Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

Knitter what a lovely dream (except the first bit!). YES - I was also really cold at your stage! I seem to have warmed up a bit now (at 12+4) although I still sit on the sofa in the evening is fluffy socks, tracky bottoms, two t-shirts and three jumpers Does that make you feel any better?

Daisy sob at that image I had a pet lamb when I was little and it did indeed live in the kitchen - in a dustbin of hay next to the aga! Was my uncle and aunt's kitchen/farm though, not ours, sadly.

Thanks for the advice. Hummm, makes me think though, I'm on a farm tomorrow for the day for meetings... don't think they've got any sheep though so I should be alright!

Crikey no one else on here for nearly a whole hour!!

Off to a meeting now so you're in charge Brian

Quick question. Is anyone else REALLY cold... It took a three hour hot bath to warm me up yesterday...

Also I had my first pregnancy related dream last night. Doctors thought that my baby was going to be born without legs. But when born she was fine :) Nice dream, baby was called Caroline and dream even included bfing... Very detailed.

Wombat on the lamb/sheep advice, I've had various bits of advice given to me. The first (extremely young) GP I saw said "Oh, good good" when I said that OH was a sheep farmer. The first sonographer at the EPAU told me to wear gloves and I'd be fine, but then the MW said that OH had to strip at the door!

From checking the public health advice, it seems that greatest risk is when the lambs are freshly born and when they are still 'wet'.

But we're not taking any chances, and I probably would avoid the farm if you can . I'm not even allowed on the quadbike any more

But I am also having visions of pet lambs in the kitchen, and LO toddling around feeding things

AandR you sound amazing. I'm in awe of your abilities.

Digi - well done for asking on the tube. I haven't dared yet for what people might say but one morning when it was bad I just sat down in the middle of the carriage because I was feeling faint and promptly got offered a seat. Next time I may ask and if refused then sit.

Pink in our weird twindom I had been feeling better ms wise (only a little bit queasy in the first place) until this morning when straight after breakfast I emptied breakfast into the sink. Hadn't felt sick before and didn't feel unwell after. Not like anything I've ever had before but did feel a little reassured that there might still be something (s) in there.

digi sorry if I've made things worse. If it's any consolation I'm petrified... 6+5 today... There was a heartbeat at 5+4 but bean was littler than I expected... Also feeling un-pregnant today... Seems like the next 16 days are going to really drag for me...

Emoo very impressive namecheck :)

Oh that's a shame Daisy (but good obviously). My mum keeps inviting me to go to a local farm to see the lambs and I keep having to think of excuses why I don't want to/can't go (normally I'd jump at the chance!). Getting very mushy about the idea of taking the little one to bottle feed lambs in years to come though :)

Oh emoo epic catch up! You put me to shame! hope you have a very uneventful day today and the scan gooes well tomorrow. On the brown goo front - still getting it! That's nearly every day for three weeks now with four good scans in that time.

Don't fret Wombat I'm banned from everywhere with sheep. OH is extremely paranoid concerned about the risks and so I'm not even allowed to touch his work clothes until they've been through a hot wash. No bottle feeding lambs for me this year

He has at least washed the dog so she can spend the afternoon with me on the sofa watching tele

Hello all! Very busy and long day at work yesterday, which I didn't really mind so much as it stopped me thinking too much. I must have looked awful though, as someone (guess what, someone pregnant) asked if I was okay at one point... I just mumbled "yes" and carried on. Today I'm 8+5, which is when the last one came out. Stressing about scan tomorrow.

I like your list but I'll not put myself on just yet, as still fairly wibbly.

Wombat - you can be a jelly with me then while you wait..! Your ongoing brown goo stories with good scans are helping me no end.

Teacake - how are things now? You seemed quite sure earlier in the week, but I'm still carrying a flame of hope for you. Are the peesticks still coming up positive?

Digi - glad that you are being reassured by symptoms! The day where it all went wrong before is a horrible one to get through - hope yours is going well so far.

Robin - good work on booking the scan. I guess if you are on a lovely holiday, that might stop you worrying about it too much?

Onions - mmmm your cake descriptions are making me drool!

Velvet - I reckon ask him to move out whatever happens... you didn't want him there in the first place, and he has definitely outstayed his welcome. About your scans.. around here, if you didn't book in with MW until you'd seen a heartbeat at 7-8 weeks, there's no way you'd get your first NHS scan by 10+5 - might be better near you, but something to think about.

Daisy - good luck for your scan today.

Mamap - hoorrrayyy for the new house, and those mojitos sound scrummy.. And Pink too - know what you both mean about the maternity wear. All my jeans are tight now (to be fair, largely due to just normal lard) but I'm not buying anything yet. Tinned pears reminds me of my 70s childhood!

Orange, Nix - sounds like you needed a good cry... like A&R, I think I need a trigger too cos at the moment I'm just storing everything up..

Knitter - love your funny story about your dad... just the sort of thing mine would do!

Irene - another heron-lover here!

Tony - good luck with the house move!

Hope that MummyA, Dachs, HK, Pretty, Cep and Owl are getting on okay today.

As an afterthought Daisy you know that pg women are supposed to be a bit careful about contact with newborn lambs/newly lambed ewes?

digi hope today is a good one for you xxx

Daisy I'm so for your poor sheepdog!! I do however have quite funny visions of you at 3 months gone legging it around the fields herding bemused sheep as no canine substitute can be found

Digi may your day be blissfully uneventful and dull :)

((((Digi)))) here's to a boring incident free day!

I think your OH has it right Daisy - common sense is low on the agenda around here - we are like kids in a sweet shop, after a shitty 2010, a whole host of opportunities have suddenly sprouted and we dove straight in! Poor sheepdog - a supply service is a great idea! Oh and on the pelvic floor side of things I have been told there is a device for strengthening it which is a bit like a dildo . You have to hold it in and it measures how the strength of your muscles improve over time. I had the whole pee when you sneeze thing with DD2 and it took a while to be able to run for a bus without it being a bit embarrassing. hmmm will see if I can find it on dr google! Good luck with the scan.

owl onion I can feel a surf on amazon is needed - yum carrot cake - my favourite at the mo is a Delia Smith one. Like your pointy heel style. I hate it when people seat hog - I generally push back - well brought up child that I am!!

Good luck with the scan daisy

Congrats on the house mamap

Good luck with the move tony

knitter your info about crucial points in early pg has made me very nervous about the next 10 days until my next scan. Am pleased I've got it booked though and hopefully if all is well it means I can really start to relax afterwards.

Despite not even qualifying for a 'bump on board' badge I've already started asking young men to give me their seats on the tube for me. No-one's ever refused. Although with no bump to rub I do spend the rest of the journey looking down and trying to look as ill as possible. Older men always make a fuss about it - trying to clarify whether I'm pregnant or being cheeky. Young men just jump up without a peep.

Well, today I'm 7+4 and it's the day I really need to get through without incident. This time last pregnancy is when it all went wrong, even though I knew it was going to happen. Have backache and have been quite snappy with people already. God help the man who refuses to give up his seat on my journey home.

Thanks all for your good wishes. I'll let you know how we get on. Good tip Wombat, I'll go steady on the drinking (ooh, that doesn't sound good, does it?)

AandR you win! When my dad wibbles, I'll tell him about you and then he'll pipe down! OH was supposed to be starting building 4 houses this summer but he's had a fit of common sense and is leaving it a year - phew.

But we are having a bit of a RL crisis - our beloved sheepdog (working) has dislocated her hip and is all strapped up and looking very . Unfortunately, no one seems to operate a (like teachers) supply service. Anyone have a dog who'd like a nice run round some fields???

Good luck Daisy ! I've had to dash out of two of my three scans for a wee so far. They are totally, totally used to it. And actually, with the last scan, it helped get a better picture afterwards!

onion I have the Primrose Cottage bakery book too; the carrot cake recipe in there is the best I've ever found, I made it for my wedding cake :)

Dachs and Pink - really pointy kitten heels. That's what you need. And a book to pretend to read whilst you 'accidentally' stand on your charming fellow travellers.

fx daisy for your scan today...

sorry phone issue! That's good luck to any other scanners today!

pink know what you mean about needing to shop! I've bought the bare minimum and really need more but don't want to goad to jinx pixies

so excited about all the house moves! Our turn to find somewhere next please!

morning all!

Huge hugs to hairy good to see you! How are things going on the testing front?

daisy good luck on your scan today! Don't worry about the bladder - they are so used to it. But do bear in mind they might keep you waiting a while so be cautious about filling it too much!

Good luck to other rammess today too?

pink glad you held it together for the day. My DMum gave me a stern talking to. It was needed but when I said 'You do realise that I am now thinking - now I need to feel guilty about stressing as I may be harming the baby' she was completely shocked and had no idea I could take it that way.

knitter very sweet of your Dad!!

Daisy I can top even MamaP on the taking on too much stakes - I am the contract manager for building our new home which starts on site pretty much when my 12 week scan should be, I have started a new business and I am supposed to be launching in about 4 weeks, I have two DDs one who is at the terrible 2 age and one very overworked husband who I can't say anything about how overwhelmed I am (primarily about bean rather than any of the other things!) as he is already shouldering too much! - my Dad is hassling me about it all as well but at the moment I have no idea how I can let go of any of it. Oh well - all good stuff and things have a way of slotting into place (normally

Waves to all!

Fab news on the house mamap! Thanks for mojoto recipe, my v updiffed friend will be v grateful for that! I am a bit freaked by our parallel lives!! Tis very cool though :)

Good luck for your scan today daisy. Arse about the anti pee devices. Is it worth going to your gp and asking if they know why they say not during pregnancy? I would have guessed the same as you that it's because of infection risk but maybe that's because they can't guarantee that everyone will keep them hygenically? Oh BTW don't worry about what the sonographer thinks about bladder-SIL is sonographer and sounds like accidents happen ALL the time. Theyve got a sick medical sense of humour so are not bothered about stuff like that, promise.

Soo wish I could wear leggings to work! I am living in the same old clothes as I don't want to buy any maternity clothes yet, the maternity section of the shops scares me and I feel like a fraud :( I am going to have to bite the bullet and go bra shopping though...

tunnocks thinking of you, hope you're doing ok.

onions you are a cake baking machine!!! Hope the headache has gone away.

knitter LMAO at your dad, that is so sweet :)

dacha so far I've had 4 scans! my scan obsession outweighs my shyness about getting my bits out for the dildo cam.... Grrr about your minging train journey too-people are Sooo rude!!

HUGE hugs for hairy glad to hear you're holding up ok. Xx

velvet I would say achy hips and back sounds about right. Plus there is a really disgusting cold doing the rounds at the moment so it's possible that's what's making you feel gross. It's hard to say with the scans-i guess it would be ideal if you can hold out until 8 weeks but you need to balance that against mentalling levels!! At 7 weeks, even if it implanted late you should hopefully get the reassurance of seeing something.

Anyone hear the programme about morning sickness on radio 4 last night? They said MS either peaks or starts to wane at 10 weeks. Its definitely a peak here-spent most of last night retching! definitely not complaining-the more retching, the less wibbling at this end. Baaaad stuff happening on the number 2 front too-no wonder stomach hurts and feel pukey!!! sorry hope no-one is reading this over their brekkie!! At the moment I'm living off melon and tinned pears but spend all day fantasising about maccy d's cheese burgers. Those specifically mind you!! V v weird!!! Didn't cry at work all day yesterday!! Result!!

Hugs to all, there's a stack of tinned pears on the side since onion 's cakes have all been noshed!! Have a good day all xx

Waves hello to all.

I'm not going to be able to check all names - you lot are nattering for England!

Pink have checked out those anti-pee devices and they're not expensive (about £25) but they say not to be used during pregnancy. This might be due to the risk of infection?

Mamap great news on the house, and I'm so glad someone else is taking on FAR too much . I shall have to tell my Dad that someone is taking on far more than me (I only have to help my OH let his new barn conversion, sit my RICS final exam, and clear and sell my house)

Wombat glad all was well with your scan, and good luck with the house move too!

Hugs to all in need today. Have got my 12week scan later. Spare a thought for the poor sonographer who has to spending the afternoon playing russian roulette with my bladder

Good luck to anyone else with scans today. Will return later with enough mojito mix for all

tony good luck in the house move :)