CLOMID GANG - the new thread

Artoo i to was told of the risks, and my gyny said not puting me on a high dose so i can take longer, now on 4th cycle but still 50mg

Artoo - I was told I could only have clomid for 6 months because of this risk and I was really surprised to find people here on MN who were on their 12th or 13th cycle.

I asked my consultant if I could take more (as I have had a year's break) and he said I could take as much as I like but it's my responsibility!!!!!!

I think the chances are small and, after what has happened to us, I personally feel the risk is worth taking but I quite understand why you would want to see him.
Get onto it quickly - it took my consultant 3 months to reply to my letter and I'm still waiting for the personal appointment he promised me in August 2005.

If I get AF this month I am going to get nasty!!!!!

Ladies,

There was an interesting article on Infertility in the Observer this weekend. Click here for the article .

Included in the article is this little gem:

"There is also the unproven but debated link between fertility drugs and ovarian cancer. In the British National Formulary, the medicine bible, the Committee of Safety of Medicine Advice says of clomifene, the drug used to stimulate the ovaries in fertility treatments (not usually in IVF): 'Not to be used for longer than six cycles (possible increased risk of ovarian cancer).'"

I'm now on my sixth cycle of clomid, and supposed to be taking it for another 6, but I'm really not happy about doing so without speaking to my consultant. I must write my letter to him urgently.

Do any of you have any knowledge of this risk?

Thanks and hugs,
Artoo.

Natty, clomid can work even after three months.... i know 2 other people whom it worked for in month 11 ! it worked for me month after finished 4th cycle. back on it next month now.

xXx
cd5. 4 weeks after m/c. no clomid this month.

It does but to be honest my body does so many weird things, god only knows.

Just going to keep up with the bding just in case and it is fun.

Sounds promising Nat

Yeah i know, DP thinks its funny when i get in a mood.

I started a journal a while ago but go board with it, might go back to it when i start clomid.

Have been feeling waves of sickness today and last night and tender boobs today so not sure what is going on with my body maybe it is trying to ovulate, going to ring doctors at lunchtime to sort out the precription.x

Tell him to grab your legs and give you a shake! Thats what I rad on here somewhere ...lmao

I am the same with my dh. If I got that cranky with him it would be time to rethink things. He makes me laugh so much though. Doesnt help that he thinks I am funny when cross at hime and then we both end up rofl!

Sorry try what?

I can never stay mad with DP long, i know when the time comes that i stay mad for longer than 24 hours it is time to call it a day.
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I read somewhere tell dh to shake you!

Will try that next time maybe!

I was reading your annoyance with dh Natty, All men are similar so dont worry too much. He will grow out of it once he HAS to be responsible. My dh is the same but doesnt have the excuse of hanging around his mates as they have all gone their seperate ways really. I get him all to myself, but that can be a pain too!

DH is actually planning on going to the indi festival soon which is in another state. He usually gets totally wasted. What fun!

I use that time to scrapbook.

If you dont already Natty you should try it. You can make the most beautiful things. I am going to do a pregnancy journal when the time comes. I guess could almost start now though as all this specialist stuff is part of the journey.

Excellent new wantababy. Yes i have been gettting 'busy' only on CD13 today so just practicing really, not legs wiggling in the air yet.

I spotted slightly after my smear.

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Hi all,

I hope you have been getting real busy Natty!

I had an appoint with my gp today. Had first ever smear test and was suprised how awful it was! I know there will be worse to come but gosh!! I am also bleeding lightly which I did not think would happen. The lovely lady even provided me with an internal! I dont recall asking for that though. She says ovaries seem fine. Did not realise you could touch them from down there!

Back to specialist tomorrow. Bit unsure what will happen.

Have tonnes of homework to mark tonight though so I should probably worry about that first.

On the side, I think maybe I did ovulate due to the pain I had, some ferning patterns and also temp has been rising. Spoke to gp and she seems to think this is possible. Fingers crossed. If did ov then dh and I have been bd like crazy so we may just get there! One can only hope.

Hope you are all feeling positive. I know most days its hard to do when you want something so desperately and it is out of your control.

Will try to come back once have finished my huge pile of marking.

Hi all,

I hope you have been getting real busy Natty!

I had an appoint with my gp today. Had first ever smear test and was suprised how awful it was! I know there will be worse to come but gosh!! I am also bleeding lightly which I did not think would happen. The lovely lady even provided me with an internal! I dont recall asking for that though. She says ovaries seem fine. Did not realise you could touch them from down there!

Back to specialist tomorrow. Bit unsure what will happen.

Have tonnes of homework to mark tonight though so I should probably worry about that first.

On the side, I think maybe I did ovulate due to the pain I had, some ferning patterns and also temp has been rising. Spoke to gp and she seems to think this is possible. Fingers crossed. If did ov then dh and I have been bd like crazy so we may just get there! One can only hope.

Hope you are all feeling positive. I know most days its hard to do when you want something so desperately and it is out of your control.

Will try to come back once have finished my huge pile of marking.

Hi dizzy

Shame you don't have anyone in RL to support you though IVF, hopfully MIL will suprise you and be lovely.

You never know you might be pregnant right now and save you the bother, hope you are, but if not fingers crossed FSH levels are okay for you to go ahead.

hi everyone, sounds like lots been going on while been away (just had a lovely week in cornwall, the one week when it rained in my hometown so was nice)

this is a chlomid free month for me and we decided to chill out and try and forget about everything while away. Only bd on day 10 and 13 around ovulation. Did notice that got sore boobs from day 14. Usually get about wk before AF due.

Think the chlomid has affected my cycle what with the unusual af at the start of this cycle and had sore boobs on and off since day 1, continuous from day 14 tho which suggests af on way, maybe sooner than normal.

looks like will be going for ivf next cycle. going to order the drugs tomorrow. have to admit not overly excited about it. Not told anyone been ttc and looks like am going to have to let my mother-in-law know so she can help us out with my ds. will wait till day 2 blood tests tho, if fsh too high can't do it and so no need to let any1 know about it. Would be really nice to be able to talk to someone about ttc but don't really have anyone who feel close enough to, except dh. Never know, she might surprise me and be really supportive!

Sounds good SKBF - brave lady but needs must. Hope it works for you.

Artoo - hope you get some answers from your clinic.

one quick question for all you ladies already on clomid - do you know the sucess rate? Also reflecting on what Artoo said about if it does not work in 3 months then not much point in contining it, is this true? My clinic has said i will only ever be allowed 12 cycles of it in my whole life so what happens if i need it for next pregnancies? i know i am getting ahead of myself here but just a thought.

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Good luck SKBF!

Rachee - the reason for the long wait until my next consultant appointment is that they want to give the clomid a long time to work. Scans during my first three clomid cycles showed that I was responding well to the drug, and I produced a good follicle each month. So the attitude my climic is taking is that I am now on a level playing field with everyone else, and given that the vast majority of couples conceive within their first year of trying, they want us to have that year before they start anything more "invasive".

I'm going to write a letter to them, as I still have a load of outstanding questions. One of which is that I see a lot of comments from people who are being advised that if clomid doesn't work in the first 3 months it probably won't work at all. Plus I am still worried that my luteal phase is not long enough and varies too much (it's been between 10 and 12 days).

Anyway, I'll let you know how I get on

Hugs,
Artoo.
CD7, 6th clomid cycle, TTC 1 year.

Good to hear from you SKBF.
Hope all goes well with those injectables....brave woman you!! I think I would have to get DH to do it....but then he's worse than I am!!!

Let us know how you get on.
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Hi everybody, have been busy and keeping a low profile but have been checking the thread to see if there is any announcements.

Me: finished my 4th cycle of clomid and still no success so on to injectibles in the form of Menopur. AM being scanned and having blood tests on Monday which will be day 4 and if no cysts then will start injecting that afternoon. Will go back to clinic for injection and to be shown and will be given kit to do at home but not sure if I am able. Was told by consultant (and by obstetrician friend) that no point in continuing the clomid as if it is going to work it usually works quickly (it did for me in the first month but I miscarried and had 3 subsequent clomid cycles but no pregs) so best not to waste any more time and go onto injectibles which results in more follicles. My Ob friend said that 3 is a good number and I have been getting 1 or 2 follicles on clomid. The more follicles, the higher the chances. She said even if I had 4 I should still go ahead as at my age (42 next month) it is unlikely that 4 will fertilise whereas if I was say 28, she would recommend a max of 3 as a 28 is more likely to fertilise all of the follicles.

Anyway, that is an update from me. I felt the mood swings from the clomid in 1st and 2nd cycle but not in the 3rd or 4th. My body seemed to have settled down.

Wishing you all the best of luck on Clomid. Am starting an injectible thread!!

Artoo... That is a very long wait? i would querry that.... espescially on clomid! try taking clomid wrong ( has worked for many, when been on it along time), by that i mean, on the last but one day, take extra. Ie, day 2, 3 4 - normal 100mgs. day 5 150 mgs. day 6 50 mgs. So your not using extra tablets, just increasing one of the days, can alos be done, day 2 50mgs, day 3 4 & 5 100mgs day 6 150 mgs..... Good luck.

Rabbits... Welcome ( and dd1) pcos, vicky beckham suffers with that and look at her popping them out, your right that diet makes a huge difference. Try a google search to find there web site.

This 'clomid gang' IS a god send.... we know we are not allone. a prob shared Is a prob halved... xXx Thanks to all.

xXx cd3

DD1

Many thanks - I've learnt so much by reading these entries & found it reassuring to know others have the same niggly problems. It's also saved me a few trips to the Dr's!

Rabbits,

I dont know much re PCOS, but Im also on 1st month of clomid(100mg), on CD24 and ovulated around CD12( according to ovulation sticks). Ive been having the same sort of symptoms from the evening of CD22. I keep thinking af is arriving as I have period type pains and headaches. Also feeling bloated. Im usually 27/28 days and never have these cramps so early. Ive put it down to the clomid.

Some consultants see people for scans around ovulation when on clomid, but mine dosnt. I suppose itsdown to the doc in question. I get seen about once a month.

good luck

DD1

Hello ladies - Can someone please give me a little advice re PCOS, clomid & pains...?
I was on depo for a long time, periods didn't return for 7 months so saw an accupuncturist & 2 weeks later they started! Now regular 28 day cycle.
Then no success TTC, had tests pretty quickly (I'm 34 & Dr was quite suportive). HSG result - fine, blood test result - 'likely to have ovulated', scan showed traces of PCOS. DH test was best the Dr had seen..
Now on 1st lot of 50mg clomid. Ovulation kit showed I ovulated days 12/13. So far side effects include bloating, change in discharge & slight period pains from day 19 to now (day 24). LUCKILY no mood swings.
Is the pain & change in discharge normal? Has anyone heard about a special diet that may help with PCOS to do with Glycemic Load? Am I meant to be seeing the Dr while I'm on clomid? Aahhh!

Lap and dye were done last cycle, around CD17/18. This cycle the ov sticks showed pos around CD12, and I had serious ovulation sensations at this time too, plus ewcm. (sorry tmi alert)Im still BDing though!!!!

The af cramps seem not as bad today as yesterday, but still there.

Good luck this cycle, Ive also heard that you are more fertile after MC, so fingers crossed for you

Artoo..what a long wait. Is there any way you can see the consultant before then???

DD1

Rachee - good luck this month! I have heard that you can be more fertile just after m/c, so let's hope that works out for you!

I'm CD4, just starting my 6th cycle of clomid. Rapidly losing faith that this is ever going to work for me, and got to wait until next February before next consultant appointment.

Hugs,
Artoo.