Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

Hi Mitzimaybe and a big fat welcome. So sorry about your mc. You're in good company on this thread.

It's good to know there are others out there who've been with the wrong partners and found new younger lovely ones. Do go to the Doctor and check out the progesterone; it would help to know anyway, regardless of whether or not you want to conceive. I was mortified to go to my doctor (a friend of my teenage daughter's) and explain that I'd now got a younger partner, who doesn't yet live with me, who wanted a baby and could she check to see if it was all ok. I mean, how flaky is that? But she was brilliant - kind and supportive. And the nurse said 43? Just go for it. That's nothing these days.

I'm now 45 next week, 3 cps and an mc at 5 weeks (Dr's timing) - BUT, still trying. The mc was only last month - and I've just been through the same tears. Although we're a little traumatised, we both feel happy that we shared that little moment; we were never sure that we would. Your previous modus operandi sounded great. I was going to say 'suck it and see' but I don't think that's part of the SMEP plan

Diege bad luck with the voms. How long did this last with your previous pregs?

Lou so so happy for you. A picture of your bean? Have you seen it? I hope so. Aren't those pictures lovely.

all 'waves'. Hiya. No symptoms after initial long list of them. Was gutted. Now 4 days before due to come on and smear of beige (spotting?), digging-like niggling intermittent pain in one side, cramps and mildly tingling boobs. I'm wondering if it's one of those cyst things, when the egg doesn't come out properly. Can't think of the name. Think those have similar symptoms. Has anyone else had this?

mitzi hello and welcome. So sorry to hear about your recent MC. It is horrible, I know. I think nearly everyone on here has been through similar and we all feel for you. Whatever you decide to do about TTC - do feel free to hang around and chat to us. Oh by the way - don't get excited about the Friday Night Bistro - it's all feckin' virtual food!!!

lou My heart breaks just imagining bringing home a child of mine's ashes. Oh God here I go with the tears again, woman!

Anyway, what I was gonna say was, when we scattered my dad's ashes i said, "This isn't really you Dad, you were so much more than this. You meant so much more to many people." Obviously that was an old man who had had a good life and had produced children and grandchildren and with Georie it is so much more unfair that she died. But the fact remains. She was so much more than just the ashes and in your head she will always be that beautiful little girl you held in your arms. Sending you one of my super duper 'squeeze you too tight' hugs, my love.

Thanks for the welcome and the bit about you all. I started writing about my miscarriage (in response to Curlylox) but it was turning into War & Peace so I'll spare you that and try to keep it brief. In your style it would be:

Mitzi - absolutely ancient (47.) No children, not TTC per se but no contraception for 18 months without result until this year. MC started at 6½ weeks, two weeks of hell, just finished at 8½ weeks.

In slightly more detail: I don't have any children, mainly because I spent over 20 years with the wrong man. In 2009 I started seeing a lovely man 10 years younger than me (!) and we've never used contraception because I thought I was too old to conceive (but didn't mind if I did.) When my period was late (in Feb) I thought it was probably the start of the change but I kind of felt pregnant... etc. Unfortunately only a week later I started cramping & bleeding, when I was only 6½ weeks gone (from SMP date.) It took another two weeks of an awful emotional roller-coaster from despair to joy and back again ? "there's not much hope" - "it might be OK after all" - "no, it's not, you're definitely losing it" ? "it's still there, might progesterone supplementation help?" ? "nothing we can do to save it" etc. However repeat scan this Wednesday showed it's finally gone.

I'm surprised at how weepy and devastated I feel, given that it wasn't planned and was with me for such a short time, but the nurse practitioner explained that my hormone levels are plummeting right now (like PMT but many times worse) so, even if I didn't have something to grieve over, I'd most likely be feeling weepy and emotional anyway.

I'd kind of like to try again but my bf (having watched me go through agony the last 2 weeks) doesn't really want to. I'd be happy to go with a "que sera sera" attitude except that I suspect my progesterone levels may be too low and if I want to get that investigated, supplemented etc. then I know it's likely to be a huge struggle with doctors and I'd need my bf to be in it with me.

OK still a bit war & peace-ish ? sorry! - but believe me it's a lot shorter than it could have been. Obviously more details available on request.

Thanks Tina X
Thanks Diege how awful you feel so crap,does your ms normally last a long time? Im lucky [in this sense only!!!] don t really suffer with m.s.

Georgie's home well,her ashes are.Really, i can t relate my baby to this little box and as i said to the funeral director i hope to god thats the last time i step in to a funeral palour for a very,very,very long time.

thinking of you today lou and welcome also to Mitzimaybe I also had a mc last year so I can fully sympathise with how you're feeling and gum is right they are a great bunch on here

Hello! Massive congrats to Lou - that's brilliant news
Back from Cardiff last night - very tired, and also seems that the cyclizine isn't working anymore . Very nauseaus and also being sick 4/5 times a day, so am now combining the meds with vit B6, and will contact GP again next week if no joy. Really want yto avoid being signed off work/having to go ti hossie like last time. On the positive side, I have never had sickness with a mc, so at least the stickiness of this bean looks good!
On the early scan front I have been playing phone tag all week with the EPU, so will try again and get something sorted. They don't scan here usually unitl 8 weeks anyway, so no massive rush.
Will catch up later and open up the bistro - I will have to have a segregated area though so that I don't get a whiff of anything spicey!

Thanks Italian XXX
Hi Mitizimaybe welcome X
Lia whoop whoop 4 days hope little Lia isn t late!!! Surely not???? I m one of 4 and by the time my mum got to my youngest sister she was way early and had a virtually non-exsistent labour.Kate was born on the doorway of A&E at the entrance to the hospital,surely, by your 6th your the same????
Gum thanks.As we say you ain t out till the fat lady sings!!!!

Hi all hope everyone's well.Bit of a mixed day today off to collect Georgie's ashes as we re off to have her paperweight made tomorrow.I m glad to bring Georgie home but Ant is dreading it .As i see things these ashes don t seem real to me i still think of Georgie as the darling baby we held and her spirit is with me all the time anyway.Another hard task for us to do.

lia I might be interested, can you send me the link or post it on here?

Mitzimaybe Greetings and welcome, of course you can join us.

Lou so pleased, still grinning.

Lou - so happy to hear the scan went went!

Lia - 4 days.Wow! How exciting.

Welcome Mitzi - so sorry about your miscarriage. Do you have other children? We are a lovely bunch of women and I think you'll find a very supportive place to ttc.

Deige - how's everything going? Are you having an early scan?

Nothing new to report here. I wish my boobs would hurt.But there's nothing - nix, zero, neint...Already thinking about having to do SWI again next month. Am starting to feel a bit tired of it. Hopefully I'll have more energy for it once AF arrives and leaves.

Where's everyone else at?

I know mumsnet isn't into those tracking thingies that go in your signature but it helps keep track of where everyone is at.

sorry, am due in 4 days. fed up now, come on baby. :)

Ladies, I just received this email and wondered if any of you would be interested.

Let me know

Dear Lisa,

Cambridge University Hospitals Trust is undertaking a clinical study on fertility monitoring. One of our partner organisations has provided your email address as a potentially interested member of the public.

Should you be interested in the area of fertility, or know anyone who may be interested in participating in a UK-based trial on fertility monitoring, please click the link below to indicate your interest.

Acknowledgement of Interest

If this is not of interest to you or anyone you know, please simply delete this email and accept sincere my apologies. You will not be contacted regarding this study again.

Yours Sincerely,

Dr. Oriane Chausiaux,

Addenbrookes Hospital
Cambridge University Hospitals Trust

Hi everyone, I'm new here and not quite sure how this works yet. You all seem to know each other already - can I join in or is that rude?

By way of introduction, I'm in my forties, have just had a miscarriage and am wondering about trying to conceive TTC again. (Haven't got the hang of all your abbreviations yet, sorry.)

Girls,girls,girls you can all come!!!! we re go on group outing next time!!!! Who says Ant needs to be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks curly hope the bast*s don t catch up with you!!!
Italian thanks you young looking thing you!!!
Jolls thanks though don t understand a word of what you said!!!!!!!!!
Hippy glad you still smiling

italian LOL - yes that man was very funny and totally useless. He even took ages to tell everyone the bloody name!!

lou still grinning for you. Who is coming to the next scan then - italian???

Louise I am so HAPPY for you and so relieved all is well. But old hugs coming your way!

Hippy how come you get to accompany Madam Louise, when is it my turn!

Lol Yes, thanks for the pep talk about age, actually I am always getting mistaken for someone UNDER 40 (well twice recently) so that is good. YES, One born every minute, the bloke who said 'sliced and diced' and talked about his biggest fear being left holding the baby because wife died AS HE SAT NEXT TO HER!

Tina hugs

tank where are you?

Lia good news that all well.

Nicole, OooohShiny, Curley, Shandybass,
Jolls, Alba, Diege, Gum, panshe, and Muchlove - Waves and hugs to all.

such lovely news lou that's just terrific... xxx

am running late and need to get DS to bed, so will post tomorrow as out for St Patrick tonight. Beannachtaí na Féile Pádraig to you all xxxxx

Thanks Tina X

Hippy X you do make me laugh!!!!!

Lia how lovely to see you X Whats your due date? you seem to have been pregnant FOREVER????????????? Hope you re ok? Apart from boredom XX

Alba hi.Hope you re ok? Still enjoying your babymoon....I ll tell the others in a few weeks i know they will all be so happy for me and willing all to be well but i would like to wait to i ve got a couple more scans ubder my belt.I know on many threads there are many people who know of Georgie's story and were touched by her and want this for us.XXXX

just popped on to see how lou got on at scan.

Am so for you and Ant louise . You so deserve this. I am wishing you a very very boring and uneventful (in the nicest possible way) 7 and a half months.

Hi to everyone else.

still pregnant, does anyone have any research on anyone caryying to teenagedom? :)

Oh, and you've made me cry again...

for Lou
Now, when are you going to let the others know so they can all be excited for you. They'll all be there for you every step of the way I'm sure.
And for now, I hope you're enjoying that it's all good