isn't it annoying? vol.2

evening
faithbaby i hope your boobs continue to be unusual!
boring evening here, ds in bed, dp out at a sports club barbie. Well I've stuck to my dentists request and eaten a ton of fruit and veg, used the most disgusting mouthwash in the world and an interdental stick which just generally involved me poking myself in the gum with it and making them bleed. bah. And I'm being good and virtuous and taking my multivits. If nothing else, I should at least be super healthy this month and that can't be a bad thing.

Must have been too much Christmas spirit for us all to decide at the same time!

I think I must be at or around the point of ovulation now. I have a Duofertility monitor (yet to be convinced as to whether it was just a HUGE waste of money) and that doesn't seem to think I've ovulated yet but any day around now.

Havealittlefaith - Changes to boobs sounds quite promising - I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. xx

Hi Lisa welcome! I've been ttc for 18 months too (did everyone decide at Christmas/new year too then?!).
Where are you in your cycle?
I'm ?8/?10 dpo futility fiend keeps changing its mind.(Nb if new to Mumsnet FF -futility fiend-- fertility friend is a charting website where you add your fertile data and it calculates when it thinks you ovulated and when your af is due.
My boobs are unusual at present, normally tender and growing but I've got an awful stabbing pain. Working out was a tad painful! Could this be a positive.sign?!

no problem, and no doubt I'll be back later once ds is in bed and when dp goes out

Have a great evening - and thanks for making me feel so welcome :) x

right, better pack up my stuff and go home. Only one more day of work this week hurrah!

Ah thank you very much - very enlightening! xx

this list should help you out if you are new here!

Love it! Well actually, obviously I hate it (AF), but like the nickname!

Thanks

Evil Red Tide of Doom otherwise known as AF/ aunt flo/ your period.

Thanks queenrollo

I have another question too - what does ERTD stand for?

I am so backwards with this stuff
Lisa x

Hi lisa - yes 2ww is the 2 week wait.
18 months for me too, though with different partner this time. Wasn't straightforward conceiving my DS but no-where near as bad as this.
I find the last few days before AF arrives are my worst in the whole month. The rest of the time I'm generally rational

Ninja just rereeading some of the old posts - and we, like you, had no real trouble conceiving No 1. We first got pg 2nd mth of trying (although then I miscarried) and then second time around it was mth 3 (which was our son). so WHY SO LONG THIS TIME??? HUH? Doesn't make sense :(

Lisa xx

Hi everyone - room for a newbie? We are TTC No 2 (our son is 2 and three quarters).

We've been referred to the fertility clinic and are currently still TTC after 18 mths. Have had the day 5 and day 21 blood tests many months ago (seemed fine) and a HSG (seemed fine). Hubbie has done 2 SA - 1st showed low motility but second we think was ok - although follow up with consultant next friday.

Weird reading your posts as it SOOOOOO true what you say about the time after ovuation - I'm a nervous wreck and if I so much as blink too much I find myself wondering if that is a sign one way or the other. And as for the days AF is due - I must go to the toilet every 15 minutes or so! Ridiculous!

I do have a question - what does 2ww stand for? 2 wondering weeks? No idea!

Anyway - would be good to chat with others in the same boat - what stages are you guys at?

Thanks
Lisa xx

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14026830

there it is ninja.

I'm not the party animal I once was! I only managed to drink about three pints over the whole weekend too!

Agnus Castus can have quite a strong effect on your hormones, so I think i need to see what's happening with them naturally before I start taking it. I do have a medical herbalist though so if i do go for more natural medicine to help me along it will be prescribed by a professional.

thats really odd you say that as I went to the dentist yesterday (having to go every 3 months at the moment as have gum disease that won't go away). She was cleaning my teeth and she asked whether I was either pregnant or anaemic as they were bleeding so much when she cleaned them. If you can find a link to the article I'd be really interested. I'd never thought about the two affecting each other before. The dentist told me to use corsadyl mouthwash for a week (yuckety yuck), use interdental brushes every day and interestingly to eat much more fruit and veg to get more vitamin c as she didn't think I was having enough and it was affecting my gums.

can you talk to the nhs/ nurse/ gp/ anyone about taking agnus castus again? I have no idea how it would affect bloods.
and slap on the wrist for smoking and not taking your vits. Naughty girl. In all honesty I think thats quite mild if you've been at Glastonbury!

holiday was good thanks. Got soaked and muddy at Glasto and then the Sunday was baking hot so we've had it all.
Well we dtd last night, even though we were both tired because DH has to overnight in that London tonight because of work. Mind you its better than his old job where he'd occassionally have to do a whole week away.
Have booked appt with practice nurse to have day 21 bloods done.

I am almost convinced now that it was taking agnus castus last time that got me pregnant, but can't start taking it now as i could affect my blood tests and i don't want to screw up with the NHS now i'm in the system.
You're right Ninja I shouldn't blame myself. I said i never wanted a big gap, but my relationship with DS dad fell apart right at the 'time' when i would have ttc for another so it was out of my hands. And of course being in a new relationship meant doing the sensible thing and ignoring my broody urges.

I have been naughty and started smoking again while away. And i need to start taking my multi vit again too.

Did anyone else see that article on the news yesterday about dental hygiene affecting fertility? It depressed me mightily as I have gum disease and it is recurrent and I can't keep it away (there is evidence for it being genetic/hereditary and I have a family history, though my gran who lost all her teeth to it had 13 children so maybe it's rubbish after all). It made me wonder as it can be a factor in prem birth and Ds was 4 weeks early. I have to stop dwelling on this stuff.....

yes i think an early night here to. On the plus side I have started taking my conception multivits again so that a good thing. I'd been a bit slack in that department recently.

Aw ninja its very understandable that you feel rotten under the circumstances! Bit of tlc, early night, positive attitude in the morning! Early night for me, am shattered!

sorry about af queenrollo, how was your hol apart from that? how was glasto?
don't blame yourself for not being able to give ds a brother or sister. I totally get what you mean and its such a horrible feeling, I want to give ds a sibling almost as much as I want it myself if that makes sense. It really rips me up inside with feeling like I've failed him in some way but it is not our fault and blaming ourselves will get us nowhere.

faithbaby could you be feeling tired and irritable because you have fallen with child....

i've decied to have a break from the dreaded facebook as yet another of my friends has posted pics of her newborn and another keeps posting pregnancy updates. I can't cope with it and its not good for me so I'm staying away. I've got enough other crap on my plate at home within my family at the moment. I'm even going to delete it from my favorites list on my laptop so I'm not tempted. And I have decided that tomorrow is a new day and I will be happy and positive but today I'm miserable. I've been to the dentist and it was horrid. I've had a haircut I don't like. My parents haven't even put their house on the market yet and already I've had my mum round as her and my dad aren't speaking due to the move. And af arrived yesterday. Hurumph.

Sorry to hear that queenrollo. Weird with NHS isn't it? Like we've had to wait months for DH's SA but I've got a letter to call about my Hsg as soon as af arrives.
I agree you GP practice should be able to do your bloods.
I feel rubbish at the moment. Easy for my impending holiday. I'm tired and feel so low! It can't be pms surely its too early?! Only cd18...

hello all. AF got me while on holiday - knew she would...

Had an awful weekend, DS so lonely with no playmates and has compunded my feelings of failure at not providing a sibling for him. I never intended for him to be an only

Not heard from hospital and she didn't give me any indication of how long it would be before my ultrasound/hsg appt came. Need to ring GP and see if i can have blood tests done there rather than at hosp. It'll cost me a fortune in parking fees if i have to go there every time i need blood taken.

hello all. AF got me while on holiday - knew she would...

Had an awful weekend, DS so lonely with no playmates and has compunded my feelings of failure at not providing a sibling for him. I never intended for him to be an only

Not heard from hospital and she didn't give me any indication of how long it would be before my ultrasound/hsg appt came. Need to ring GP and see if i can have blood tests done there rather than at hosp. It'll cost me a fortune in parking fees if i have to go there every time i need blood taken.

oh dizzy losing a parent is a huge thing to go through as is a mc, my thoughts are with you and I'm a firm believer that it takes as long as it takes to grieve, each person is an individual with their own feelings and grieving is very important. I can only begin to imagine how it must feel.

Oh for goodness sake!
....you have a massive void is what I meant to say. The good news is it does gradually get easier. It's four years since my Mum had cancer and the anniversary of her death in October. I miss her like crazy but not as often and not as intensely as I did at your point in the grieving process.
If I may suggest, maybe the difference with your mc was you hasn't really had chance to get to know your baby and bond with it? Whereas you'd had a lifetime with your Dad. How you feel is how you feel, its not right or wrong, or cold even, its just feeling however you feel in that moment. Hang in there honey, one day you'll look back and realise how far you've come.