Anyone else about to start IVF?

Evening all.

womanly I think I'd feel a bit wobbly but you do have time to think things through as your ovaries rest. If the clinic feel it's worth doing that's great news. Were they any good as answering questions or will there be another appointment to discuss stuff before you start again?

Also I'm feeling your comments about losing weight sensibly and trying to refocus on work. Over the last year, comfort eating and keeping control or focus at work has been hard. I doing well at work and things get done but I'm not pushing myself as much as I should because sometimes ttc/IVF (and all the accompanying angst) seems a bit full-time!

GP respect on the two stone weight loss! Maybe I need to look into this hynotherapy too Also great news that you are all down regged and getting on with the stims! Do you have any rough idea when EC might be/or do you have scans booked in to see how you're doing? Interesting on the IVF/ICSI split. I guess they are covering all bases or doubling your chances depending on which spin you put on it I think that the fertilisation rate is a little bit higher with ICSI but the live birth rate slightly lower so it evens itself out. On the plus side it should mean that you won't be left without any fertilised eggs and the other plus is that 'nature' will also be able to have a go with the other lot. (Lol at the 'naturalness' of IVF...)

Kool yay for the snifferama! If you do read the rest of the stuff about injecting like a darts motion you don't need to post it here - I figure I'll get to that point and be too far down the line/too full of drugs to be worried

Bella pumpkin any ET news? Really hoping all is well xx

Bondi hope the 2ww going okay and you are calm, serene and not thinking about what might be... or alternatively hope the mentalling is under control

skitoo sorry to hear that you are going to be a bit delayed in starting your cycle. We lost a month due to DH needing some more tests done and although it was a bit frustrating it's actually not been too bad. It's now less than three weeks until our appointment and, fingers crossed, I'll start down-regging around mid-July... though I may go spare if we have to wait until the August cycle!

Welcome to blacktreacle and also to plumtree and to bugsy. Plum any update on the possible OHSS - have things got any better. And bugsy your aging eggs and confused sperm are in good company here

Quick'Hi' to luck hope you had a wonderful holiday. I'm afraid I've lost track of where you are with cycles - let us know that the latest is.

Also waves for Bodeccia Jumpin and also BellaB who hasn't been around recently?? Hope all is well.

Finally some for care - these are symbolic representations of Cadbury nibbles rather than jammy dodgers which, frankly, would be poor comfort to any lady xxx Also please whinge away if it helps, it's not possible to be positive and hopeful all the time. I'm sure that the strength and determination will come back but in the meantime do whatever feels best for you.

ok - so I did a google search for places near Ealing - and there's one right here - www.hypnotherapylondon.me.uk/ - what do you think - is £85 too much / ok.. ?

Thanks garden - I certainly want to learn how I go through this session - - I carry my anxiety in my mouth so when any little flutter and I put something in my mouth.. sadly it is not anything healthy which I have PERFECTLY no problem saying NO to. Do you know of someone who I can go to here in London for this? And how expensive this might be?
kool I have a Puragon pen - - and it's really not so bad.. or I am just weird in that I enjoy the whole morning injection ritual...

Update from me - my clinic called and they said - let's try it again - same dose / same everything (plus perhaps more progesterone - they will confirm closer to date)... so I want to really feel good about this..though am a bit wobbly. I will need to wait this cycle out (to give my ovaries a rest - - I liked the sound of this..) and then get started with my next cycle -- so roughly in mid-July...

Looking forward to growing follicles and bfps - :)

womanly I meant to say, I'm a pukka tea fan too....I love the mint one

Great news re stims garden and lol at having to hide your drugs in the fridge there! Are you on the gonal F which looks like a pen? That doesn't look too scary I thought, whereas the other single injection (which I think is for the night before EC?) looked like a real injection...I read something about using a dart like motion and stopped reading! . Are you injecting into your tummy or thigh? Interesting re the IVF and ICSI combination, sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we might do something similar as we're using DH's pre chemo frozen, of which we only have 8 precious ampules (which can't be further split) so it kind of puts a bit more pressure on it working. Well done on the weight loss, that's ace. I realised I should be more supportive and not talk as much about my chocolate consumption! Really interesting about the hypnotherapy - will you be using it for the ivf process too?

I caved today and bought the Zita West vitamins (and book ...and CD !)

I also had what I'm taking as a good omen - I was looking for an acupuncturist in my area and have found one who lives on the same road as me!

Glad to her you're on your way garden - tell me more about the hypnotherapy pls..I feel I am a slave to my eating needs... :) Fantastic on the 2 stone drop.. I lost 8 kgs and then put back 5 ...so am currently really depressed that I have put on so much...

kool Hurrah on starting the drugs -- best of luck and hope it goes OK for you.

womanly that all sounds like a really good, positive plan

care more big hugs for you today. You're a girl after my own heart with the caramel nibbles...I found myself munching on them not long after breakfast the other day . Had to steer myself away from buying more yesterday! I second everyone else in saying not to apologise for coming on here if you're feeling down....this probably sounds horribly cliched but we're here for the journey, not just the destination. And I have faith that we'll all get to that destination and in the meantime let's take the journey together, ups, downs and all xx

Speaking of girls after my own heart....skitoo I too am most excited at the prospect of a mulberry outlet . Sorry about your mc story too , let's help keep each other positive when we get our bfps

garden good luck today, I hope you've down-regged like a good un and are ready to start stims .

pumpkin how did your eggies get on? Xx

luck I'm glad you had a good holiday

bella30 how did you get on yesterday? Sending sticky hugs

Hi to plumtrees, ellan, bugsylugs, Bodeccia, teds, Bondi, happygomummy and (and anyone I've not name checked, sorry!)

Sniffage started for me today. It seems surreal that squirting something up your nose can do something so dramatic!

best of luck garden for your appt today. care big hug. hear you on the tired bit...
yesterday I went for my walk and decided to get myself the Tesco - Chocolate Fudge thingie - 600 kcal plus - and was so disappointed because they changed the recipe...felt left down. What if our pick me ups no longer pick us up!!! Part of me was thankful that atleast I will no longer have this kamikaze urgings to throw my health out the window. thank you Tesco!
so my plan - I am going to spend this cycle & the next looking to lose weight at a sane, healthy rate. Back to running, eating five smaller meals a day and eight glasses of warm water -- Am nowadays hooked on Pukka teas - have you ladies tried any? I love the licorice & cinnamon one. I also want to re-focus on my work front - I know I have slackened during my treatment cycles..so want to pick up tasks that make me feel energized and good about the work I do.

Wave to kool, bella, pumpkin and everybody else - have a lovely week ahead.

A late comer for the group hug (((((((((((((())))))))))))))

Care thats what this thread is for xx

care you are not being whingey, you are grieving. So give yourself time and space and know that we are all sending much love. And Cadbury's Nibbles.

xxx

Hi, I had the blood test which confirmed it was negative. Had lazy afternoon at home watching weird portugeuse film eating cadbury's nibbles (so good!) and space invaders. Feel utterly pants to be honest, but the good thing is that its no worse than any other time - was a bit worried about it being a lot worse for some reason. Just feel so utterly tired tired tired of it all. Sorry to be whingey, I'm sure I'll bounce back in a week or so. We've booked a follow up appointment on weds so will see what they think about next stage then.

Waves and good luck to you all. x x x

Joining in the group hug ((((((((((())))))))))))) Thank you very much for your kind thoughts. lots of love
xxxx

Hi all, just a quickie to say I'm back from hol (which was lovely) and to send big love to womanly and care. You are both amazing and if I can be half as strong as you during this process then I'll be doing all right.

xxx

group hug back :)

Will check in later but all the best to pumpkin

((((())))) to care and womanly

Aw heck, let's just all have a group hug (((((((((((((()))))))))))))))

Wow Womanly what a lovely inspirational post, thanks for sharing with us . Am feeling pretty positive at the moment (probably because I'm not any drugs for first time in an age!) but your words have really encouraged me to keep with the PMA and that even though the road may be rocky we will get there in the end - we ALL will !!

Bella and Pumpkin - big days for you both, fingers crossed for happy embies and lots of eggs, hope all goes well xx. Pumpkin, take everything you think will help you in any way. Do you think they'd mind me taking my super kingsize goose duvet when I get to that stage?!?!

I'm off to purchase some baby aspirin today following Gardens advice, 14 months of mechanical sexy time has zapped me a bit so could do with the other benefits the aspirin appears to offer . Hope the rash is easing off too, did you mention it to your clinic in the end?

Bondi - hope you're keeping strong on your 2WW and not mentalling too much. Sorry if I've missed it, when are you due to test?

Good luck for the blood test today Care, hope that it can give you some answers and that you can enjoy the rest of your day off ((())). Try and spoil yourself like Kool suggested.

Kool I'm sorry you had to go through that with your scan, heartbreaking . I had early scan on Christmas Eve, should have been 6+3 but only saw empty sac, sonographer and fertility nurse advised us that we could be a day or so out which at that stage can make a lot of difference. Had to then wait until 4th Jan for another scan and then they confirmed MMC - was a crap christmas.

Gutted to be back at work today after a lovely weekend but do have a 3.5 day week - hoorah! Amazing DH drove me to Shepton Mallet yesterday to the Mulberry Factory Shop, I was like a kid in a sweet shop

Hi to everyone else

Hello all-sorry havn't posted for a while-have seemed to have been hijacked by all family members who appear very worried about me-apart from DH who knows me too well!!-We've concluded (and I feel abit better) knowing if this first cycle fails, we will try again-we will not be defeated I want to shout from the rooftops!!

Womanly your post made me smile. I have a similar positivity list in my head, and it does seem to make me feel better. Interesting how you said you feel better too knowing you need the progesterone support-I found out from our first IUI that I had LPD and was given the same and it worked for us-however short it turned out. It's just another positive thing we can all think about medical science.

I suppose I should really go to bed-up at 0630 for EC. These drugs have wrecked my sleeping pattern. I used to be the most calm chilled out lier-inner but recently have been getting up to do housework at 0400!! Very very odd-no wonder people are worried for me. Am going to collect my things to take with us-do you think wrong to take choco muffin and cosmo to read whilst willing DH to rtn afterwards?! Oh goodness, just hoping for enough eggs and some fertilisation activity at this stage. Am taking a toy bouncy egg for good luck charm-mad?!

Also welcome to Plum and bugsy May your journeys be as simple as possible-this is a very comforting place to be.

Love to all. I hope you are all fast asleep xxxxx

big hug garden - no need to be sorry at all - Am sorry the itchiness has returned.. are you still on anti-histamines?
thanks kool

X posts womanlywise, I just have to say your post gave me goosebumps, what amazing strength you have and thank you for sharing it with us

Thanks Bella30, I quite like the sound of 3 days of bed rest, I might take Zita's advice when the time comes. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow, all the very best. As everyone else says, getting to blasto is a great thing and must be woth going for if that's what they said. This might sound cynical of me but the way I figure it, the clinics want what is best for their patients but they also want the best stats (that was the cynical bit!) so that's good for us as they're really on our side as we all want the highest chance of success.

Bodeccia how frustrating for you....do you reckon an accupuncture session might get things going? A friend of mine who had succesfful IVF had accupuncture and the first thing they did was succesfully reduce the length of her cycle. Might be worth a try?

Hi skitoo I know what you mean about the scan. I'm not sure if it was the same for you but I'd seen the heartbeat on my scan and even then I had the mmc so I just don't know how it'll be possible to be relaxed about it. Let me know what you think of the book, mine hasn't arrived yet either. I erm...might have also ordered her CD .

Garden - of course! Now that you said that about the baby aspirin I remembered! I'm sure your DH is wandering around with a constant smile on his face! What dose do you take? Loved hearing about your new pets! And at the attempted sexy time with the light! Hope your work is going better now? I've been doing some work too today, and have found that Dairy Milk Caramel Nibbles (£1 on offer in Sainsburys at the mo) have very beneficial effects!

Hey Bondi, loving the youtube clip! How are you doing? Mentalling or ok?

Aw care, as you've got the day off tomorrow to go to the clinic could you do something nice too? A nice lunch perhaps? Massage? We'll all look after you on here too xxx

I randomly found myself idly looking at the 'birth announcements' bit on MN today and stumbled across the sweetest story. If anyone fancies a dose of the warm and fuzzies, check it out! You need to read the birth announcement but the story behind is is great! I'm not sure how to link to it but the birth announcement's title is called "If anybody remembers me poaching MN for witnesses to our wedding last year and is interested..." then someone has posted the link to the original thread. Well worth making a and having a read!

Are any of you who are having accupuncture based in London btw? I'd quite like a recommendation...