Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

Hey Diege isn't that the perfect time? Won't the swimmers have had a chance to reach the deep end? Or am I a total novice at OPK?

Yep, I'm a teacher - English (although with all the typos at the moment, it would be hard to guess). Being worked into an early grave at a private school. Great food/holidays = shorter life expectancy! You?

Hello! Rang the boss man and pleaded for a marking extension so have now (begrudgungly) been given to Monday...will still be a push.
Anyway, wanted to pop in and say hello. I think I will sadly be out this month as I've just had a pos opk and dh is at his mums with the dds tonight . Did the deed last night, but not holding out much hope.
Welcome Tina, oh and you GP sounds great lolfactor. You must keep us up to date (and are you a lecturer/teacher too?).
Oh and Hippy poor you and the pooey bottoms - really hope you can stay germ free. Ds is poorly here too, but of the high temp variety so no pukey sheets as yet!

Hi all - can't believe how much has happened since I was last on. Fingers crossed Jolls - and to everyone else this month. I'm addicted to Episodes, too. E? What's an E? And is she helping?

11.11.11.sounds more like the title of film than a birthday, Beattiebow, but given everyone's histories there's enough to make a 3-hour epic.

Thanks for all your kind wishes (Hi Hippy et al) - and welcome to Tina. Please please don't give up hope everyone. If I can get preggers at 44 (45 in March) then you can. It was my due date today and, hallelujah, it's still a sticky bean. Rang the doc and asked if I needed a progesterone supplement to make sure it stays inside and she said not to worry - my progesterone levels were taken a few months ago and showed they were fine. I hope she's right. She sounded really excited, which made me feel quite optimistic. I'm obsessing - looking up miscarriage rates/abnormalities etc. I've got a 1 in 4 chance of losing it, according the sites, but the Dr thinks that I might have better chances, having had 3 kids. Hopefully my body will just know what to do. And if it does go wrong - well, it wasn't meant to be. Trying to be philosophical. Only just made it through marking and bldy yr 11 parents evening. Know how you feel Deige

Off to pretend to cook - where's the tin opener?

ooh just saw on Yahoo that you need to conceive this week to have a baby born on 11/11/11. Come on team you can do it!!

Hi tina and welcome. I use the cbfm too, and would ordinarily try to swi on a high day as well as a peak. I noticed last month (when I had a monitored cycle) that I ovulated on the first peak day, which would suggest that it is useful to swi before you get peak. I tend to try to use ewcm as a guide more than anything else. My issue is that I stop swi on peak, and others on here have advised that you should dtd one more time.

Google Sperm Meets Egg Plan - I think we are all doing that this month, and then all bases will be covered (you'll be knackered and fed up of swi or swoi though!).

hello ladies, I've been reading your thread and hoped I might be welcome to join you all sound such fun I'm hoping you can cheer me up!

I'm 42 and currently in the 3rd month (ish) of trying for my second child (my first 'child' is now 19! This will be with my 2nd hubby who's 41 and doesn't have one of his own

I'm using the clear blue monitor plus backing it up with the smiley face sticks too which thankfully show I seem to ovulate regularly but no luck yet

beattie I noticed from your post that the detected surge can happen after you've already ovulated, we've been concentrating on trying on peak days (as well as other random times too of course lol) do you think that may already be too late and we've missed the boat?

anyway hope you don't mind me joining in :-)

Tina

Quick hi to all. My DS2 is off with a bug. He's been vomiting since Saturday and we've had to make the decision to throw away 3 pairs of PJ bottoms due to runny bottom problems (they were old PJ's anyway )

Now I feel a bit sick and Dh says he has an upset tummy too. All very worrying as I'm on CD10 today and the second line on the OPK is getting more obvious - although no yet.

I hope we don't end up having to have sex when we both feel blurggghh.. oh the romance!

lou I often carry on doing the OPK's after i've got the pos and have had a smiley face for 2 days in a row many times. I think it's just catching the surge on the way in and on the way out.

BB Glad to hear that they don't think you have ashermans - hope all the tests go well. Both italian and I have under-active thyroids so you could join our exclusive gang

gum I asked my GP about asprin and she said it was not good to take it if you DON'T have the sticky blood thing. I think the tendency is to think it's worth giving it a go but please do talk to a doctor first. I can see why lou is planning on doing it and she has had approval from a doctor. I know after an MC the tendency is to try to find somehting to prevent it from happening again but I seriously think that my 2 MC's and your MC were almost definitely just down to old eggs. I know how scary it is to think about being preggers again, hang in there, lovey.

Big hello to all, especially the newbies. All ok lol ???

diege sorry to hear you're struggling to keep up - miss you on here.

Hi all. Well done on the shagging! I'm very impressed with your stamina.

I haven't started yet - cd7 here and have just felt too tired. But will try to ease in gently soon while the monitor is still showing low. Don't want dh to feel used! lou I think the surge can come up to 36 hours after the smiley face. When I had my monitored cycle last time, I still had "peak" on my monitor even though the scan showed I had already ov'ed.

gum my temp rise always came a couple of days after I ov'ed, so it is possible that you ov'ed yesterday and temp will go up tomorrow. Anyway, still sounds as though you got alot of action.

I am waiting for my blood test results - thyroid and prolactin. it will be interesting I think. Also got an email from the Asherman's specialist who thinks it doesn't sound as though I have Asherman's - my womb lining is too thick apparently. Also Scary Expensive Clinic Boss Woman didn't think I had that either, so that sounds positive. But buggered if I know where my womb lining gets to! and why I haven't managed to get pg either. But being relaxed this month at the moment.

Hi Curly Yes last night more swi. then more tonight!!! Boy have i ov'd....loads of ewcm.Think the grapefriut juice i ve been drinking helped.Hope you re keeping up .....XXX

Jolls 10 dpo is way too early!!! Its not over to the fat lady sings!!!!! Glad you re out and about.

Much again could be too early!!!! FX xxx

Arh...Gum allo sounds good.Glad you and dh are back on track.

BB well done on the shredding.Hope you feel more positive after your appointmant, all be it worse off!!!!

Back at you , for yesterday, Italian

Yeh!!!!!!Diege come and join us [well, not literally!!!] on the "shagfest" !!!

Hi to everyone else.Hope all are well.I did "wifely "duties last night and cooked a proper meal even set the table and ran a bath for dh!!!! We agreed not to buy cards , i still don t like going in to card shops haven t since Georgie and avoid it as much as possible.

Then more swi,.....More tonight then tomorrow off.Anyone using the smiley faces have you ever tested after you ve got the smiley face? I tested again yesterday [just for fun] and smiley face still showing...... it said sometimes lh surge leading up to "O" can sometimes be detected 2-3 days running which hopefully will be covered by the ems plan.

Hi guys, happy Valentines to you all.

Oh Deige, I don't envy you, but I'm sure it is worth it if it pays for a holiday.

Beattie, it's a pity it is so expensive. I'd love to have a monitored cycle (that's the control freak in me). I'd like to be armed with all the details, but then again I over-think everything, and need to relax more.Now I'm second guessing the idea of aspirin and progesterone. But I think with an LP of 12 days and good high temps after O, that progesterone isn't an issue. As for the aspirin, I'll talk to the Dr when I know what's happening with this cycle(whether preg or not).

I'm pleased to say the romantic dinner, wine etc worked as I had hoped on my DH. He also bought me a lovely silver bead for my troll bracelet.I think my DD may have influenced him there!

I think I Oed yesterday, day after +OPK, but didn't have a temp rise this a.m. It may be that I need a new battery in the thermometer. I'll see what tomorrow's temp says. Maybe I'll O today instead? If any one is interested, you can see my chart here FF says I'm 3dpo but I beg to differ, and think it will change.

My DH is off on camp with year 12's for three days, tomorrow. So I do hope I have Oed. I'll be very sad if it comes while he's away. And with all the work getting organised for the camp, I doubt DH will be up for it again tonight...

Geez, sorry for rambling on about myself!

Jolls, like you said, 10 dpo is very early, and you didn't get bfp that early before.And if you haven't had all the spotting etc, then it is sounding good to me. I really, really hope you get bfp this time. Sending loads of positive thoughts your way.

Muchlove, sorry to hear you've been ill, poor you. Also sorry about the bfn, but at 10 dpo, it is still early days isn't it? Wouldn't it be great if you and Jolls could be bump buddies?

Ah well, it feels so good to be back.It feels like home a bit. Listen to me...all sooky and mushy!

BB shit that was an expensive day :(. Am seeing E next week, booked it to coincide with pre-ov. Funny how seeing E seems so cheap now after those trips to the Bus Station neighbourhood . It hit me last week that E resembles Tamsin Greig the actress (currently in Episodes - anyone watching this btw?).

Really interested in Aspergers. I think we're all on the spectrum somewhere, but I continue to look for signs in DS. My sister's middle child (now an adult) has severe autism and was diagnosed after his language delay was investigated. My DS is really starting to physically resemble my nephew, it's quite disconcerting.

diege sorry you're running behind. That must be stressful :(

Hi to all - no hearts, flowers or chocs here!! DP very unromantic in the gesture sense!! But he has his good points.

hi all, hello newbies! hope your stay here is short and sweet. How's it going lolfactor?

Fingers crossed for you jolls - cd 26 is very early days. I think I didn't get a bfp ever until my period was a week late (I conveniently forget that of course when I'm testing on 10dpo)

Good luck for that shagfest everyone! I don't have to start the SMEP yet, and am feeling pretty tired atm anyway. But we are going to shred tonight and after that maybe we'll both be in the mood?

Another trip to the big scary clinic boss today [ker-ching!]. She doesn't think I have Asherman's, but offered to scan me [ker-ching!]. I refused as I can get this on bupa elsewhere. She has tested me for a thyroid problem and excess prolactin [£ ker-ching!]. I'd never heard of that before causing infertility, but it was interesting after my breastmilk issue recently. and she wants to put me on Clomid for next cycle too and also track that cycle [double ker-ching]. Blimey it was an expensive afternoon!

Jolls have you seen E recently? I would like to go back to see her next week I think.

gum good to see you back. Hope you are successful with your swi!

diege hope you get your work done soon. I never seem to be on top of my work (or my life really) - it's a constant struggle isn't it?
Lambskin my ds has aspergers too. I have a second ds who is 2 and am keeping an eye on him. It makes life very difficult for us all, and I really worry for ds1 as he finds school etc very stressful.

italian that sounds like a very positive appointment - I know that it is good to get answers finally (not that I have yet, but I live in hope!).

muchlove sorry about the bfn, but isn't 10dpo very early to get a bfp? the statistics on fertility friend are something like 14% of bfps on 10dpo (I think) - anyway very low. I really enjoyed my monitored cycle! I'm having another one next time too and wish I could have one done (at home maybe) every time.

anyway, must go (and shred!).

That's good Jolls . I don't think you had to swi anyway did you? Not that that's much consolation when you're feeling rotton (who was it on here who had to dtd while feverishly ill?)
I am sadly falling behind with my work, despite burning the candle at both ends and flouting the rules by marking in public places I will have to big it up and ring for an extension tomorrow, and just ignore the sighs on the other end of the phone.Very quickly (ds and dh due back any min) great to hear from you Italian, and sounding so positive too.
Hi to everyone - will name check when I have more time . A hint of ewm today, so will swi, possibly the start of the EMS shag-fest if the opk gets darker!

Just a quick one before a cook 2 teas (one for the kids and a 'romantic' one for me and dh).

Louisesh - Yes! I read that before ds was born and had totally forgotten about it, might be a good one to revisit.

Been having a particularly crappy time so can completely sympathise with Curlylox some days are harder to get through than others, but I think you may be surprised at how many people are willing to listen and talk about depression in rl as well as mn.

Happy Valentines Day everyone and I hope everyone gets at least a snog and maybe even a shag (wi obviously)

much better thanks Curly, throat and headache and yukkiness all gone. Not cried today! Did cry yesterday though but that was because my lovely DSil told me she's going to run her next marathon for The Miscarriage Association for me. I was so touched.

DS also back to normal thank god. Been in the park most of the afternoon, lovely and sunny on the coast today.

Hi all
Well I tested this morning CD26. BFN, and not even a hint of a shadow of a flicker of a line... it just looked like the whitest of white circles.

The only reason I tested was I wanted some excitement I had no spotting yesterday (and in fact none today either yet), which is very unusual as once I start pre-period yukkiness it continues until it turns into period, even if it takes 4 days to get going it's always there IYSWIM?

But looking back at previous BFPs it's unlikely I'd get a line until Friday at the earliest. So if I'm still in the game I'll test on Friday. Had a strange metallic taste yesterday but that could just as easily be the aftermath of horrid throat. Haven't really had any other symptoms that I can think of, so suspect it's Mother Nature playing another of her blimmin' hilarious jokes!

How's everyone else?

x

Hey All

Been really ill since Thursday (chest infection) and still feel rubbish today soooo been in my bed ......anyway have only managed a quick browse thru....
ITALIAN That's great news it makes such a difference when you have somebody (medically) on your side and caring for you it takes some of the worry away

Ahh GUM glad your back here....

CURLY Sorry bout feeling down (it is the hormones I guess) I am like it every month.....

Hello to all newbies and wish you all the world of luck...

Love to all the crew but I am feeling to crappo to name check today......hopefully I am feeling more chipper soon and then I will catch up.......

Oh yeah and 10dpo today and BFN so guess I'm out this month on to the monitered cycle I spose ????

xxxx

Gum i take 75mg aspirin daily from 7 weeks onwards when proven a viable pregnancy.All my blood tests were nad but my consultant with Georgie thought i should take it for a "placebo" effect and i was quite happy to.I ll be on it next time also.You re quite right we WILL get pg[determined face!!!!]

Italian all sounds quite promising..Glad you feel better.It helps to have a plan!!! I m a planner , by default,as my counseller calls me!!!!

Arh...Lambskin Aspergers...I get it now!!!!DOH!!! I read a really good book on Aspergers think it was "the curious tale of a dog" or something like that..Have you read it? What did you think?

More swi last night.,then tonight.Think i ll spoil Ant tonight as he's been a godsend for me recently.Then back to it!!!!!

Sorry, I also meant, thanks HopefulGum.

"Anticoagulants: If a blood disorder is contributing to recurrent miscarriage, baby aspirin and heparin treatment can help to thin the blood, to prevent it from clotting."

www.sharedjourney.com/miscarriage/recurrent.html here I have NOT read the whole page. You need to see the doctor to ask her/him as there are blood tests they can do to see if you have any factor. I would not try and take any drugs without knowing you do need them because thinning the blood can be dangerous I believe and possibly if you do not need it it may have the opposite effect, may make it harder to get pregnant. I don't know.

I also post on assisted conception and Rowing is there. I posted last night so you should be able to find it. As far as I know there is no exciting news about rowing.

Italian - that's great news that the consultant could give you a plan. I hope your levels keep dropping and it all works out with the donor egg. Of course it would be great if you got a BFP without it too!

I have wondered about taking aspirin. Is anyone else doing it? Is it something that occurs as we get older (the clotting problem) and would it cause miscarriage early in the pregnancy or later? Of course I'm worried about miscarrying again and wonder if I should include aspirin and progesterone cream as a preventative, but I do wonder if I should just see what happens.Is the clotting thing very common?

I guess I should google it and see what I can find out!

Italian, do you still hear from Rowing on another thread? I miss her, so I might have to see if I can find her. I wondered whether she has got pregnant yet?

Well, better go,, just popped on for a moment.

Hi all in case you are interested I went to see my consultant last week. The key factors seem to be that my thyroid, although within reasonably safe margins, is not great for trying to get pregnant. The hormone which is driving the thyroid, TSH, was a bit high. So for TSH 5 is normal, but for someone trying to conceive it should be 2, apparently. So anyway my TSH was a bit high, at about 6. After taking the tablets for about a month it was down to about 4. Now after a further two weeks it?s down to 3. So my consultant has said to increase the dose a bit and he will write to my GP.

Also my consultant says that I have had most of the level one tests and he did not feel I needed the level 2 tests. Level 2 tests cost over a £1,000 so I must admit I was not looking forward to getting them. Consultant thinks that I may have a small indicator of a clotting factor problem, which can affect the embryo's ability to implant. So he has said he will write heparin and aspirin into the protocol for our final lot of treatment and also a low dose of steroids.

So I think we are fully covered for pretty much any eventuality. I do now feel very positive.

Hi all

Curly so sorry things are not going well but hope you will get help in real life as well as support here. Just my opinion but if you are concerned it is depression please do see you GP for a chat, they can and should recommend some really good help.

Panashe I am 45 and waiting for a donor egg. I?ve got a six year old daughter, who is great, but have been struggling for last 5 years to give her a sib. This really is our last go!

Oh Jolls Caramel MC sounds like a candy bar!!

lolfactor and Lambskin and jenbe, welcome.

hopefulgum welcome back.

Hippy, Diege, nicole333 and all the usual crew, greetings.

BB sorry I did not comment on the Asherman?s before, I do not know much about it but I have read a bit now. I hope you will get the appropriate help. Has it been diagnosed and have you been told how severe it is or is it not yet diagnosed? Sorry if this sounds nosy and I have not followed everyone?s comments really closely.

There is so much info here and I am sure I have missed stuff.

WOW I fancy a off to put the kettle on and then will update you on me!