Freak out room for those newly updiffed after mc - Part VI

How are you Dachs still thinking of you btw, sorry I post late as during the day I have my i phone

Just popping in to say hello to dachs

Would you like some post? We could all start sending cards/letters/parcels of cake to the hospital. I still feel positive for you and the pups. I really hope you don't have to move but if you do it looks like the ladies on here have lots of info. Sadly my knowledge stretches only to the RVI newcastle [useless emoticon]

Much love xx Were there any scan dudes today? X

Sorry, just wanted to say Dachs I hope my last posts didn't sound too interfering and I don't want to make what is already a tough decision for you even harder. I was just trying to help. Tell me to get lost if you don't want SIL's opinion though, I won't be offended!

I gather it's for those that have sadly mc'd while being on this thread?

I 'know' ladybee from the RMC thread.

Coconuts don't worry about, I wanted to add myself in and spotted it at the same time.

Lily - Was I meant to keep that little bit added on the bottom? Sorry I missed it off

Just to second Knitter's friend. I did a tour of St Mary's when I was pg with DD but chose UCH on the basis wards were brand new and therefore cleaner.

Dachs Just trying to catch up on the news and wanted to say I'm thinking of you. I had DD at UCH in Feb 2009, three months after the new building opened so obviously it was v clean and I found the care good. I was discharged the same day but then re-admitted five days later as we had feeding issues and ended up in a private room for three further nights. The care in the post-natal ward was excellent then and the staff were absolutely lovely. I know that they have a brilliant reputation for neo-nates (one of best in the country, iirc) but I'm afraid I don't have much experience of the gynae ward (other than an ERPC last Aug but even then I couldn't fault them). I will hopefully be going back there if this pg gets that far.

My SIL is a paedeatrician currently based at the Homerton but she has worked in various London neo-nate wards as part of her training. I've just sent her a text to ask her opinion on UCH versus St Mary's (she knows about your situation as I was chatting to her about earlier in the week.) As soon as I get a reply I'll let you know xx Big hugs to you, DH, Alexander and Felicia x

Tiggersreturn (TTT) 21+2 EDD 26/09/11
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Thinking of.... ladybee; digi; A&R; barbie; MumTum; Knitter, Kat2504

dacha I think I'd go for st Marys then, if doc thinks both ok then you'll get more time each day with DH at st Marys. Colleague of mine used them and said they were fab (although he was private so not sure how different that would be)

Dachs I hope you don't mind but I just asked someone I work with your St Marys'/UCH question. The person is a Pediatrician and she trained at UCH and worked at St Mary's... Her view is that both are great in terms of care but that UCH is a bit cleaner. Obviously the best situations would be that you don't have to move... but I hope that info helps...

Lara etc... thanks for the offer of staying around to chat... without being weird I'll probably not generally post here in many ways it's quite a strong reminder of where I could/should have been. Posting for Dachs is a (very) special case. I do lurk and keep on top of all your news though... and I appreciate that there is a bean bag reserved for me ... soon... soon... soon...

Hi Dachs

I'm with St Mary's and had ds there as well. I tried UCH for the mc which was a bit of a disaster on many fronts but I never got near neonatal so can't comment on that. My friend had her dd at UCH and the advantage there was that they had a HDU where you could stay with the baby if they didn't need full neonatal but it sounds rather more likely that you'd need full SCBU than a half way house.

Both are well reputed London teaching hospitals.

I remember magic posting about this forum www.kanalen.org/prom/preemie.php - maybe you'd be better off posting on their list as they'll have more direct expertise on this? Also try putting a post in the childbirth/pregnancy forum here.

Good luck with your very difficult decision. I'm not sure if you've mentioned what hospital you are in now but if it's completely private I would recommend switching to an NHS hospital in any event, insurance issues aside. The best facilities in terms of care are found in the NHS not private hospitals.

Sorry I also just want to say thank you to everyone wishing me well today x

Dachs so glad they're hanging in there, the waiting must be agony but every day that goes by without a change there is more chance of things turning out well. I'm not surprised you're feeling down anyone would feel the same if they were going through what you are, keep on chatting on here, at least it is something to do while you rest. x

Coconuts you've done so well to get this far and everything will be fine. This time tomorrow you will fee so much more confident.

Collie I can totally understand where you DH is coming from but am sure he will slowly come to terms with what is happening. We all know how painful it is to lose a baby and I think it's just a way of protecting yourself. I would love to stay at home and hide from everything until I actually have a baby in my arms. I waited until I was 15 weeks last time, I had a NT result of 1:50,000 (best possible outcome) and found out 5 days later that our baby had died (around the same time that we told people) I obviously know that telling people didn't cause the mc but it does make it very scary to think of ever telling anyone.

Harrassed I didn't have a NT scan with either of my 2DD, never even thought about it and they are just perfect.

Scan went well, beanie wriggling around and kicking arms and legs, the relief was so strong couldn't help but cry when we came out of the scan room. I seem to be getting worse each week! Consultant also asked me about NT scan and signed me up for one within the next couple of weeks which seemed rather quick as I am only 9 weeks. Last time I paid privately (and had to wait four days for results btw) but now they are offering this on the NHS so thought I should just put the wheels in motion and get as much mentallig done and over with as quickly as possible.

hugs dachs

Pink said what I was thinking.... can the pups not be transferred to better neo natal facilities? Or you if things start to happen? I know it's not ideal... I'd be inclined to be led by your consultant. Sodding Bupa......

I think he thinks either would be fine and that the people are ok at both. I got the sense that he thinks the people at St Mary's are better but that the neo- natal at UCH is theoretically better (although I got the sense that he thinks the one at St Mary's is fine)

dacha does your doc have a view on which hospital has lower infection rates and better consultants? Can you go to st Marys and then use someone else's neo natal unit?

xpost - to add, Dachs - the fact that the situation hasn't changed since Mon surely can only be positive.

Dachs - my sister is 25 weeks pg and is extremely happy with the facilities at UCH. Her position obviously isn't the same as yours but she has had a fairly complicated pg. In fact, from everything she's told me, it seems far better there than St Georges (where I am). The care seems more personalised and there has been much more hand-holding whereas I am simply a hospital number (and they even get that wrong half the time).

He also said that on Monday he would have said it would all be over in a week, but that he'd say the same today, so the situation is maintaining itself and might keep ticking over. But that the waters on the first twin will go at some point and then there are a few possibilities of what might happen - most of them negative. However, it is possible that the baby might just die and dry out, leaving the other twin ok in its sac, or that it might carry on growing, just not as well as in a sac. 99.9999% likely to trigger labour though

..or....Dachs....waiting for stuff NOT to happen. If they really thought that was it and there was no chance of it being ok they would set things in motion. Whilst you are being left to wait, there is def still a chance for those two little pups.

Sending you a big hug...as Orange says, every day is another day the three of you have overcome...

xx

Anyone got any experience of UCH or St Mary's paddington? I'll prob be transferring to one of those if the insurance co carry on bring difficult or if I get as far as 23 weeks. Apparently UCH has a better neo-natal unit as St Mary's has just been downgraded, but St Mary's has a better gynae ward, which is where I would be transferring to. St Mary's would be more convenient travel wise for DH as we commute into Paddington but if UCH has a better neo-natal unit it might be the better place to be. Thoughts? Of course, the chances of making it to 23 weeks are very slim. Doc doesn't work for either of them as his NHS work is done at the Homerton in Hackney, but he said he's going to come visit me if I get transferred anyway.