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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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olismum23 · 15/05/2011 23:24

Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

Add yourself to the stats list whenever you are ready.

wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

stats to follow

Part 15 here

OP posts:
BlueCrane · 11/06/2011 17:33

missgiraffe PMT could be a good thing Shock at least it means your body's getting itself back in line so hopefully TTC can commence properly once you've got AF out of the way! Smile

Right, back to B&B hunting and sorting out what we're going to do in Southern Ireland for our weekend away at the beginning of July!! There has to be a positive side of MC somewhere and this weekend away is that for us at the moment as we couldn't afford it whilst we were expecting an addition to the family in December as we needed to save every penny for when I would be off next year, but now allowing a little slack in the savings and a treat!

Missgiraffe1 · 11/06/2011 17:12

Hi Marathon nice to see you! Don't know anything about this progesterone withdrawal thing, sorry (might google out of interest though!)

Sorry for the me me me posts there, have just re-read and it was a total moan. Have just had a cry, and feel much better Smile Thanks Blue. Yeah, I'm not sure what I want, but am fairly certain (see above rant) that I pre-menstrual now!!

BlueCrane · 11/06/2011 16:57

marathon DH has an applemac and I have yet to find the hash key on it!! Sorry...guess it must be there somewhere though it could just be one of those odd apple things!! Hmm

missgiraffe it's so hard knowing that hormones sending you a bit loopy though I must confess I would probably have reacted the same way as you if my DH hadn't told his close family TBH. I was def expecting more bleeding but not unhappy that it seems to have stopped...like you am not looking forward to first AF as think it's going to be pretty rough, but I will take some comfort from knowing that my body is sorting itself out! DH wants to start trying asap though I am erring on waiting for AF first so that I know where I'm at if that makes sense, I know there's conflicting advice about when to start again so am a bit Confused about what to do for the best.

Have some peace and quiet at the mo as DH has gone out with his parents for an hour or so...hadn't realised how much I was craving some space...bliss for the moment!!

Missgiraffe1 · 11/06/2011 15:54

Blue Glad it all went ok, apart from the hand thing. Hope it sorts itself out. Enjoy tucking into the food - what a nice thing to do. I felt as though I gushed the first 2 times I went to the loo (sorry if TMI) after the ERPC, but then the day after was only very light bleeding/spotting, which had as good as stopped by the end of the following day. Expected much more tbh.

I am having DH issues, he didn't even tell his dad, step-mum or sisters about our MC. They know we've been trying (and knew about previous ectopic) so when we were all out last night, one SIS said "well, no sign of mini-me yet??". I felt really awkward as it was her birthday and I didn't want to give rotten news like that, so just joked saying we're still on the case. Put a bit of a dampner on the rest of night for me.

I accused my DH of the MC not being important enough to bother telling his close family about, that it was not high enough on his list of priorities. I feel like I've been a total beatch, I'm not normally like that. Will just have to blame the hormones (almost 4 weeks on?......... Note to self: stop being a cow)

Whingy, Hi. I thought the hospital said to me they'd give me test to take home to check after a couple of weeks that it was -ve, but then they didn't Confused. Actually, that might have been referring to the medical management option. I wasn't really taking it all in. I haven't tested, but wished I had now. I'll have to do one next week if af doesn't arrive (although, I have a feeling it will). I'm not sure how I'm feeling about av arriving. Is anyone else feeling as indecisive?! I would obviously love to get pg asap and, as we've been DTD, I suppose it's possible. But, if av doesn't arrive next week, and I get a bpn, I'll be stuck in that not nice limbo of not knowing when my cycle is going to sort it's self out. sigh...

Happy holidays ciwi!

MarathonMama · 11/06/2011 15:39

Anyone know where I can find a hash key on my apple notebook???

MarathonMama · 11/06/2011 15:38

TTC

Tokyotwist ttc #2 cycle 1 cd 71 ucl unknown
MissTinaTeaspoon ttc #2 cycle 4 cd 25 ucl 28
Stitchinline ttc#1 cycle 4 cd 15 ucl 33ish
Loup23 ttc#1 cycle 5 cd 16 ucl 33
Thefalconsmistress ttc#2 cd 7 ucl 35ish
Poppyjen ttc#2 cycle 1 post mc ucl ? (loooong and unpredictable)
Marathonmama ttc 2 cycle 2 post mmc cd 2 ucl 29-30

WTTC

CuttlefishDramas

Recent BFPs

Lily06 ttc#1 BFP 13/05/11
Piglet ttc#1 6+5 weeks
laylasmummy09 ttc#2 6+2

MarathonMama · 11/06/2011 15:36

Hello all! Do you mind if I also join you? Have been lured over here by MissGiraffe from the miscarriage threads.

I had a mmc on the 11th of May and an ERPC on the 13th. My AF arrived yesterday (so exactly 28 days post erpc) but I had some spotting a week before AF which, according to Dr Google, can apparently mean I'm still in "progesterone withdrawal" (any ideas what the implications of this are???).

I'm dying to get going on the TTC but the days seem to be dragging by, it's driving me mental!

Poppyjen - I can relate to your story, my dd is 18mo and I really wanted to have another one soon so that they're close in age.

Anyway, I will add my stats...

Lovely to meet you all waves

BlueCrane · 11/06/2011 14:32

Thanks hotcross DH's parents here and know the situation and have brought SO much food - I could barely fit it all in the freezer...but not a bad thing as means I don't need to cook much in the next week or so! I seem to be feeling a little bit better than I was first thing this morning but just very tired...but not bleeding anymore which seems a bit quick in comparison to everyone else Hmm going to wait until Thursday (a weeks after erpc) to check for bfp/bfn.

One thing that is bothering me is that I think they may have damaged a nerve in my hand when they put the line in to give me the general anesthetic as it was very very painful when they put it in and afterwards and excruciating when they took it out and now I have weird feelings running up into my fingers if I touch (even lightly) where the line went in...going to monitor but may need to go to the docs on Monday...in fact just noticed weird feeling in my hand as I type too...grrrr... Angry

hotcrossSES · 11/06/2011 12:38

Blue - sorry for those pesky hormones. Hope your visitors behave well and they help take the workload for a bit. Are they aware of what you are going through?

poppyjen - hello! Sorry you find yourself here but fingers crossed for sticky beans all round v soon.

ciwi - enjoy your hols! I've got an underactive thyroid too and am feeling much better on my new dose of 200mcg. Hopefully we're both settled on the right dose now and it does the trick!

whingey - I also have a 2yo and found it tough to begin with but this week has been much better. My DH doesn't really get what it's been like for me either. He doesn't think it's possible to lose so much blood and doesn't appreciate the hormonal ups and downs. I suppose I don't really understand exactly what it's like for him though. He's lost a baby too but out of the few friends that know, no one really checks how he is.

MissGiraffe - welcome to the thread. I'm pleased you're starting to feel ready to move forwards.

8 days since ERPC and bleeding has reduced to spotting but I still got a BFP this morning. How long does it usually take to get a BFN?

BlueCrane · 11/06/2011 10:47

Morning all

ciwi hope you have a great holiday!

poppyjen so Sad to see you here too but glad you're starting to feel more positive with TTC.

whingey I feel so out of control with my emotions since erpc on thursday - it's horrible! Was awful to DH yesterday, up one moment and so down the next and his parents are coming today and I just know i'm going to be a nightmare so not really looking forward to it! I just keep snapping at everything and can't seem to help it...reminds me of the awful pill they put me on just before I got married which turned me into a dragon and I had to swap onto a different one...here's hoping my hormones sort themselves out quickly Hmm

ciwi · 10/06/2011 20:34

Hi all, just a quickie because i need to pack for my hols!
manda they recommend low normal levels for ttc and mine were just on normal hence the increased dose. the doc was fine with increasing it one he knew we wanted to ttc and i was only on a childs dose anyway. am now on the lowest adult dose so still not much xxx
whingy you do a pg test as it confirms that the mc is complete and there is nothing left iykwim. The hospital should do it and it was on the leaflet i got but no one arranged for me to have one so i just checked myself xxx

Poppyjen · 10/06/2011 20:11

ok, stats list below - couldn't find one more recent than last thurs so please feel free to correct any mistakes/omissions... Blush

TTC

Tokyotwist ttc #2 cycle 1 cd 71 ucl unknown
MissTinaTeaspoon ttc #2 cycle 4 cd 25 ucl 28
Stitchinline ttc#1 cycle 4 cd 15 ucl 33ish
Loup23 ttc#1 cycle 5 cd 16 ucl 33
Thefalconsmistress ttc#2 cd 7 ucl 35ish
Poppyjen ttc#2 cycle 1 post mc ucl ? (loooong and unpredictable)

WTTC

CuttlefishDramas

Recent BFPs

Lily06 ttc#1 BFP 13/05/11
Piglet ttc#1 6+5 weeks
laylasmummy09 ttc#2 6+2

Poppyjen · 10/06/2011 20:04

Hi ladies, think I would like to jump on to this thread, although sorry I have to Sad

This sucks. Started mc on 28th May, they reckon 6 or 7 weeks (unsure about ov date) but when I got to the EPU the test was negative so I didn't need to have any other procedures etc. I thought before this happened that if it was early on I wouldn't feel so bad but I was so wrong.

It was the last day of our holiday in Greece, 1st proper one with DS who is 15 months. We had a lovely time then on the evening before we started our 2-day adventure back to the UK I started bleeding and by the next day it was clear what was happening. I felt like my world had ended.

Anyway, I have dusted myself off and here I am again, feeling more nervous this time though. CD14 today, no sign of ov yet (I am using Fertility Friend as I have crazy long PCOS cycles) but starting to feel positive again.

I haven't had chance to read all of the pages yet, but I am very sad to see some names I recognise from TTC buses such as BlueCrane - so sorry for your loss, and everyone else here

I'll add myself to the stats in a sec, my copy and paste hasn't worked...

whingeymacwhinger · 10/06/2011 19:53

HI there, may I gate crash?

I just found this thread today after lurking on the miscarriage thread and I'm so sorry about all your losses.

I found out about my missed miscarriage about 2.5 weeks ago and miscarried 2 weeks ago today. There seems to be a wealth of knowledge on here so I hope you don't mind if I pick your collective brains....

My miscarriage all happened very fast after it started. I started bleeding heavily on Thursday 26th May and had passed all but a 2 cm piece of tissue by 9am Friday morning. The tissue passed a couple of days later - was weird actually seeing something...

I'm still bleeding fairly heavily - bright red, clotty blood - this is normal, isn't it? Are blinding headaches, mood swings also normal. I'm being an absolutely horrible parent to my 2 year old at a time when I feel that I should be appreciating her not being impatient and annoyed!

Why does everyone talk about taking a pregnancy test when the bleeding stops (the hospital just discharged me without any advice/follow up)?

I'm finding the whole thing quite hard to handle. I'm not good at showing my emotions and I think I seem quite hard or over it or something. Instead of crying, the emotion comes out as anger or silence. MY DH has been good to a point, but I think the whole physical aspect (I lost a lot of blood and went into shock) seems to have passed him by. He just expects me to be better and I feel so tired and physically drained all the time.

Gosh sorry, going off on one now ... Just wanted to say hi and I'm sorry that so many people are going through this - it's shit....

BlueCrane · 10/06/2011 16:14

manda they used tablets rather than a pessary for me too...said it was needed because it was my first pregnancy and I hadn't started to bleed at all yet and they were worried about causing cervical trauma if they just went in without trying to get it to open itself a bit first! Oh the joys of being female eh! Shock

Hmm the posts about how/when you have bled have made me think that I need to start a little diary to keep a track of the next few weeks otherwise I'm not going to have a clue where I'm at!

Just booked flights to Cork, Ireland for our long weekend in July and now trying to sort out a B+B - keeping me busy for the mo though which is good! Staying pretty close to the sofa today Smile

ciwi and manda glad you're pretty much back to TTC!

whatsoever from what the others have said it sounds as though your body's still sorting itself out...what a pain!

MandaHugNKiss · 10/06/2011 15:44

Glad everything went well blue and that you're being cared for.

I didn't have a cervix softening pessary - unless that's why they inserted the first three cytotec internally? But they were tablets and not a pessary (the following 2x2 at three hourly intervals were oral).

whatsoever I had 2 days of spotting followed by 18 day light... then 10 days later what appeared to be a light AF (and the timing was right for when they said it would turn up). But the fact there was only ten days between my bleeding stopping and the 'af' means there wasnt enough time for it to be a true hormonal cycle. 33 days later my 'true' af turned up, shockingly heavy and painful... and has just waned away to spotting today. I am pretty sure I did not O for either of those cycles (I get several signs and they were all mia) so finers crossed that this will be my 'getting back to normal' cycle where I do O as we are officially ttc from now.

Where did you stay in the Lakes? I've spent lots of time there as had several members of my maternal family living there.

Good news the bloods are headed in the right direction ciwi. Do you really think your dose needs upping or does your body just need a little more time to adjust? My uncles wife had trouble with her thyroid (overactive) and I now they tweaked her meds for some time before she went ahead ttc.

whatsoever · 10/06/2011 12:20

Ah, the cervix-softening pessary, I had forgotten that joy. Reminded me of an "expereince" in a tent age 15 with a boy who didn't know what he was doing and just decided to rummage around....not pleasant, but no lasting harm done Blush

Blue glad you are being looked after by DH.

Definitely not my period yet - too light and it's still old blood I think.

ciwi · 10/06/2011 12:02

watsoever i think you can have all sorts of weird bleeding after a mc. I had medical management then about 4 and a half weeks later had a light af (still heavy enough for me to think it was a real one) then 2 weeks after that i had a heavy af and i think i ov'd 2 weeks after that. just waiting for the witch to show now and i would have had my 1st proper cycle. think we are going to start ttc after that. you may not ov till you have had a proper af afterwards i dont think i did x
blue glad it all went ok for you, its never going to be a good experience but at least its over with now. you should relax and be pampered all weekend xxx
well i got my bloods today and my thyroid levels are nearly normal again, i persuaded them to up my dose though because i want them completely normal so they have and i reckon in 2 weeks the levels will be good enough to ttc again!

BlueCrane · 10/06/2011 11:19

Morning all, well all went well yesterday despite the 3 hour wait and them having to insert a tablet (sorry TMI) to soften my cervix before I went in which wasn't the most pleasant! All the nursing staff were lovely and gave me some nice strong painkillers, a cup of tea and a scone with jam when I came round!! DH has been a star looking after me and the pain and bleeding seem to be lessening this morning, will see what the next few days bring. The sister gave me a sick note signing me off next week which takes the pressure off but will see how I feel Monday/Tuesday.

whatsoever sorry to hear you've started bleeding again - what a pain! I take it there's no chance it could be your first period and it's just come early? Have you done a test to see if you're getting a bfn yet?

bats I know my BIL and wife did preconception genetic counselling so I don't know if that's what they're suggestion?

DH's parents are coming to visit tomorrow and bringing lots of yummy meals to keep us going for the next few days Smile

whatsoever · 10/06/2011 10:45

Blue hope all went well the with ERPC yesterday.

Pie hope you are nearly done....

I've not been on for a bit so lots of catching up to do for me. It's 17 days since my ERPC now. This time last week, DH and I were talking about starting TTC again at the 14 day mark if everything seemed OK, as the bleeding and discomfort had stopped. Unfortunately, the bleeding started again at the weekend and has carried on so that has put paid to that. No pain and it is light but wondering at what point I should bother going to the doctors? I don't have any symptoms of infection and the histology results from the ERPC were normal so I'm not sure what else they could check for.

Hopefully it will stop soon, and DH and I will actually be TTC not just thinking about it! In more positive news, we had a nice few days in the Lakes - even if no bonking was involved Smile

BatsInTheSnowglobe · 09/06/2011 18:07

Haven't caught up yet but hope everything goes well today and you're ok Blue, thinking of you.

Has anyone had preconception counseling? if so what is it? My GP's nurse phoned me today to book an appointment for it. When i asked what it was, admitted i didn't understand, she simple said in a you're a thicko voice it's preconception counseling. Figured it's free so why not! The appointment is with my GP. Is it talking about health and poss tests they can do on me or something else?

Off to read through everything i've missed!

MandaHugNKiss · 09/06/2011 17:17

THinking of you blue. I found the time in the hospital... strange. It was very much an 'in a bubble' type feeling - it was nice to be in competent, caring hands which somehow helped.

ciwi · 09/06/2011 14:32

blue hope things go ok for you today and it is all over with as quickly as possible xxx

BlueCrane · 09/06/2011 10:37

Morning all and welcome missgiraffe

pie really hope you've nearly finished, sounds like a really rough 4 weeks Sad hope the holiday provides a good break and time to relax and start to recover. Enjoy the hairdressers too!!

manda how are you feeling today?

Well, I'm off to the hospital in an hour for my ERPC, bag packed and trying not to think about it if I'm honest. Will be pleased to have got this bit over with though so we can start thinking about moving forward, I just feel as though we've 'wasted' the last 2-3 months with all of this, very frustrating!

Missgiraffe1 · 09/06/2011 08:45

Hi Ladies,

Feel it's about time to jump on here now. Sorry for everyone's MC experiences and losses. Wish we didn't have to be on here, but I take great comfort in being able to openly share stuff with people who actually know what it's like. Well-meaning friends (with no experience of MC) in RL just don't get it.

Had ERPC on 16th May after MMC. it was obviously devastating, and still hurts, but I feel ready to move on from the miscarriage threads (sort of feel staying on there is holding me back a bit). This seems to be the positive, forward-thinking place to be! Smile

Recognise several names from previous threads (wave to Bluecrane Shell* Bats Hotcross whatsoever). Haven't managed to read right through from beginning yet (I start work at 8.30am ooops!), but Hi to everyone else and best of best of luck to everyone on this crazy journey!