so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

Aw, good news Wombat, hopefully she will be home soon
Wombatjnr is welcome to play, we need some pyscho parents on the sidelines! Worm, any chance the lady of the manor would like to fund the strips?

Aw sparkly - thank you and sorry to have set the emotional rollercoaster off again for you (bad DH for not letting you have the apple tree - you would have nursed it back to health for sure).

Just had a call from the vet and things may not be as bad as they seem. The front leg is a fairly standard fracture and can be fixed with a plate. The pelvis is broken on one side and may be what is causing the nerve damage. She seems to be able to bear weight on one side and apparently both legs are still just about the same length. He can?t guarantee that the traumatised nerve will sort itself out but seemed to think it does in 9 cases out of 10?.. we?re going to see the vet and Suki around 6ish tonight and will prob go ahead with the surgery so not as bad as we had first feared. Sorry to have been so doom and gloom earlier but it really wasn't looking good.

Loving the idea of a coffee lounge footie team! If star has a boy too then it could be awesome given her DH is Frank Lampard or similar . Although we still think junior will be blue flavoured, even if she's pink, can she still play? DH and I both quite sporty so will probably end up as those horrendous competitive sports day parents

Oh, I'm welling up for Suki, poor thing! I hope it's something less serious than her spine Wombat, let us know as soon as you hear back from the vets. Absolutely hate animals in pain
Must have sugary tea now.
Harassed, lovely news, another member of the Coffee Lounge footie team! Though Monty is as likely to be sporty as I am to be sipping a brussel sprout smoothie. DH is fit ain't he (wink nudge), we're in with a fighting chance. So, is it to be Vinnie then?
Wombat, am sending you hugs. I am very emotional at the moment, cried in the garden centre at the weekend because DH wouldn't let me buy a discounted (ergo rejected and doomed to die) apple tree, with one leedle red apple on it, all on it's own

Sorry to hear about your scare cuttlefish - fingers crossed that is all the drama over for this pg.

Fingers tightly crossed also for wellie - you have admirable patience waiting for the weekend! Great to hear you had such a nice break - somewhere else in Aus?

Hooray for team blue harassed! Great news! What does DH and others think? I think you thought it was a girl?

And great re: the headaches worm - what a PITA that must have been.

Bit of a post from me - our daft but darling dog Suki got hit by a car last night and after a very uncomfortable night - she was screaming in agony every time she tried to turn over - I took her to the vets this morning. She has a compound fracture at the wrist of one of her front legs and it seems she can;t support her back legs and vet thinks it's spinal cord issues and / or broken hip or pelvis. They sedated her and will do x-rays and then call me. It doesn't sound good though - if it was just the fracture they will operate etc. but if the back legs have gone too, we'll have to look at the grim alternative. I've never had a pet before her and surprised by just how much this saddens me.

Ah congrats harrased, what does DD think to the news?

All crossed AF does a disappearing act for 9 months wellie

Scary for you with the bleed cuttlefish I really hope it was just bean getting bedded in nice and deep.

Thanks for all the decorating advise ladies, I still havn't fully decided, but all the advise on the other thread says not to paint but to sand and either wax or varnish again, apparently the orangy look is just because it is old varnish.

Today is the first day I havn't had a nagging headache all day for 3 weeks I still awoke with one but it went quickly away.

It's a boy!! Everything all ok .

Just off to tell mil as she's been in hospital for almost 5 weeks, but be back later.

Hi ladies!

Very quick one on way to bed after fabulous relaxing holiday - can't believe it's all over and there's work in the morning! :)

CD33 here and no sign of AF or of any symptoms :( - but given that some of my cycles post mc have been longer i am at least waiting until the weekend to test.

Going to book the docs for next friday as I have a day off - I have been so irregular since the mc compared to before (I was pretty much a textbook 28 day girl, then went on implanon and after that the 5 cycles I had before pg were 29 or 30 - since then I have been all over teh place!)

hope you are ok cuttlefish, sounds like you had a scary weekend, have a very unMN hug.

harassed hope the scan goes well and that you are doing OK

Yay for liking the house more wombat and for lots of movement

hi emma we missed you!

Waves to everyone else!

I'm ok Wombat, but I had a massive bleed on Saturday, thought it was all over and ended up in A&E. Two scans later and the heartbeat is there and still going strong today! So pleased you're getting lots of kicks, won't be long till there's limbs everywhere!

Yellow good news about your nuchal results. Do you find the acupuncture relaxing? I've been thinking of trying it.

Harassed are you still dopplering? Is that even a word! My due date for my miscarriage was the same as my sisters. She doesn't know, but I do feel very weird about it all. Hope you find out at the scan today!! Have you been counting magpies?

Marathon I'm 7 weeks too. Just felling a little sick every few days, and sometimes my boobs are sore (but that could be because I'm poking them all the time!!) I still plan to have a private scan in a couple of weeks to check everything is going ok before the 12 week scan. Now that I've had a bleed, I'm not so reassured by the heartbeat...

Is that your 20 week scan then harassed? Good luck! Can't believe it's come around so quick....Good that you've got lots of wriggles. Wombatjunior hardly seems to rest these days - hope that doesn't continue when he's born! Will be looking out later to see what flavour you've got - don't keep us in suspense too long!

Still interested to hear what reaction yellow got from her parentals - hope all went well.

Glad you enjoyed your hols sparkly and that Monty is doing well. Has the team blue news sunk in properly?

Anyone heard from star of late? Hope you're ok wherever you are - what's the latest with your dates / scans etc?

Would love to give you some decorating advice worm but I am the worst procrastinator ever when it comes to interior design and tend to end up quite unadventurous although we have recently chosen 2 tangerine orange chairs to go into our new villa!

Aw, at work (and actually working!) but wanted to say good luck for tomorrow Harassed!

Oh fgs!!! Posting at work, phone rang so MN logged me out and ate my long post!!!

To summarise:

Sparkly Mmmm yummy!! Your hols sound lovely, my favourite kind! We're not going away, and I'm taking days here and there to be with dd. Hope work is ok, remember, it's just a job!

Yellow How did your parents take the news?? Sorry about inlaws reaction, did you catch them on the hop and they didn't know what to say?

Emma good luck lovely!

Wellie enjoy your hols .

Worm good to hear all is going along well. Don't paint the floor boards! They never look as nice as in the mags/your head, and are a pain to maintain and keep clean. I re-sand and lime or stain.

marathon I was clinging onto those stats wombat mentions! In between trying to ignore the ms and exhaustion....

Wombat glad you're settling in well, but don't work too hard!!!

Not much to report here! Wriggles aplenty so the doppler habit is subsiding again. My friend with the baby came round yesterday so I had lots of cuddles. He's gorgeous, but a bruiser! Had a bit of a sob on dh's permanently soggy shoulder last night. It's hard to get it straight in my head tbh as they were all so close together. I want, but know it's physically impossible, all 3 bubs iykwim!!!

Oh and it's scan day tomorrow! Hope bug plays the game so we can find out what flavour SHE (my guess based on the fact dh has two dd's already) is.

Worm, the F&B is lovely, very classy. The butler will feel the bees knees answering the door surrounded by such a lovely hue. Anyway, don't paint the floorboards! I am in the process of painting our landing white, so a tad hypocritical, but it's a 30's semi and the boards are in a state, plus it's a small surface area and not an imposing entrance to the East Wing ; however, in a previous house I painted a dining room floor in white and always regreted it, it never turns out like the pics in Living Etc. So my twopennuff would be to re-sand, and if you've gone off the pine effect (which looks warm rather than orange) then try liming, for a more whitewashed, scandanavian effect - bit more work but you can always get in a man that does
Was off work last week on hols, hence no posting as bimbling about doing family things and a spot of gardening. Bliss, and am determined not to let work stress me out now. Monty seems fine, still not feeling much movement, just the odd flip, and getting indigestion a lot now which apprently means he's hairy - eek! Will post more later in the week once the normal life routine resumes.
Anyone for croissants with salty butter and apricot jam? x

Good to hear from you wombat and great news on the kicks, My DH is excited about when he can feel it. My DS has started cuddling my tummy and saying night night to bump, so sweet!
If you have a minute ladies could you have a look at here at my decorating dilema thread and give me your 2-penneth.
Hope you are all well

I felt exactly the same worm when I read yellow's post and I'm still goosebumpy typing now - it really is one of those stories that makes you go wow! and to keep up hope in the face of adversity.

Soooo.... loads of news to catch up on - sorry not to have been around for a while - work has been busy and still lots of tidying up etc. to do around the new villa which I'm definitely liking more now (thank goodness!) but may I first of all give a big yaaaaaaaay! for good nuchal results for yellow and worm - it's a big relief I know. Dying to know what your parents said yellow - do let us know and I hope it was more enthused than DP's parents.... do you think it's something to do with telling them over the phone and being French (I assume they are - nothing against the French, but perhaps a national trait is not being excited about exciting news

With you on the scan fear marathon - would you maybe want to leave it til around 10 weeks? You've done fantastically getting past 6 weeks - your chances drop from 10% to 5% post 6 weeks and get better still as you reach the 12 week mark. I know stats don't always make you feel better, but hope these may help in some way - sending hugs.

Good to hear you got a emma - I found them very reliable. I'm curious to know, like yellow, if you got the smiley faces pre-clomid. Good luck with it all - we're all gunning for you.

Wondering how you're getting on mrsb - do drop by if you get a chance.

PITA with your irregular cycles wellie - has that always been the case? I wondered if moving down under and all the hassles that go with that have upset the balance a bit. Were you regular before mc and WTF? If so, might be worth seeing someone to get a bit of reassurance if nothing else. Do you use OPKs?

Sorry you were feeling a bit blue harassed - fully understandable - sending hugs and hope you're feeling ok-ish now. Thanks for the info on spd - very interesting. I will keep an eye out for those symptoms. I'm going to my first pilates class this thursday - it's not a special pg one, but I'm sure they'll let me know if there's something I'm not supposed to be doing.

How are cuttlefish and purple getting on? Hope all is well with you both and you're getting as many symptoms as you would like

How are things with Monty sparkly? Hope all good.

All seems to be ticking along nicely here (fingers crossed, touch wood etc.) - Junior has been kicking up a storm lately and DH felt him move yesterday and we could even see my belly bouncing up and down last night! No visible body parts or anything but definitely a trampoline look about it (but not as taut - more wobble than anything!)

Hi Ladies
I have been around in a lurking capacity, but havn't had anything interesting to say and don't like to bore the TTc ladies, after all this is a conception forum!
yellow even though I knew about your story and have been "with you" through it, seeing it written down and reading it just made me go all goosebumpy :) Hope your parents made up for the in-laws lack of initial enthusiasm, I bet you just caught them un-awares and they will catch on soon enough.
Hi marathon I know exactly what you mean about the early scan not being a re-assurance, I felt exactly the same and held on until the 12 week scan. I didn't look at the screen either until she started talking about "it" I too felt mine wasn't real too, but it was fine........fingers crossed your MC days are behind you too.
Sending positve 2ww vibes to you emma have yu thought of accupuncture too?
Sending hugs to you harrased hope you are feeling a bit better now.
Hope you are having a nice shaggalicious holiday wellie
Waves to Sparkly star wombat and cuttlefish sorry if I missed anyone.

Yellow thanks so much for that. I've copied it verbatim and will add a link to this thread so that she can ask further questions if she wants to.

I'm not sure about an early scan. I had one with the mmc at 7 weeks and all was well (saw hb etc) but then by the time we got to the 12 week scan it had all gone tits up, so I don't think I'll find an early scan that reassuring. I haven't had any symptoms this time (as was also the case with the mmc) but I did have symptoms with my DD so I'm convinced this one has gone the same way as the mmc. The idea of a scan fills me with fear as I acutely remember the feeling at the 12 week scan when the sonographer put the probe on my belly and there was just an empty hole with something looking like a wet piece of laundry lying at the bottom. It make me feel sick just thinking of it and I don't think I can face that again.

Do your DP's parents know about the mc? That's a strange reaction, I love the olympic park comment. Maybe he was thinking ahead about you not being able to go next year with a new bambino and all, so he's thinking you should visit now??! Hope your parents were better?

Happy Sunday all!

Morning all

harassed sorry you're having a tough time, it's really difficult when things hit in unexpected ways like that. How are you feeling now? How is the doppler habit? It seems like it is so hard to relax at any stage........hope you are feeling a little better.

emma fingers crossed, did you used to get smiley faces before the Clomid? Do you get CM too as i found that to be a more reliable indicator than the ov sticks but it was very regular and noticeable.

marathon oooh, 7 weeks, are you having an early scan or are you going to wait until 12 weeks? I had acupuncture........I'll tell the whole story and I'm happy for you to pass it on or edit etc........
We started trying in July 2008 and it took a year to get pg....that ended in a mmc, growth stopped at 4/5 weeks but it wasn't detected until i had an early scan at 8 weeks. Mc happened eventually happened naturally at about 11 weeks. Took about another year to get pg again. Had a scan 6.5 all fine, 8.5 pg had ended, had ERPC the next day. Went to see private dr in Harley st for blood tests. As a result of AMH test and FSH he told me I had fertility of 44 yr old (I'm 38) was unlikely to conceive and if I did I'd have 75% chance of mc. He recommended that our best option was IVF with donor eggs.
So I went to see acupuncturist. He was v positive and started me on some chinese herbs and acupuncture every week. This time it 4 months to get pg (but 2 of those months we didn't actually try due to me and dp being in different countries at the 'right' time) He gave me different herbs once pg and I am now nearly 14 weeks and see acupuncturist every 2 weeks.

Sorry that's a bit long........happy to answer any questions.......

So we've started telling our news. We called DPs parents on Friday. He spoke to his Mum and her reaction was 'you're joking' and then gave the phone to his Dad and refused to speak as she didn't think it was a funny joke! She eventually realised we weren't joking but response was a little muted. His Dad had wandered off to make some chips and when he came back on the phone said 'so have you been to the Olympic park yet?' WTF??????

So we're telling my parents today and hoping for a better reaction.......

I'm still feeling sick on and off but it is getting a bit better. I still get v tired by 10pm which is annoying, I want to be a full of energy pg person.......

Hope everyone is enjoying the lovely sunshine..........

Hello all, nothing to report here but I don have a quick question. One of the ladies on another thread I'm on was asking if anyone had any experience of acupuncture when ttc after mc. I know someone here used it and wondered if whoever it was could give me a little summary to take back to her?

No symptoms here, 7 weeks now, trying to burying my head in the sand.

Good luck Emma

Hope you're all ok waves

Hello, sorry for my absence, I haven't even been lurking, have been feeling really low and didn't want to just gripe and moan...
First round of Clomid over - on the 2ww - we got a :) on CD17 now on CD24 so back rummaging for CM and hoping that the eye strain from work is really a sicky feeling.

I haven't had a chance to catch up on all the goss, but saw that sparkly got a blue one!!

Will go and catch up on you all and the newbies... we have a busy weekend of kids birthday parties lined up so need some sleep :)

Morning!

yellow fab results! How lovely to start telling everyone

wellie have a great time x

I'm doing ok, but having a difficult time. One of my closest friends had a cs yesterday. I knew, I was prepared, but still hit me like a tonne of bricks. Especially as we were meant to be doing it all together. Got our bfp's within days of each other etc, etc. Except of course I had a mmc. So my due date is the 11th, and I just feel a bit weird about it all. Bug has moved right round so not feeling so many movements which has freaked me out and given me irrational thoughts. Plus increased my doppler habit! Was ok before, I'd use it every 2-3 days, but twice last night and again this morning.

Plus dh told me this morning that my dil is preg. Ds1 (not his son) told him yesterday and said he was going to phone me last night. I feel really odd, because dil was talking about selling the pram so I said I'd have it, then apparently ds didn't want to sell it because his dad bought it etc etc. So feel a bit odd about that too......

Sorry huge me, me, me post! Off to get a grip .

Quick post from phone on way to airport to say YAY for some more fab nuchal results yellow!!!

See you next week!

Hello ladies

wellie it is so annoying when the cycle is irregular, I had the same problem going between 25 and 32 days.

I am going to try pg yoga, haven't been to the gym for 2 months as have been feeling so sick

harassed I am feeling much better overall, still with only about half my usual energy levels though. Only have a couple I sick twinges a day which involve retching but not being sick. Hopefully I will continue to improve! Sorry to hear your problems, hope they improve/don't get worse!

Got my results today 1 in 1100 feel v relieved. Why did they send my scan appt for dec first class and these results second class?

We are about to tell first family member - dp's sister. Exciting!

Morning everybody!
just coming on to wish everyone happy weekend as we are taking advantage of a long weekend over here to visit some of DH's friends who have moved away and who we haven't seen for years. I will NOT be MN'ing from their house :)

Hugs to those wishing for symptoms and those wishing symptoms would calm down a bit, harassed hope you are doing OK lovely, and worm huge on the nuchal result!

wombat you asked about my average CL - and so I worked it out! (I promise I didn't know off the top of my head!) and it is about 30.5 since the mc and WTF, but ranging from 26-36. First two cycles were long, and the last 3 have been 26-29, so shortening to more "normal". It's irritating though cos it means I haven't got the foggiest when I am late

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend and see you next week!

Waves!!

hmm well the croissants brought me out! But only if the jam is rhubarb. I love Bonne Maman rhubarb jam, but bizarrely it seems to be the only flavour they don't stock over here! Sure rhubarb is a very English thing?!

wombat I've been doing prg yoga and it really does help. The teacher is one of the local mw's so got some extra tips off her as I was really sore last night, but had spent the day rushing around! Yoga is finished for the hols now though, so some lucky pub is going to be getting 10+ preg women next Wed . Spd is right down in your pubic bone. As I understand, it's in two parts and the hormones soften the ligaments which can cause the parts to rub and hurt. If I've over done it, it's sore and twingey as in the early stages. Seeing my chiro on Monday, and I'm hoping I can persuade her to manipulate me in the next fews weeks! This gives a good explanation, better than mine!

worm good result!!!

yellow how are you feeling now? I'm 19 weeks today and still getting the odd sicky day, but so much improved! Was a slow improvement though.

cuttle and marathon good to hear from you both. Don't worry about symptoms, it doesn't actually mean anything! I hated the stage you're both at though, so worrying.

Hurrah worm that is excellent news, you must be well pleased.