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Italiangreyhound · 2011-04-13T00:23:33+00:00

Hi ladies *Pumplinjoy*, *Shirley*, *Lissy*, *Keziah*, *Womanly*,*Val*, Late*, *monkeybumsmum*, *tametortie* and *Rowing* - hugs to you all. *woowa* of course you can join us. *Choco* and *Horton* and *londonlottie* do you still look in on us? Can you all find us?

pumpkinjoy · 06/06/2011 16:23

Hello

Well went for my pre-assessment prior to EC (hopefully) next monday. My blood pressure was high and was told I need to relax! Went home and listened to some nice music and cleared out living room/kitchen cupboards-hopefully therapeutic! First scan tomorrow to find out if stims are working. This is our first time so I just pray it is all working down there...

Lissy its great you have that many follicles. Very encouraging news for you.

Woowa Congratulations, lovely to hear.

Rowing I agree with what others and you have said-it's good to know that you got this far and does certainly bode well for next cycle. I'm just so very sorry to hear about the ectopic part of it-Are you feeling okayish on the medication they ve given you?

Love to all

xx

lucylookout · 06/06/2011 14:39

Woowa that's fab news, congratulations!

Lissy wow, 12 follies is great. Do you have any idea when EC might be? Thinking of you.

Hi to everyone else. I've been ill most of the weekend with a tummy bug and am still feeling a bit ropey, so will toddle off back to bed for a bit before picking DS up.

lucylookout · 06/06/2011 14:36

Rowing I'm so sorry that it's an ectopic pregnancy, but agree that the fact it stuck is a good sign and bodes well for the next time. Thinking of you and keeping my fingers crossed x

Keziahhopes · 06/06/2011 12:17

12 follies is amazing so far Lissy - all the best for good eggs.

LissySilver · 06/06/2011 12:15

woowa- Yay, a BFP!! What wonderful news! Do keep us posted...

rowing- Argh, I'm so sorry to hear about your pregnancy Is there no hope that it could still be viable? I'm sorry if that's insensitive...I don't really know anything about ectopic pregnancies.

BB- I agree with Italian about taking time for yourself. Just see that you get lots of "me" time and give yourself time to grieve and work through it. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Keziah- Hope you're feeling better. Fingers crossed for a fall cycle.

Italian- Where ya going on holiday?

AFM, Day 6 of stimming, and I already have 12 follies! Yay! Feeling exhausted and twinge-y in my ovaries, but that was expected. At least it's a short week for me. Jewish holiday starting tomorrow night means no work Wednesday and Thursday. Although I'll still be shlepping to the clinic each of those days, I don't have anything to do but rest afterwards.

If I missed anyone, I'm sorry. I think about you all loads, and hope that we all get what we need to be happy.

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Italiangreyhound · 05/06/2011 23:50

BB hugs and thank you so much for your kind comments.

BB I think you are very wise just to take some time and think about it. If this really is the end of the road for you then may you feel a real sense of peace about it. If not, then I really hope you will come back and talk to us all again. I won't bore you with lots of details but for me we have looked into issues like immunology and thyroid and I am having extra medication for these to see if this makes a difference. For us this really is our last time. I did say that before but the coffers will be bare after this. I do feel ready for it to end so I won't try and talk you round BB but if you feel like chatting it through, ever, we are here (or feel free to PM me), or my email is my name here plus my imaginary age - 39 - at yahoo dot co dot uk

All the best, Helen

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Keziahhopes · 05/06/2011 22:02

rowing so sorry to hear that embryo was in wrong place, but positive is that it worked - so really hope Sept's is a perfect cycle for you.

We are hoping to cycle in Sept also - see Dr in July, so hopefully if all things go well (those that know my story know that is always a big "if") then Sept would be good - well I would be thrilled for August cycle but I daren't think that positive!

Keziahhopes · 05/06/2011 22:00

babyB - perhaps in 3/6 months you may have a change of heart, if so we are still here. And kind of your dad to offer finance too.

2 embies - woowa hope they are sticky!

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woowa · 05/06/2011 14:51

Couldn't write this in the same post. 2 embies in, no i hadn't thought of naming them. We'll wait and see what the scan shows and then think of some names. I don't want to get too attached until i know for sure that one or both will make it.

Italian, i'm sorry your wait has been so long, i know it's unbearable. We moved while on the waiting list in one area of the country to have to then start again on another list. And you only ever see heavily pg women when you're waiting that long.

Got to do some work for youth group tonight now, so trying to switch mn off...

woowa · 05/06/2011 14:48

So sorry, rowingboat about your news, completely heartbreaking. And bb too.

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Italiangreyhound · 05/06/2011 13:31

Rowing my darling I can't quite believe it. What a terrible thing to happen. I just wish I could give you a real hug; you have certainly been through the mill. I guess we may well end up as cycle buddies after all. I am sincerely hoping my embie transfer will be early September.

Yes Pumpkin when we joined the list in July last year we were told 10 months. In the past the donor co-ordinator was completely correct to the month with her estimation and embie transfer happened after 14 months or whatever was said but she did caution when she said 10 that it might be 12. And had we not had a holiday booked for July and been able to start treatment this month as she had suggested then it would have been July, which would have been 12 months. BUT having chatted to DD about hols and we are going to meet up with others and it all being arranged I did not feel right about changing/losing our dream holiday. So the treatment is being postponed by just a few weeks but that will put us into September I think.

BB I hope you will pop on to say hi, we are thinking of you. I still feel bad for missing your post!

Keziah are you better now?

woowa was it one or two and have you named it/them???

HUGS to all.

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Keziahhopes · 05/06/2011 13:02

congrats on bfp Woowa - how many did you have in? Looking forward to hearing your scan results x

rowingboat · 05/06/2011 13:01

Hi all,
sorry not to have been on, it's been very full-on this week and I'm having some time to rest.

Woowa congratulations, hope it all goes smoothly and is competely uneventful until bubs arrives.

BB sorry to hear this cycle didn't work out , it is so hard to go through this stuff, but, from what I remember, there are other things in life which are actually quite nice and enjoyable, which, kind of, get forgotten in the ivf grind.
Take time to grieve and don't forget to go shopping and eat ice-cream. Big Hug!

Sorry for not replying to everyone, but waves and kisses to you all.

My news is, well the good news is, I was/am pregnant, the bad news, it was/is in the wrong place and I'm having to take methotrexate to prevent an ectopic pregnancy from growing and causing me a lot of trouble.
The embryo kept growing slowly, because it wasn't in the uterus, they think it may have attached itself to an ovary? ?. Got lost? Not been in the UK before? Don't know? I can vouch for those Czech embryos being incredibly tough and growing in the most adverse of circumstances.
So that's it for me until the final cycle, which will probably be in SEPTEMBER - ITALIAN!!
This is sad, but I actually feel heartened by the fact that an embryo stuck around, albeit in the wrong place. I hope, hope, hope the next one sticks and doesn't go wandering off again.

pumpkinjoy · 05/06/2011 10:17

Hi Italian thank you for your message. Yes, TTC first DC since feb 2008. BFP with 2nd IUI september 2010 (found to have short luteal phase so prescrbed progesterone injections) but sadly MMC at 6w5d and ERPC on 31/10. Since then decided on x2 further IUI with unfortunately no luck, but had already reached top of IVF waiting list. Now due for EC on 13th of this month-hope that unlucky number is not telling us something! Having first scan this tuesday after starting my stims on tuesday last wk.

So, Italian have read that you're embarking on IVF for september? I get the impression you would have thought cycle might start earlier but you have now come to terms with this? I guess alot of people on here wish things wd 'start' earlier so to speak-but as we all know on here life has a habit of generally not working out like that.... BTW, I very much enjoyed reading your earlier post about the more spiritual side of this TTC journey-about creating life but in a different, more challenging way (assisted) to the more 'natural' method. It was very nicely put and made me feel calm (have had a bit of a tense time since starting the stims, down regs were fine)

Well, hope all have a fantastic relaxing sunday-Where's the sunshine gone??! Sending everyone best and hoping for some positive vibes very soon for all of us xxx

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Italiangreyhound · 05/06/2011 00:55

Thanks, pumpkinjoy no worries about not posting for a while, we are here when needed. There is usually someone about. I am off to bed now. I am sorry it has been tough for you; I don't remember your story. Are you trying for number 1 or do you have a DC already? It is really tough. Whether it is the first or a later one. Whatever your situation, if it will help to share it, do. I can?t remember your whole situation. I think in the past I mentioned Zita West books to you, and you talked about IUI and IVF and so I am not sure if you have had IUI or IVF yet or not. Sorry to be dim but there are lots of names on here to keep track of.

Off to bed now. Night all.

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pumpkinjoy · 04/06/2011 23:27

Hello. I feel very sheepish coming along (again) and posting but have been keeping up with the thread but not posting-don't know why really-Well yes, I do-have felt so horrid about everything on this HORRID infertility journey and don't think I wanted to face anything. So many nights crying madly and feeling like it will never be our time-listening to friends announcing pregnancies while I'm nodding happily quietly going AAAAARRRGH!!!!

It's good to read so many of you have positive things to say and I feel gutless now saying all this when so many people have had a rough/rougher time. Am very sorry BB to hear your news-there is little to say to make you feel better but you know you have the support of people on here. Also to Italian I think you are super kind and lovely and I wish you the very best of luck. xxxxx

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Italiangreyhound · 04/06/2011 22:40

BB I am so very sorry, posting the list of us all must have looked totally crass and crap, it was a mistake as I had not read your post.

I know you already have one DS. I know how important this attempt was. There is not much I can say, except that I really hope you and DH will find peace amid all this. It is total crap, there is no other word for it. But your little son is a blessing and maybe after all this you can at least feel you have made your best attempt at a sib for him. He has you and DH and so much love directed at him, and you are (I feel sure) an excellent mum. So even though it is heartbreaking and terrible, I do hope you will find some peace.

All best wishes for the future.

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Italiangreyhound · 04/06/2011 22:36

BB I am so sorry, I missed your post, I saw lissy's post and replied to that and I totally missed yours. I am so very sorry.

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Keziahhopes · 04/06/2011 21:24

babyB - so sorry for your negative test. Life can be so cruel and seemingly unfair at times.

Lucy - hope you like ARGC and find it helpful.

am beginning to wish I was nearer London for more options for treatment - waiting is hard, so Italian enjoy your summer and holiday and then it will be you next!

lucylookout · 04/06/2011 20:00

Woowa I was wondering where you got to. That's fantastic news! Congratulations. How many embies were put in? Very excited for you x

My summary is that the May IUI didn't work. I'm (hopefully) moving to ARGC late Summer so for now I'm having a couple of months off of living like a pregnant woman when I'm not, IYSWIM.

BB I'm so sorry to hear your news and I hope you're dealing as well as can be expected with it. What a roller coaster this all is. I know your DH felt strongly about adoption, but what about egg donation? Is that something you have ever thought about?

Italian I sensed you were having a wobble, but am glad that you are once more resolved and happy with your decision. It's tough waiting 10 months, let alone 13. Hoping things work out for you very, very soon.

Rowing are you still out there? How are you my dear?

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Italiangreyhound · 04/06/2011 15:02

woowa wonderful news! So pleased for you.

Would not feel confident to summerise anyone's news except my own! My own is that I went through a wobble, wondered if it was all worth it, then decided it was and am now all excited again for treatment due in September. A much longer wait than I had hoped, we expected 10 months but it will be more like 13 but there we go!

Love to all.

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woowa · 04/06/2011 13:14

Hi all

Sorry for radio silence, been away for most of last two weeks - good timing to coincide with the 2ww. Anyway, got a BFP yesterday :) Can't quite believe it, and in fact, am putting all excitement out of mind until i've had a scan (IVF patients get one at about 8-9 weeks here), because we all know that things don't always go smoothly.

Trying to catch up on the thread...can someone summarise the big news?!

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Italiangreyhound · 04/06/2011 12:43

Hi ladies, I've updated the roll call and made our names bold, my update is it is now looking like September for final treatment!

Hope you can update/change/add yourselves if wish to

BB 42, 1 DS aged 4, unexplained fertility - problems with embryos sticking, 2 failed IVFs, this is last cycle
Italiangreyhound 46, DD aged 6 (from IUI), MC 2006, IUI/failed IVF, awaiting IVF donor eggs September 2011
KeziahHopes 36, no children, male factors and testing for immue issues, failed Ist ICSI March 2011, no frosties.Waiting to see consultant in July.
Lateatwork 40, DD aged 2.5 3 MC, frozen eggs 2006, IVF at ARGC twins due October (using fresh ingredients...)
LissySilver 36 (almost 37) DH is T4 paraplegic, so IVF a must. 1st cycle May 2010 successful, miscarried at 8 weeks. Cone biopsy following an ERPC. Second cycle Oct. 2010 unsuccessful. Starting at ARGC next week!
LucyLookout 39, DS aged 3.5, low ovarian reserve, DH all OK, 20 week termination Feb 10, 8 week mc June 2010, failed IUI cycle May 2011. ARGC appt in July.
Monkeybumsmum 35, DS aged 4, 2 MC's 2008, 2nd trim. loss 2010, failed cycle IUI 4/11, 2nd cycle about to start.
Nooknook 32, low ovarian reserve and thyroid issues, on 1st IVF cycle.
Tametortie 30, 1 dd with previous partner, unexplained fertility, TTC 4 years- 1 mmc in may 2008, currently egg sharing at crm in Coventry.
WomanlyTales 35, PCOS, Clomid resistant, 1st cycle IUI failed, Waiting for next steps
Woowa, 32, DH is C5/6 incomplete tetraplegic, IVF with ICSI only possibility. DD 14 months from 1st cycle, now onto second cycle

Hugs to you all.

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Italiangreyhound · 03/06/2011 13:29

YES Lissy it is. I feel so much better. I know it is a terribly silly way of listening to God but I sometimes just read a random bit of the Bible for inspiration. I read my kids 'Baby Bible' as I was upstairs and could not find my own one (which was downstairs). I know it is not a great way to do it, to just turn to a bit and read (don?t try this at home kids!) but I did. This is what I got on pages 10 and 11 for the story of creation accompanied by stunning pictures of a tiger and bear, a fox and giraffe etc (remember it is a baby Bible so very few words!).

"Then God made everything in it. Wow! God was pleased."

here

OK I know that sounds so cruddy but I just needed to feel a sense of peace about trying again. I realised that all of creation is God's anyway, and God was pleased with creation. My tiny part in this is just trying to bring a new life. It did help the other day when a lady was talking on a Radio 4 programme about doing an altruistic kidney donation. I kind of realised that so many of us are trying to bring life, share life, it was very positive.

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