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Freak out room for those newly updiffed after mc - Part V

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MummyAbroad · 13/04/2011 13:29

Just found out you are pregnant after a previous miscarriage? There is plenty of support, hand holding and problem-shared-problem-halved going on over here. All welcome to join in.

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Ninunina · 14/04/2011 18:31

blackkat glad you managed to calm down. Hopefully you'll wake up to no more cm in the morning. Wishing you all the best for tomorrow with your dad.
I agree that you need to take care of yourself and slow down.

I'm killing some time in the office before meeting some friends. I'm trying to decide if I should tell them or wait till 12 week scan. They know about mc and are always on the lookout for news, so they might guess when they see my bigger than usual belly.

I'm also trying to decide if I should do the nuchal scan. I wanted to do it, but am having second thoughts. I don't think I would terminate, so what's the point on doing it other than being prepared? I would want to know about other irregularities though, so may do it.

DH thinks we should do it, but is also more likely to want a termination.

cep · 14/04/2011 17:59

i think it is quite common to get varying colours during first few weeks, as long as it's not bright red with pain, they say not to worry. I know that's imposible though. Hope tomorrow goes well, will be thinking of you.

Blackkat · 14/04/2011 17:52

cep sorry 6+3 or 4

Blackkat · 14/04/2011 17:48

managed to calm down, getting off the minging tube helped. Have eaten chocolate and drunk tea and decided to get myself back to yorkshire rather than go to epu in london though thank you for all your advice. Will have early night and pop to my epu if not stopped in the am. I'm convinced rushing round work and london yest and today is to blame so need to slow down. Sorry again for me me post will read properly when home and be less selfish. Thanks all x x

MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 17:00

BlackKat pink goo can just be from cervical erosion, and nothing to worry about. Do whatever you can/need to, to reduce your worry and stress levels though. Getting some kind of reassurance from a doctor/scan really helps and is proven in studies to reduce mc rates overall. Take care xxx

Izzy combined bloods (quad) + nuchal brings accuracy level to 98%. All NHS hospitals do things differently, some dont even offer nuchals. The different types of blood tests on offer are:
double
triple
quad (best)

You would think that each one has more things to test for than the last, but it isnt really. Some of these tests have to be done at different times in pregnancy from others.

The quad tests for 4 different things:
www.americanpregnancy.org/prenataltesting/quadscreen.html

You can ask which bloods test is being done and what the accuracy rate is for the test + nuchal scan.

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Wombat33 · 14/04/2011 16:41

Blackkat, from the St Thomas' website: If you are under 18 weeks gestation, please contact or visit the emergency gynaecology unit, 8th floor, St Thomas' Hospital. This offers a walk-in service. Tel: 020 7188 0864.

It's open until 7pm this evening, or after that you can go via the A&E dept.

Wombat33 · 14/04/2011 16:36

Blackkat it can be totally normal and no cause for alarm, especially as you have no cramps. That said, if you're worrieid then get yourself checked-out for some reassurance. I went to the walk-in clinic at St Thomas' on Tuesday (they have two - one for women less than 18 weeks and one for those 18 weeks and over - on the 7th and 8th floors (I think) of the North Wing) and they were good. Alternatively you could head home to your own hospital if you know they are going to be 'open' by the time you get there. Try not to worry too much xxx

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cep · 14/04/2011 16:26

blackkat remind me what stage you're at now?

LaraMi · 14/04/2011 16:08

Where abouts in London are you Blackkat?? Guys and St Thomas' (near Waterloo) has a 24 hour walk in EPU if you're really worried.... Although I am convinced you have no need to be. xx

Blackkat · 14/04/2011 16:03

ok. Sorry for me post. Pink goo, hot, sweaty in london miles away from home, bloody work, and not sure what to do. No cramps, this is normal right! Sorry for me me post, just frightened and need not to be as i'm on taking dad to hosp first thing tomorrow, just want it all to stop Sad

mattsmama · 14/04/2011 15:37

Hi Ladies - not been on a for a bit - been feeling pretty rubbish. Fair old bit of sickness now and feeling knackered plus bunged up stuffy nose. My scan cheered me up though Smile

Wombat - "chewing my nails to the next scan" sums it up well! My next scan will be 27 April!

Such a shame about knitter . Keep thinking about her. Think it has knocked us all a bit sideways. I'll be even more terrified about the nuchal scan now - there is just always something to worry about all the time! No wonder we all feel so DRAINED and keep having nightmares.

Velvet as far as I am aware the nuchal scan combined with the blood tests gives a more accurate result. Our local NHS hospital has started offering the scan with blood tests but apparently they don't do as "in depth" blood tests as the local private centre does. Apparently they use different blood markers or something? Maybe they will/offer discuss blood tests with you at the scan?

Cravings are changing all the time - as soon as I have had what I have craved the thought of eating it again makes me want to hurl - apart from Ribena - can't get enough of the stuff and ribena ice lollies!

MummyA Really don't know what to suggest - it must be very frustrating for you and worrying. Makes you wonder how women coped before the days of scans and all the tests that we have today. I hope you get the answers you are looking for. x

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 14/04/2011 15:29

velvet if I get as far as 12 weeks

Velvetcu · 14/04/2011 15:17

I'm not having bloods done at my private nuchal scan tomorrow as far as I know. Should I be (maybe they just havent mentioned it)? I feel so sick with worry about it all. I'm going to visit my nan in Spain on Sunday and hopefully I'll just be able to relax a bit.

I'm also not sleeping very well - combo of nightmares (the bearded lab tech lady from work was trying to remove my baby with a plunger last night!) and needing to pee.

Sorry that you are having these worries mummya

(((hugs))) to everyone who needs them today

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 14/04/2011 14:48

cep ((hugs)) coming your way x

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 14/04/2011 14:47

Hmmm...it's a tricky one. I hope you manage to find somewhere that'll do all the tests. You kind of forget how comparatively easy we have it here. However I'm sure the online calculations are doable...

Not sure what to suggest if you don't trust the dr though Sad. I guess you'll have to take a bit of a leap of faith?

I can understand the need for a diagnostic test if you were to come up high risk so agree trying to find someone experienced in cvs just in case might reassure you in the sense that at least you'd know you had that option...can you ask them their mc rates for cvs? In the uk they have to give you that info if you ask. [irrelevant emoticon]

MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 14:45

Hi Lara Yes, its true, I am really worried about abnormalities now after hearing Knitters news. I think maybe its because I have had amnio before and they gave me lots of counselling and asked me to make a decision about what I would do with different results scenarios, so I know already that if there were any kind of abnormalities I would terminate. I am 10+6 today and so only 1 day off being able to do screening tests. I really wish I was in the UK now and could just book a private appointment and get tested ASAP!

cep Hug for you. Bad feelings and worry are a symptom of having had an mc in the past. It doesnt mean you will have another one. Its just a horrible burden we all have after the experiences we have been through. I hope it doesnt last. xx

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MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 14:40

sorry thats THURSDAYS list

Nickster 23+4 EDD 7/8/11
Orange 19+4 EDD 4/9/11 next scan 20/4/11
Wombat33 18+5 EDD 10/09/11 next scan 27/4/11
Daisybell 18+0 EDD 14/09/11
Pinkfondantfancy 16+3 EDD 25/09/11
Tiggersreturn (TTT) 16+2 EDD 26/09/11 next scan 10/5/11
mamapower 16+1 EDD 28/9/11
DoubleDiffedDachs 15+1 EDD 5/10/11 next scan 18/5/11
Emoo 14+6 EDD 7/10/11 next scan 19/5/11
Lovemysleep 14+2 EDD 11/10/11
Tunnocksteacake 12+3 EDD 24/10/11 next scan 20/04/11
Onions 12+0 EDD 27/10/11 First Scan 20/04/11!
Velvetcu 11+6 EDD 30/10/11
IreneHeron 11+3 EDD 26/10/11
MummyAbroad 10+6 EDD 4/11/11
CEP 10+5 EDD 5/11/11
Hils74 10+1 EDD 8/11/11
Katherine2008 9+6 EDD 11/11/11 next scan 3/5/11
Haffertee 9+4 EDD 14/11/11
delilahbelle 9+0 EDD 22/11/11
Mattsmama 9+0 EDD 17/11/11
Ninunina: 8+3 EDD 21/11/11 next scan 12/5/2011
wombatinwaiting: 8+0 EDD 26/11/11 first scan on 17/04/11
Collie 7+6 EDD 25/11/11
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy 7+5 EDD 26/11/11 first scan 19/4/11
LaraMi 6+6 EDD 2/12/11 Next scan - 18/05/11

Thinking of.... hairy; ladybee; digi; A&R; barbie; harassed; MumTum; Knitter

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MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 14:37

Wednesday's list

Nickster 23+4 EDD 7/8/11
Orange 19+4 EDD 4/9/11 next scan 20/4/11
Wombat33 18+5 EDD 10/09/11 next scan 27/4/11
Daisybell 18+0 EDD 14/09/11
Pinkfondantfancy 16+3 EDD 25/09/11
Tiggersreturn (TTT) 16+2 EDD 26/09/11 next scan 10/5/11
mamapower 16+1 EDD 28/9/11
DoubleDiffedDachs 15+1 EDD 5/10/11 next scan 18/5/11
Emoo 14+6 EDD 7/10/11 next scan 19/5/11
Lovemysleep 14+2 EDD 11/10/11
Tunnocksteacake 12+3 EDD 24/10/11 next scan 20/04/11
Onions 12+0 EDD 27/10/11 First Scan 20/04/11!
Velvetcu 11+6 EDD 30/10/11
IreneHeron 11+3 EDD 26/10/11
MummyAbroad 10+6 EDD 4/11/11
CEP 10+5 EDD 5/11/11
Hils74 10+1 EDD 8/11/11
Katherine2008 9+6 EDD 11/11/11 next scan 3/5/11
Haffertee 9+4 EDD 14/11/11
delilahbelle 9+0 EDD 22/11/11
Mattsmama 9+0 EDD 17/11/11
Ninunina: 8+3 EDD 21/11/11 next scan 12/5/2011
wombatinwaiting: 8+0 EDD 26/11/11 first scan on 17/04/11
Collie 7+6 EDD 25/11/11
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy 7+5 EDD 26/11/11 first scan 19/4/11
LaraMi 6+6 EDD 2/12/11 Next scan - 18/05/11

Thinking of.... hairy; ladybee; digi; A&R; barbie; harassed; MumTum; Knitter

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MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 14:34

mmmmmmm

thanks Izzy I have only asked one doctor about bloods so far and he didnt have much of a clue about them. I can phone my local laboratory (who did my HCG's for me) and ask them, I think I have gleened from the internet which ones are needed and also found a program online which does the overall calculation for you. (feel very Confused about using something that I have cobbled together myself of the internet!) This might sound wierd but the other thing that worries me is that I might not be able to trust what the doctors say about the nuchal scan. Because they are getting paid lots, and have no solution to offer if its bad news, I really feel that they wont have a vested interested in being accurate, I think they are more likely to spin it a bit and tell you what you want to hear. I totally agree about CVS risk, but am still hoping I can find an experienced person to do it, so that I can get a clear answer. I had amnio with DS (high blood results, scan too late to do nuchal) and although it was scary, it was really good after knowing all was well. Having a pregnancy without a diagnostic test feels daunting, but I guess that is actually the norm for millions of women.

Your DS is very astute! My DS has started kissing my tummy now and telling me he has a "friend" in there Smile. Its lovely, last pregnancy he was a year younger and really oblivious. For me nausea was totally related to physical exertion, more rest = less nausea. Perhaps the journey into work itself makes you feel more sick?

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cep · 14/04/2011 14:32

knitter thinking of you lots today, hope you're ok.

lara i had a couple really horrile mc dreams and some just bizarre ones.

i need someone to hit me with a fish, or two, or the whole bloody counter. I keep seeing single magpies, some even off in the distance so can't actually see if it's on it's own or not. But keep thinking that's it, it's officially doomed now. I keep imagining being in the scan and being told the bad news again. I've had no blood since last thursday,so no real reason for thinking all over i just can't shake the feeling. Last time i was 11+5 when i found out it had died (although it died at 7 weeks) so i'm wondering if because that's coming round again that's giving me the bad feelings. i really hope i get my scan soon.

LaraMi · 14/04/2011 14:31

MummyA - makes sense to look into it, but PLEASE tell me you're not finding yoursef something ELSE to worry about, now that the stress of your scan is over.

I have managed to convince myself I have to not be PG... (on account of lack of symptoms). However, that said, am absolutely shattered. Today am working from home and have only left the bed to eat / use the bathroom Blush. For me that is exceptionally abnormal - I am normally extremely active and up at the crack of dawn rushing around. I even fell asleep at 11am this morning, laptop on duvet... oops...

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 14/04/2011 14:20

not an ex-pat obviously but thought I'd answer...it seems odd that private drs will do the scan but don't do the bloods; I would ring round and double-check that. I can see the CVS might be a problem (fwiw personally I wouldn't want it done by someone who didn't routinely do them because I understand mc rates can vary quite a lot and wouldn't want to take an increased risk of mc a healthy baby). However if you have the nuchal scan and bloods and they come back ok you won't need to worry about that bit.

Not very helpful I know but if I were you I would try and find someone to do the nuchal + bloods and then look at my options when I got the results from that.

Bit of a weird day today...having felt quite nauseous over the last week or so I'm feeling pretty good today - so naturally I am having a slight . However it has occurred to me that I would usually be at work at this time, and haven't noticed any nausea at work, so I'm wondering if it's just been coming on in the early evening and I'm just thinking about it more today?

oh and DS (7.5) patted my tummy today and asked me if I was PG Hmm. I fibbed of course, but really, how do they know?!!

MummyAbroad · 14/04/2011 13:57

hello ladies,

I have also been having disturbed sleep - keep thinking about DS's birth, having weird dreams and also getting up to pee. I am going to treat myself to a big pregnancy pillow soon. I didnt have one with DS and am hoping it will make a big difference.

I am starting to panic about screening and diagnostic tests now. They are not routinely offered here in Costa Rica because terminations are illegal, so they dont want to give people bad news and then not have any options of what to do about it. I would like to get tested and then if there was a problem, get on a plane very quickly. Many private doctors will do the nuchal scan and amnio but I havent found out where or if I can get the bloods done or CVS if I need/want it. CVS is done early than amnio (12 weeks vs 16 weeks) so that would be much better but then again I dont really want to do it with a doctor who hardly ever performs them because nobody else does them here! Have been putting off doing more research because it all seems so scary, but I am going to make a bigger effort today and have a ring around. Are there any other ex-pats on the thread in a similar quandry?

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tiggersreturn · 14/04/2011 13:11

Wombat - maybe you've been reading too much news? I have a phobia of crocodiles so any dream with them in is a really bad nightmare.

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