Page 26 | Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 7

Italiangreyhound · 2011-04-13T00:23:33+00:00

Hi ladies *Pumplinjoy*, *Shirley*, *Lissy*, *Keziah*, *Womanly*,*Val*, Late*, *monkeybumsmum*, *tametortie* and *Rowing* - hugs to you all. *woowa* of course you can join us. *Choco* and *Horton* and *londonlottie* do you still look in on us? Can you all find us?

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Italiangreyhound · 12/05/2011 00:16

lucy so sorry your consultant was not very helpful.

lucy if there comes another time and you feel he is not giving you the attention you need please try and remember this anger and allow it to enable you to engage him in some direct conversation. I think if he gets you angry again you just be a bit more pushy, asking questions etc, it is very annoying that you are paying so much and obviously need answers but maybe at the moment he could not give them! I do feel the nurses are sometimes more approachable.

Bucksfizz, Woowa, Rowing, Keziah and all - all the best.

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woowa · 11/05/2011 19:45

no scan today, just bloods and picking up more needles as I'm about to run out. And the HcG for the fridge............ Scan on friday, then I reckon they'll book me in either for monday or wednesday. Starting to lose concentration on everything else now...

lucy sorry you had a rubbish appointment. I have found nurses to be the best people to get information out of (and cry with :) ) and they feel a lot more sympathetic. Hope the acupuncture works for you.

italian sorry about the car, glad you're ok though. It is hard to drive when tired, and especially with lots on your mind at the moment.

Well, off to waste my life away, i just want it to be monday...

lucylookout · 11/05/2011 19:39

Italian how upsetting for you that you had an accident and thank goodness that no one was hurt. These things can just happen in a split second, and it really is a good reminder to pay attention to what you're doing and take care (I mean, not just you, everyone, crossing the road, cooking, all of those potentially dangerous things we do on auto pilot a lot of the time). I think it might be a good thing to have a hol before your treatment starts, as hopefully you'll be starting it in a state of extreme health and relaxation!
Womanly, has af arrived yet? What drugs are you on for your IUI? I had letrozole for days 2 - 6, followed by a few days of Gonal F (that's the stage I'm at now) followed by my trigger shot, possibly tomorrow or Friday. How many eggs did you get first time round?
Woowa how exciting about egg collection, how did you get on at your scan today? Fingers crossed all's going to plan.
How's your mum keziah?
Waves to rowing over in the czech republic, hope it's going well!
I'm still feeling a bit gutted about yesterday, but I think I felt worse because the consultant didn't seem to care particularly and not only did he not give me any reassurances, he also didn't even give me any information when I asked him questions. In fact he spent most of the time reading my notes and filling in forms, and I really thought he could have prepared himself a little by doing that before I went in. It's not exactly cheap to start with, so I came away feeling very short changed and disappointed.
So, today I had a last minute acupuncture session to 'work on my lining'. I do wonder what my life has come to at times. I'm back in tomorrow for another scan to see how my solitary big egg is doing, and whether the lining has caught up. That is if I haven't ovulated naturally by then, which he seemed to think was a possibility as he asked me to do OPKs a couple of times a day. Good grief, I'm on day 8, what's my body thinking of?? Is this the result of the drugs, or is this an underlying problem that could be part of the reason why I haven't got preg so far? If my egg doesn't crack (so to speak) IUI is scheduled for Saturday morning.

Fingers crossed for everyone x

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Italiangreyhound · 10/05/2011 21:50

Lucy so sorry, hope whatever happens works out well for you, even if now seems not very good, may it work out!

Woowa yes, they are all precious. All the very best for the egg collection and the day/date. YES I always try and over think it and wonder and it actually seems to just work out. Hope it will for you too.

Woomanly really hope it will all work out for you. Hugs

I had a car accident today.

It was totally my fault.

Thankfully, and amazingly, no one was hurt. I was a bit shaken up and our car is very much the worse for wear and might even be a write off! But praise God because I really was not injured! It has made me really, REALLY think about road safety, driving slowly, paying attention etc and also making sure I am not too tired when I drive. I don't think that was the case today but it so easily could have been on another occasion.

So, I am just glad to be alive and not to have caused anyone else injury.

I really feel it must serve as a warning to me about road safety.

Drive safely ladies!

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woowa · 10/05/2011 19:40

italian thanks for sharing about your embie pics - i think that's lovely that you remember them that way. I'm really sad about the one of ours that didn't make it. DS was a twin just for a few days I guess. We'll never know what happened but I know God is taking care of that little one.

it's an interesting point about the ones that just stop growing - no-one ever says they have died, just that they aren't growing. I always think of them as having died, very sadly, but I can't understand why the term "stopped growing" is used. Perhaps the doctors don't see them as "alive" at just a few days old? Sorry to ask big questions about embryos, i just think each one is SO precious... our hospital was very kind and allowed the less normal looking ones an extra 3 days to see what they would do but they "stopped growing". I'm praying and praying that our egg collection will be on a day which means the hospital staff will be in 5 days later so that they can do the same this time. Even if we have to pay them to do it, I guess (last time was NHS funded). Egg collection is NEXT WEEK. eek. Back in for bloods tomorrow, then friday, and I guess on friday they'll tell me if it's going to be monday or wednesday. I'm both very excited and a bit terrified. Is anyone else at this point at the moment?

love to all xx

lucylookout · 10/05/2011 13:06

despite drugs I only have one egg, that's bigger than it should be with lining too thin. Not sure if IUI will even happen this month. Peed off

womanlytales · 10/05/2011 12:31

Thinking of you nook hope you are progressing well along.. :)

womanlytales · 10/05/2011 12:30

Good news Italian Hope the days go faster for you. I am waiting for AF to start my second cycle of IUI. The docs want to try everything the same as the first time..so will be on 75ml of the injections.. Have had a bit of a rough week -- IE, my body is very confused and not sure when to get going with AF. Did the test of CD 32, it was negative so at least that's crossed out. Have had 41 day cycles this past year..so hopefully AF will be here by then..which is this weekend. It's just a rotten week to be in where you know you are not pregnant but AF isn't here..and it means facing up to all the confused broken bits inside... BAH!

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Italiangreyhound · 09/05/2011 23:04

Well we are at the top of the list but need to wait a bit now as our holiday is in the way! It is all very well to think sod the holiday (I kind of do) but now it is almost here I can wait. It gives me a few more weeks to get in shape so June has turned into August. So there we go! Feel good.

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Italiangreyhound · 09/05/2011 22:49

Hi all

vallinnapod fab,m how wonderful. Congratulations and keep well.

Rowing, I always over pack, I would take a book, a notepad and pen - in case I need o do an impromptu interview for a magazine (ha ha), pants and socks (3 pairs of each), trousers (2 pairs) tops (2 or 3) plus a jacket, sun glasses, camera, phone, make up, make up remover, and not forgetting deoerant, tooth brush and toothpaste (you will be meeting your embies for the first time so smell nice)!

Keziahhopes the New ID course was fab, it was so brilliant and I am really looking forward to next week.

Updated list ?

BB 42, 1 DS aged 4, unexplained fertility - problems with embryos sticking, 2 failed IVFs, this is last cycle
Italiangreyhound 46, DD aged 6 (from IUI), MC 2006, IUI/failed IVF, awaiting IVF donor eggs May 2011
KeziahHopes 36, no children, male factors and testing for immue issues, failed Ist ICSI March 2011, no frosties.Waiting to see consultant in July.
Lateatwork 40, DD aged 2.5 3 MC, frozen eggs 2006, IVF at ARGC twins due October (using fresh ingredients...)
LissySilver 36 (almost 37) DH is T4 paraplegic, so IVF a must. 1st cycle May 2010 successful, miscarried at 8 weeks. Cone biopsy following an ERPC. Second cycle Oct. 2010 unsuccessful. Starting at ARGC next week!
Lucy Lookout 39, DS aged 3.5, low ovarian reserve, DH has high abnormaility rate, 20 week termination Feb 10, 8 week mc June 2010, about to start IUI cycle. ARGC appt in July.
Monkeybumsmum 35, DS aged 4, 2 MC's 2008, 2nd trim. loss 2010, failed cycle IUI 4/11, 2nd cycle about to start.
Nooknook 32, low ovarian reserve and thyroid issues, on 1st IVF cycle.
Tametortie 30, 1 dd with previous partner, unexplained fertility, TTC 4 years- 1 mmc in may 2008, currently egg sharing at crm in Coventry.
WomanlyTales 35, PCOS, Clomid resistant, 1st cycle IUI failed, Waiting for next steps
Woowa, 32, DH is C5/6 incomplete tetraplegic, IVF with ICSI only possibility. DD 14 months from 1st cycle, now onto second cycle...

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lucylookout · 09/05/2011 22:00

Congratulations vanilla, it's great to hear success stories x

Keziahhopes · 09/05/2011 19:17

Oh what lovely news vanilla glad all is going well.

vallinnapod · 09/05/2011 18:55

Hey ladies!

((hugs to all those I know, and don't ))

Well, 23 weeks here. We recently found out that bub is a boy . I am hoping to relax a bit now as all scans are done. He appears healthy and is a real wriggler I am still pretty small, bump-wise despite being 5 months pregnant

Any way - huge luck and sticky thoughts to all those mid-cycle

x

lucylookout · 09/05/2011 17:59

I'd take two pairs of shoes; a pair of comfy trainer/walking shoes and a pair of flip flop/ sandals. I'd wear a pair of trousers and maybe pack a pair (depends on how dark in colour the ones you're wearing are ), and a couple of tops. How exciting, it feels like you're off on an adventure!
I'm going to clinic tomorrow for a scan to see if my follicles are doing what they're meant to be doing. Fingers crossed

Keziahhopes · 09/05/2011 15:16

Italian - heard great things about New ID course, a friend of mine helps run one - duh, forgot to even suggest it before so glad you found out about it!! Hope it helps.
Rowing - if you have space take 2 pairs of shoes, one complete change of clothes, a warmer layer, suncream, book etc to read for flight. Easy to get currency from cash machine at airport if you need to. I have been to Slovakia many times (to visit a friend) and that is what I do, with a card that doesn't charge (Nationwide used to do that) if needed to. Good luck!

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rowingboat · 09/05/2011 14:22

Hi all,
just popping in. Thank you for the hugs and good wishes Italian and Lucy.
BB are you getting anything to help the embie 'stick'. No blood clotting problems or anything are there?
I'm off tomorrow. Not organised at all, everyone else I am speaking to has currency organised and bags packed - not me. I'm going to the ATM when I get there. It's only two nights so I reckon a couple of pairs of trousers and I'm all set. Do you think I should take two pairs of shoes?
I'm travelling all of tomorrow and all of Thursday so only have Wednesday to walk around and have the FET of course.
What would you guys pack for that? [interested face]

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Italiangreyhound · 09/05/2011 00:29

BB all best wishes to you for this to work.

Rowing hugs, as always.

Does anyone else want to join the roll call or update their details?

Italiangreyhound 46, DD aged 6 (from IUI), MC 2006, IUI/failed IVF, awaiting IVF donor eggs May 2011
KeziahHopes 36, no children, male factors and testing for immue issues, failed Ist ICSI March 2011, no frosties.Waiting to see consultant in July.
Lateatwork 40, DD aged 2.5 3 MC, frozen eggs 2006, IVF at ARGC twins due October (using fresh ingredients...)
LissySilver 36 (almost 37) DH is T4 paraplegic, so IVF a must. 1st cycle May 2010 successful, miscarried at 8 weeks. Cone biopsy following an ERPC. Second cycle Oct. 2010 unsuccessful. Starting at ARGC next week!
Lucy Lookout 39, DS aged 3.5, low ovarian reserve, DH has high abnormaility rate, 20 week termination Feb 10, 8 week mc June 2010, about to start IUI cycle. ARGC appt in July.
Monkeybumsmum 35, DS aged 4, 2 MC's 2008, 2nd trim. loss 2010, failed cycle IUI 4/11, 2nd cycle about to start.
Nooknook 32, low ovarian reserve and thyroid issues, on 1st IVF cycle.
Tametortie 30, 1 dd with previous partner, unexplained fertility, TTC 4 years- 1 mmc in may 2008, currently egg sharing at crm in Coventry.
WomanlyTales 35, PCOS, Clomid resistant, 1st cycle IUI failed, Waiting for next steps
Woowa, 32, DH is C5/6 incomplete tetraplegic, IVF with ICSI only possibility. DD 14 months from 1st cycle, now onto second cycle...

Today we went to a house for lunch with some friends. The kind lady who cooked an amazing meal had also put out crafts stuff for my daughter and the two other girls. My daughter picked up a small pompom, it was covered with little glittery strands

Something like this

www.alibaba.com/product-gs/248103037/glitter_Pom_poms.html
here
My dd cut the gold strands off the a couple of pom poms and the stands flowed off in the breeze. I thought of baby dust and wish it for each one of you!

I've worked out I have an eating disorder. I went to a Christian group tonight about eating disorders and found it amazingly helpful. It is called New ID.

www.newid.info/
here

I've only been to the first one but it was really helpful.

I feel so relieved that I have actually identified some of the problems and can see the patterns of behaviour. I know not everyone who eats too much has an eating disorder but I know for me that this holds the answer; still I am at the start of the process. A long way to go but now I know I can get there! I feel very excited and energised.

All the best.

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lucylookout · 08/05/2011 12:13

Thanks for clarification italian, have to admit initially I was having a few problems visualising what that photo might have looked like!

Sorry to hear you're feeling yucky rowing and good luck with hotels. I think rats would definitely be an optional extra I could do without.

BB sending you lots of positive thoughts to get those follicles growing. Tell me if I'm being too nosey, but I'm quite new on here and don't know your story. Why have you had to use IVF? Hope you're feeling OK about you and your DH's decision. None of this is easy it.

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Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2011 02:08

Rowing major hugs .

To clarify this photo I mentioned is a photo my insides not me on the bed!

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rowingboat · 07/05/2011 23:53

Hi everyone,

BB good to see you back! Fingers crossed for this cycle!

Lissy I did get the flights sorted out thank you! Hooray for AF!

For some reason I lost this thread and have spent so long trying to find it I can't read everything, but waves to everyone.

I'm feeling quite icky because of progesterone supplements, in fact, vomited on Thursday (first day of taking), but it was probably something I ate. Not fun, no!
Still trying to find a hotel which doesn't have too many rats. How many are too many? I think as long as no rats in the fridge, good!
Off now, speak again soon...

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Italiangreyhound · 07/05/2011 23:50

BB welcome back. Good to see you. So much hope this will work for you. When is your egg retrieval?

lucylookout Thanks for the wheat grass tip.

woowa I had IVF with donor eggs last year. I know it sounds mad but I called my embies Emerald Jake and Laurel Daisy and I have a photo of them as tiny two-celled embies and another of them being 'squirted in'. Because they did not make it I kept the photos and they are quite precious. We have an electronic photo frame (which displays the photos at about 20 second intervals) and my hubby put all our photos on the frame - so every once in a blue moon up pops the photo of the embies being squirted into me! So weird. We also had a third embie, which I grandly called Tyler Willow, that one did not continue to grow, so effectively 'died'. When I heard I cried, it seemed very sad. So in a funny way those photos of the other two are very precious because there is no photo of Tyler Willow!

woowa Just as an aside - my Rosemary Conley 'before' photos of me looking fat in a sundress are also on our electronic photo frame! So they also pop up from time to time!

Keziah all the best and hope your mum will be completely healed and back to normal soon; thinking of you. Just your judgements, so make a fuss if you are not happy with her care, you are the boss, make the doctors work!

Rowing how are things going? Are you there now?

My treatment is looking like it may start next month or the month after, later than I had hoped! But nothing we can do. It would be nice if it could all be over by August. We started trying August 2005 for number two so this August will be six years!

Hugs to all.

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