroid problems and never took any supplements. I?ve been on an extra 25 (plus whatever is in Pregnacare) now for a couple of months so hopefully that will mean am re-stocked.

Thanks too for the info on growth in the urine. That had me googling like mad! Both times I have been pregnant this year (now and mc in March) I have had tingling in my urethra similar but last time they checked for a UTI and there was nothing. Does anyone else get that? I think I should go for another test. I wonder why the nurse asked you if you had miscarried? I am freaking out again now? And yes the Norway and Amy Winehouse things have made me feel a bit vulnerable too. It just brings home how fragile life is and how important friends and family are.

Hi Marathon, I am feeling the same! Very unsymptomy. I have a scan this afternoon though (6.0) so might find out more. I have been scared but I realise there?s nothing I can do so I just have to get on with it.

Well done for coming over Georgethecat! Do hang around. I am new here to. It freaks me out to even be posting here, half of me thinks I won?t be back later after the scan, but it?s also so good to be able to have people who can relate to what you?re going through.

Waves to everyone else! Speak from the other side of the scan...

Twittwooo · 24/07/2011 19:53

Hi georgethecat,

I'm new here too and will be lurking with you! Sorry to hear about your loss, but congratulations too.

I think I'm about 5 weeks after a mc last month and I'm worrying all the time, but trying not to let it take over, so I know what you mean when you say it's scarier second time around! xx

georgethecat · 24/07/2011 19:12

Hi ladies, new here 8wks pg after mc in april, bit scarier second time around isnt it? hope you don't mind but I'm going to lurk here for a bit xxx

MarathonMama · 24/07/2011 15:10

Martha my story is the same as yours and also happened in May. I just knew all was not well when all the symptoms disappeared. Even so, you still have hope so when they tell you at the scan that it's all gone wrong, it's devastating. My bean died around 7 weeks. I'd had an early scan at about 7 weeks and seen the heartbeat so was feeling quite confident and had told a few people. Bean must have died soon after that.

Now I'm 6+2 and feeling very unsymptomy. Hoping to have an early scan at 8-9 weeks but not sure how reassuring that'll be given last time.

Anyway, I'm freaking out with you so wanted to say hello Smile

milkyways · 24/07/2011 14:24

LAF I'm not taking supplements for D6 or D12. D3 is the most important form of Vit D as it promotes absorption of calcium in the body amongst other things. I found this paper really reassuring when I was diagnosed with Vit D deficiency.

Also, in regards to the smelly wee - completely normal. I found mine was particularly strong in the first 9 weeks until my hcg peaked, and now it is more or less the same. Another thing you may want to keep an eye on (although I am sure St Mary's will test for it anyway) is growth in the urine. With my last mc, I had alot of growth in every wee sample. It may have been nothing, but I distinctly remember a nurse calling me a week before I mc'd asking me if I had miscarried because I had growth in my urine that they could give me ab's for. Noticably with this pregnancy I have had no growth and it is clear.

martha welcome to the thread and sorry for your loss. I think although obviously all mc's are cruel, mmc's have a whole new level of cruelness. I hated how my own body deceived me and made me think everything was okay for 11 weeks. Hopefully everything will be fine for you this time!

I don't know why, but the killings in Norway and then Amy Winehouse's death have really affected me. I feel really anxious and afraid even though I have no link with the events at all. Maybe it is just hormones. This morning I woke up and the first thing I did was listen to baby's hb to make myself feel better and it's helped slightly, but still feeling anxious.

Good luck with the scan tomorrow freelance!

freelancegirl · 24/07/2011 12:02

Hi Martha sorry about your miscarriage. Sounds like the same kind of dates I had too - found out at 12 weeks that it had died at 7ish. My symptoms had eased but I was thinking that was because I had got towards placenta time. But then I started to cramp and had an awfully long and painful drawn out natural mc.

Anyway, here we are again and yes it is indeed terrifying. I am having no symptoms really so that is even worse. Just makes you think the worse! And yes, not bleeding is not reassuring when you think of missed miscarriages. But all we can do is hope for the best! Nice to have people who an empathise.

LAF I think I had the wee thing last time. I am not sure this time as I am taking progesterone suppositories and they make everything a bit white and waxy (nice!). I remember having pungent discharge last time too. Well done for not taking the CB test. I feel so tempted to buy one and see whether I have gone up to 2-3 weeks. Scan tomorrow anyway. Terrified!

In the meantime though, do come and say hello! We are actually going to be in Brunswick Square gardens with a gazebo, table of food, some balloons and some bunting :) I am swarthy looking (brown, long dark hair) in a purple maxi dress. I will be the one pretending to drink. Come and say hello, it would be hilarious! Make up something like we used to work together years ago, just as I am not out of the mn/pregnancy closet with any of my friends. We could whisper our real names to each other when we hug and say 'Wow, haven't seen you for ages!' Grin

marthamay · 24/07/2011 11:37

Hello everyone, would you mind if I joined in? I've been lurking for a week or so but would really appreciate having somewhere to turn in those weird, panicky, scary moments that make no sense to anyone else!

I'm now 5+3 pregnant, two cycles after a mmc - bean had died around 7-8 weeks but only found out at 12 weeks, that was back in May.

I'm terrified about my symptoms stopping because that's what happened last time, around the 9 week mark, and I just knew, even though people kept on telling me not to be silly. It was not a real surprise at the scan, just sad sad sad.

I'm poas too many times a week Blush and knicker checking crazily. To be honest, not bleeding doesn't really make me feel reassured.

It's really hard isn't it - not knowing how much emotional energy to invest in this pregnancy, hardly letting yourself even feel happy about it but at the same time really, really wanting to but being afraid of getting too attached.
Sorry, I'm rambling...!

Good luck to those of you having scans tomorrow, fingers crossed for you.

LAF77 · 24/07/2011 11:16

Happy birthday freelance as it happens, we are heading to Brighton on the train today, so if I see a birthday party I might wander over and be a weirdo. I'm wearing a red flowery seventies dress. Good luck for your scan tomorrow. I would be so happy if I don't bleed before my scan in 10 days time.

milky I noticed that pregnacare has 300% bit D3. Are you taking any supplements for D6 and D12? They aren't listed as part of the ingredients on the package.

This is a bit embarrassing, but does anyone else have strong smelling wee? I've noticed mine is really pungent. Dr. Google says that this can happen in pg. HCG can be the cause of this. Im going to ask the GP about it too at my appt.

I've been good and not taken the clear blue again to see if it tells me my HCG has gone up. I realise it won't change the outcome and I have to accept each day as it comes. I need to phone St. Mary's tomorrow as no one got back to me last week about the promise trial. Maybe it's too late for me to be on it now. Perhaps you have to start from day 1 of your pg.

freelancegirl · 24/07/2011 10:03

Oh gosh Lili that must have been awful when you got to the counter and realised!!! My local corner shop people have a tendency to be over familiar, meaning I never go in there for anything personal. If you go and buy bread and jam for example they say 'oh have a lovely breakfast' so I am not going to go in there for, say, tampons :) But that is a real pain for you. Hope they have some sort of confidentiality conversation when they start work there. Of course you could have said you were 'trying' as they do recommend you take them prior to conception too but I wouldn't have been able to think that quickly in that position either.

That sounds like an awful dream too. I wish we all didn't have to go through all of this.

Round ligament pain - thanks Milky that's what I was looking for. I spent all Friday googling it and then by Saturday I had totally forgotten what it was called! I guess maybe I DO have at least one pregnancy symptom in the brain at least. Actually I did wake up feeling a tad nauseous in the middle of the night and I have never felt so grateful to feel a bit queasy. Feeling fine now though.

Welcome to the thread Livinginthemoment. I think I can safely say we all share the same worries. I wonder what I am even doing on this thread being that I might not even be pregnant when it comes to the next scan. We just have to take it day by day. Today we are pregnant.

And today it is my birthday! We are having a big picnic down on Brighton beach, there's bunting, balloons and I will be pretending to quaff wine with a lot of friends. Great thing about picnics is I can tip a glass or two over and no-one will notice :) Have a great day everyone.

LILI80 · 24/07/2011 09:54

freelance happy birthday and good luck for the scan tomorrow along with anyone else who are also having scans - really hope it goes ok.

Thanks to everyone who replied about the period type pains - I didn't have any yesterday but have got some more this morning.

Yesterday I went to Boots to get some pregnancy vits and I got to the checkout so be served by someone I work with!! I forgot she had a part time job there. Well anyway she saw the vits and said "are you?" I was so embarrassed and flustered so I said yes but it was very very early days. She said she won't tell anyone at work.

but I was so upset that she now knows - especially as I haven't told my parents yet! Also it felt awful telling her as I still can't quite believe it myself and I'm so worried it's all going to end! I don't think she will say anything but still...

Had a horrible dream last night. My friend is due to give birth next month and I had a dream she had a baby boy while I started to bleed and realised it was all over Sad

Sorry about wallowing but needed to off load. Hope everyone else is okxxx

milkyways · 23/07/2011 21:39

LAF That is terrible - you have every right to complain. I've lied about how far I was in pregnancy with my DD, but that was to complain to the council about next door's dog that broke into our garden and chased me when I was about 24 weeks pregnant!

LILI I had those pains in early pregnancy too and I was very distressed, but they are nothing more than round ligament pain. It is just your uterus stretching and things moving about. During week 9, I had a whole 2 days of cramps and pains shooting from my pelvis up to the area my ovaries are. Try not to worry, although it is hard not to.

laylasmummy I've been having nightmares about 4 nights in a row now. They really are terrible dreams that I can't even bring myself to repeat....I just hope they stop soon!

freelance Hope you have a lovely birthday! I was watching Friends this morning - the one when Rachel is pregnant on Monica's wedding and she spits out the champagne back into the glass! Hope you're more subtle than that tomorrow!

Livinthemoment Welcome to the thread, I am sure you will get the right support here. It's hard to get confident in a pregnancy when it has been taken away from you before, but fx everything will work out fine for you this time!

LivinInTheMoment · 23/07/2011 17:18

Hi Ladies, can i join in your group? I had a complete mc in May, i was into my 8th week, but bean had stopped growing at about 6 1/2 wks. I only found out after spotting began and then 3 days later had internal scan. bled for 2 wks solid then had another scan which confirmed all was over. So heartbroken. Doc told us to wait til i got a period then ttc again.

We didn't wait ha! And am pg again woohoo! Have an idea on how far along i am, think i'm about 7wks...

Had a scan booked for Friday, but had to cancel it as fiance could not join me. So may book in for scan next week if feeling brave enough...

Still have my symptoms of big heavy boobs, and bloating, no sign of ms and did not have this last time either.

Its such a worry tho, i don't want to get too confident in this pg yet, just incase.. i feel like a doom n gloomer

freelancegirl · 23/07/2011 09:22

Hi Marathon sorry to hear you are feeling like that. How are you feeling today? I am feeling a bit like that too - convinced it's going to happen again. I have only the occasional symptom and no sore boobs, nothing. Just hungry. Tummy swollen but probably with steroids and eating for England! I am six weeks on Monday and will be having a first scan.

LAF your journey home sounds like a nightmare! Just not what you need when feeling so ropey. Glad you are feeling ropey, though. Must be quite comforting to have some symptoms.

Lili I have been having a few mild cramps too and they freak me out. I looked up these and it does seem they are perfectly normal. But for me that's how I became aware of the mmc last time so of course it's going to freak us out. There's a name for them that I was googling like mad yesterday and this morning my brain just can't dig it out!! I freak out when I get them, freak out when i don't get them. Can't win!

Great news Laylas about your scans etc but those dreams sound awful! Really frightening. I have always been told that bad dreams mean good things in real life though so try to think of it as your mind just working through it all.

Good luck to my fellow 'scanees' in the next few days! It's my birthday tomorrow and having a big picnic at which will be trying to pretend to a) be drinking and b) not be freaking out about Monday's scan.

laylasmummy09 · 22/07/2011 23:07

Hello All you newbies sorry for your losses and congratulations on your new pregnancies
LILI80 I had those pains a lot in the eavenings til 12 weeks sort of 3days on 2 0ff they really worried me as I hadn't had them with my DD and they were really painful but I think it was just stretching,

All good here booked my 16 wk mw appt and got normal NT measurement so just hoping bloods come back good, hyperemesis playing me up though my meds dose has been lowered and I'm feeling dreadful constantly and I am also having nightmares, they are strange reccurring ones in one I'm on a plane with oh and dd when the enginesa cut out all the children start screaming and then it plummets but I always wake up before it hits the ground, in another a plane crashes down infront of me and I'm just watching unable to do anything and in the other its like my baby is dangerous like a killer or cancer or an alien and its born early by fighting its way out of my tummy leaving an open hole its awful.
Thanx doo for sorting out the thread,
Hello everyone else, have a good weekend all x

MarathonMama · 22/07/2011 22:06

Hi all, just marking my spot as everyone left and didn't tell me Grin

I'm 6 weeks today but convinced it's going to be another mmc. I just knew last time and feel the same again.

Anyway, will add more later waves

Twittwooo · 22/07/2011 21:17

Thank you notnowImreading, I remember you from the other thread too. Your posts were really supportive. How are you getting on? I hope you're doing well.

It has happened again very quickly for us and I'm thankful for that, but of course I'm a bit nervous too and taking each day at a time at the moment.

I really hope you will be in the same situation very soon - fingers crossed, and I'll keep my eye out for good news from you on these threads! x

notnowImreading · 22/07/2011 17:56

Just wanted to say congratulations, Twitwoo. I remember your posts on the mc at 6 weeks thread - good to see you on here. That was really quick! Fingers crossed I'll be joining you one day soon.

LILI80 · 22/07/2011 17:55

Just wanted to pop my head in and say thank you to everyone for the lovely welcome!

twoo I am about 5.4 weeks and the only symptoms I've got are extreme tiredness and sore achy boobs! I had sickeness with my DD and my last pg so I'm getting a little concerned but I think last time my sickness kicked in at around 6 weeks.

Was just wondering if any of you who are further along had bad period type cramps in the early stages? I can't remember getting it quite like this and some days when it kicks in I really think it's game over :-(

collie & cep how you guys are getting on? I still can't quite believe I'm pg especially as I've found out I'm pg the same month my baby should have been born! Almost seems a bit surreal!

LAF77 · 22/07/2011 17:34

Hi milkyway I had a disastrous trip home. The airport in ATL closed due to a thunderstorm and I missed my connecting flight. I had to hang around the airport for 5 hours. I wasn't happy. I tried to fanangle an upgrade, telling a bit of a porky pie, that I was 8 weeks pregnant (I'm not even 5, although sometimes I'm so bloated, I could pass for further along). I got to have an exit row seat which was better than stuck in the middle for 8+ hours. The airline didn't give me anything. I've written a big complaint letter.

I've made an appointment to have my Vitamin D levels checked on Tuesday. I'm not sure if my local surgery can take the bloods or if I have to go to the hospital. We'll see. Hopefully, it won't be too late.

My boobs are feeling even more sore to the touch and I dry heaved again this morning, yay! I'm remembering the due date of my third baby today. She is with me in my thoughts every single day.

milkyways · 22/07/2011 13:11

LAF I hope you were okay yesterday. Thinking of you.

freelance My counsellor said a very similar thing to me about the EDD and the scan too. I know it will definitely help me deal with it better if things work out fine. Then, my pessimistic side tells me if I lose this baby then that will be double the pain, but hopefully that won't happen.

purpletoes Well done on telling your parents. I still haven't told any family, and am actively avoiding any meet ups because I just feel afraid and apprehensive. Hopefully by 20 weeks I will build up the courage!

twittwoo I had the same kind of pains in early pregnancy too. It is ligament pain from your uterus stretching and things moving about. Mine used to hurt if I sat a particular way for too long, or if I turned over in bed a weird way. Hard as it is, try to stay positive!

I'm having big problems sleeping too. My eyes open at 3am every morning and the horrible nightmares I've been having aren't helping either. I had the most horrifying nightmare last night which has left me shaken and really sad today. I hope they stop.

Waves to everyone, good luck in the upcoming scans and hope you're all well!

dooscooby · 22/07/2011 12:48

Hey harassed, I bought the dream geni too the other week! I had a week of glorious sleep and felt a million dollars for it, but last night I think the early napping ruined it and then the neighbours were being really noisy too. I like the DG, I did look at another one that looked a bit nicer visually, but I plumped for the DG in the end. Think I might be on a growth spurt or something as I feel really lethargic this wk.
You're gonna have to hold my hand nearer the time what with you having DC already, I'm sure i'll need some experience and wisdom as I'm clueless! I'm an Xmas eve kid myself so I'd also love to sneak in a nice happy ending before Christmas! I lurked on the dec forum and they were talking about when they were feeling movements. Feel very lucky on that front as Ive been getting them daily from 16.5wks, although typically I did then manage to turn
thst fact into a worry that perhaps bub is distressed and therefore moving alot so early!!! What an idiot I am!

stitch -the internal/external scan thing seems really inconsistent. With my 2nd mc I paid for a private scan at 8wks and they wanted to do fanjocam, but this time at the rmc I had scans at 7,8,10,12 and all external with a good view of bub. I reckon by 10 external will be the norm though like you say. I hope the time flies by until then x

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