isn't it annoying? vol.2

Hmm they are quite sensitive. Weird you're having an unusually long luteal phase for you then. Why do our bodies cause us do much confusion?! [hangry]. Actually right now mine is only causing me pain!

I did a first response a few days ago and yesterday i did a midstream test from the net, not hopeful in the slightest

Sorry its bfn but hey it could still happen! What tests are you using?

Hey ladies, I'm still here im afraid. Now on 15dpo and no sign of AF or a BFP!!

Hi Lisa - if your cycles are roughly the same length each month then I don't think it's an issue and it's amazing how once you start charting or consciously TTC how many symptoms suddenly start appearing that you've never noticed before, or they feel stronger than they did the month before etc - the power of the mind is a funny thing. I am noticing symptoms A LOT more than I ever did before I started on this journey and each and every month there is something new or different that gets my hopes up.

From what I understand though, if your cycle length varies at all then it is due to ovulation either coming early or being delayed and that can happen for many reasons - illness and stress can have an effect. I either ovulate on day 18 or 19 but one month when I was ill around OV time, I didn't OV until day 23 so consequently AF was 4 days late. Because I'd seen this all happen on my chart meant I didn't get excited when AF didn't show when it was supposed to.
The length of time between OV and AF always tends to stay the same, give or take a day.

It's worth taking a look at Fertility Friend to get some info on how charting works but it also gave me a great insight into how my cycles pan out.

If there's anything else you want to know then just ask - I've been charting on and off for the last year and if I don't know the answer then someone else round here will!

Hope that helps! Time for a and a !

girls im sorry to hear some of you are having bad days.this ttc business is a nightmare!it shoots your emotions all over the place and just when you see a glimmer of hope the evil witch gets you.we have to be strong girls and positive.keep telling yourself you ARE going to get pregnant!!
CONGRATULATIONS KIKI!really pleased for you

I agree re the Queen Sorry you're having a rubbish day, I really feel for you.

Faithbaby not sure I can link my chart for others to see - it isn't on FF (which I only found out about last week). I know what you mean about 18 mths breeding cynicism - that's why I haven't been testing too early - can't take the rejection! Oh and lol at the lady in the shop

Lisa xx

Lisa may be worth joining the Charters Anonymous thread, I did that a couple if months ago, helps get an opinion when you can link your chart for others to see. Re the chemical pregnancy thing, its difficult to say tbh other than it doesn't really tell you much. I had one last cycle (one test positive then bfn with a 19 day luteal phase). DH said he could definitely see a line but nothing next day. We didn't get too excited (18 months ttc creates cynicism) but it was still gutting. The sensible thing is to test when af us due/late (easier said and done). I low what you mean.I've felt pregnant some months but I used to.test early and still got.bfns so I'm not sure how much was me willing it to be tbh!
I've had a nice day, DH took me put for lunch then bimbled round shops in Weston. Went to poundstretcher to buy poas tests cheapo for stock. Lady at till was very chatty asking about our holiday. Picked up the tests and said 'ooooOOOOHHhhh' , no shame! We couldn't stop laughing as we left!

i think we need all round on this thread at the moment.

I got all excited this morning when an NHS envelope popped through the door. Thought it might be news about ultrasound/hsg. NO. just another reminder for a smear I tried to book for it a couple of months ago but the new rules state you can only have it done on certain days in your cycle.

I'm having a grumpy day, emotional too - keep bursting into tears. Having real difficulty at the moment with the situation with my DS (i have 50/50 shared care with his dad). I miss him soooo much and am really struggling to cope with not having the life with him i thought I was going to have.

Sorry. Just needed to say that 'out loud'. Most of the time I'm ok with it but the whole ttc thing is bringing lots of emotion to the fore and I don't really know how to deal with it. I can't change the situation, I just have to get on with my life.

Oh Fishfinger that sucks .

Could you phone them periodically to check for cancellation appointments? I did that when we weren't going to be having or second appointment until the end of August (results were all back end of May) and when they put an extra clinic on the called and asked if we would like an appointment so nothing to lose?

Re the CP thing - you're probably right - it most likely is nothing at all. I do have regular 28 day cycles occasionally +/- 1 day but some months I just feel more pg and quite often I think this ties in with af being a day or two late. Or maybe the times I am a day or two late I get too carried away and think that I am more pg.

I do chart, using a monitor thing, but am not good at interpreting the chart. To me it looks like it goes up and down a lot. I've nonly been doing it for 3 cycles so not a lot to get a pattern. And as much as I can see when it thinks I've ov'd it all looks a bit double dutch to me. Not sure I can make much sense of it all (and I'm quite scientific!)

Lisa xx

OK, had a total meltdown about an hour ago but I think I'm over it now. I've been feeling very emotional the last 5 days or so which is not like me - normally on the approach to AF I am like Jekyll and Hyde lol! I get irritable and fly off the handle but don't get emotional. Anyway, I digress! Called to rearrange my appointment at the assisted conception unit (I prefer that name to the infertility clinic) and now I don't get to see them until the beginning of September. As I put the phone down, I just broke down and cried for a good 20 minutes (good job DH didn't come home!).
I think I'm OK now although I've just welled up again writing this - GAH!!! Get a grip!!!!

Lisa anything is a possibility but then again you may be reading too much into nothing if you see what I mean? Do you chart? Are your cycles regular but your symptoms have changed?

Incidentally, any thoughts on my chem pg thing below. Can't decide if I'm going mad or might have a point?

Honestly I'm getting so fed up of the ttc bit of ttc - still want a baby but so over having to try

Sorry - meant Fishfinger not Faithbaby

Glad you're feeling a bit better Faithbaby. Enjoy your cake and . know what you mean about getting your hopes up while pretending you're not - I do that every month too!!! you'd think I'd know better after so long!

Lisa xx

Hi all!

faith sorry AF got you but sounds like things are moving in the right direction with your appointments! I was supposed to have an appointment at the 'infertility clinic' (nice name, could you make us feel any worse about not being able to get pregnant???!!!) on Monday but as DH needs to give a sample before I go and see them the appointment will need to be changed as he can't get in for a week or so.

lisa and ninja I'm feeling a lot better today thanks, the pain hasn't completely gone but it's definitely managable now and I've even managed to get some cleaning done! Sad.....but it gets on my nerves if it gets left for too long.
This month was going OK until this week - my chart looked totally different after OV so of course I started getting my hopes up immediately whilst pretending that I wasn't lol!!! Then the kidney infection turned up and it's been downhill since then.
Oh well! My darling step-daughters made a chocolate cake at their auntie's house last night and brought a big wedge home for me so I'm going to go and have that with a cuppa!!

Catch up with you all later!!

Faithbaby - sorry about AF but good job on getting those appointments booked so quickly. Hope DP can get the time off. If he can't though I did both those things on my own and they were ok (still nicer to have DH there for hand holding though )

Lisa xx

Good news is I rang, they already had me booked in for pelvic ultrasound at 9.30 on Wed and can do Hsg at 8.30 so I'll get them all down in one morning and not have too much time off work. Just hoping DH can get the morning off.

I'm out too af got me this morning :( time to call to book Hsg and go for pelvic ultrasound.

fishfinger it sounds like its been a rough month for you, how are your kidneys today?
sorry you are feeling a bit pants too lisa
I am at work and rather bored.......

Oh, Fishfinger you were poorly weren't you? Are you at least feeling better on that front now? xx

Put = out - autocorrect on phone :(

Fishfingersarnie have a - I know how you feel as am most likely put this month too. All crampy and achey (see sep thread 'Weird pain' but this cycle has been a weird one with potentially no ov so we're also looking down the barrel of IVF or ICSI.

I have a worry at the back of my mind. So far my investigations have shown nothing wrong and one of DH's SA tests showed low motility. So on the face of it that might be our prob. However, before pg with DS I had a mc at 10 weeks. Now my worry is this. What if I've had some CPs while ttc? Some months I feel pg but AF always arrives so I never test. (too chicken to test early). What if I've misses CPs? Could totally change the treatment we need if the problem was actually that I can't hold on to a pg.... Just niggling away at the back of my mind.....

Hope everyone else is ok xxx

Morning ladies! Congrats kiki!!!!

I'm officially out this month - temp is now back to normal but has gone below the coverline this morning and am feeling crampy. Bugger. Onto month 14 then.....and fighting for ICSI!

Oh, and congratulations Kiki - lovely news x

Happy SWI-ing Ninja - good luck!