Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

oh jolls, I admit, I did giggle, but then thought perhaps that was hysterical laughter from you? DO you know if/when you ovulate? Do you reckon he'd be up for it if he didn't have to move much?

I'm glad to hear the injuries weren't worse, but I do think cracked ribs hurt a lot. My Dh did it whilst playing drunken football - so I had very little sympathy - but he was uncomfortable for about 6 weeks.

Well done for getting the census done.

My DS is sitting in the middle of the dining table putting pencils in his milk.Time to go.

thought you might all need a giggle... so it was CD14 yesterday for me, and after SWI on 8/10/12 (literally about 3 hours before I started being sick - do you think it's the world's earliest ever episode of morning sickness ) thought maybe we should complete this month's entry (as it were) with a last effort...

DP only comes back from the building site new house-to-be having been a bit casual jumping around the joists (no floors or stairs in the house at the moment) and had slipped on a not fully fixed one, slipped between two, fortunately grabbed at one before falling to more serious injury... but he's only gone and cracked a rib, so ends up at A&E instead of any SWI...

h hahahhahahhahah ...

hope everyone else doing ok today... I lost 2 hours this morning as DS managed to wake at 5.20 (old time) rather than 6.20 IYSWIM... but I have done my civic duty and done the census this morning. So feeling virtuous. But knackered :).

brinjan So sorry I was banging on about nits and you had a real concern. Sorry for being so short-sighted there. I agree that a heartbeat seems like a good sign and surely you wouldn't see that at 5 weeks.

I had a scan when I was meant to be 6 +3 and they could only see a small probably empty sac which measured the size of a 4-5 week and that unfortunately didn't go well. I know that sounds like a negative comment, but what I'm trying to say is that a heartbeat and a foetus is a really good sign. I was told to come back in 2 weeks as well and that is an absolute nightmare. I feel for you having to wait but hope you are rewarded for your patience.

Hi. Well I'm suitably hungover but feeling better. Thank you for your messages Beattiebow and hippy, particularly, I can now see the funny side of poas and af arriving!

Having done the temp charting and opks I think I'll go all out and do everything this month, bring on the shagging. Hope I don't run out of steam before ov day though.

Lovely day, hope you're all enjoying it.
Love to the pregger ladies.

feeling much better, if a bit wobbly - thanks for all your kind wishes.

brinjal sorry to hear your scan was a bit inconclusive, are you sure about your dates? And as you say a HB has to be good news - hope the next 2 weeks fly by for you.

BB have a fab holiday - look after yourself and don't waste the HPT too early!

hippy sorry to hear about your new friends; I've noticed DS scratching his head and I've dived on him to have a peek in his mop, but haven't spotted anything yet. ROFL at your DH getting photos re-done, even I wouldn't have done that and I'm a control freak attention to detail monster!!! Vinegar's good on smeary glass btw?

gum, your posts make me sad as I can feel your pain at reconciling your urges and your DH wishes. Such a terribly difficult situation. Massive special squeeze for you all.

I hear squirting coming from the rear end of DS - must go and change yet another stinky nappy... back later. ...

Jolls get well soon lovely lady.

Brinjal really hope all will be OK and that things will progress as they should.

Mitzimaybe yes, take the advice and take the two weeks off work. I think it is best to get yourself through this by being nice to yourself and resting and coming to terms with it.

minmooch thank you for sharing, thinking of you.

Hairy lovely to see you again but sorry that you have not yet got what I so much hope for you. Hope the appointment goes well on Tuesday and points you in the right way.

Lol don't blame you being pissed off about hols situation!

Sorry gum don't know what to recommend. Trouble is that if you are telling your DH how sad you feel about the loss then in a way it is understandable that he is not so keen to try again. Men don't always feel the same way as we do! My DH is happy with just one and it has been a bit of struggle for him to agree to thousands of pounds worth of treatment and for us to keep going over all this time. I know if we had not kept going I would feel sad, very sad, but I hope that there is an end in sight for me. It's up to each individual, no one can really tell you what to do, it has to be our own decision about something so major. I guess I just wanted to say that although it is hard your DH sounds lovely and he seems to really care about how you are feeling so although he may not be saying or doing what you want him to I don't think it for any negative reasons - if you see what I mean!

Hippy ouch, nits, [scratching icon] hope they all go, along with the estate agents and your hubby gets the correct Van Gough view of the house! I hear windolene is good for smeary windows! Put some elbow grease into it!

lou hamster is the joy of my life! He is such a character I almost think he is tiny furry human!

Watching Supersize verses superskinny on on demand www.channel4.com/programmes/supersize-vs-superskinny-kids/4od/player/3173284

here It's all quite dramatic and sad, I feel very sorry for the kids and the mums, I can so easily see how parents can make these mistakes. We've had a few problems with DD's behaviour but we have now had a visit from someone connected to the school (although she is perfect at school and at friends, she saves her naughty behaviour for us at home!). These programmes are so good; I think they present the problems in a really human way. I have a friend who has struggled with anorexia, and it is just painful watching them eat! The poor guy in one episode is still struggling with anorexia but another episode has a young girl who has won an award for encouraging suffers as she has recovered from anorexia. One thing they did, which looked great, was a blind food test for encouraging kids to try new food. My DD is pretty fussy about food but loves doing the taste test so I think we will try that!

I'm feeling good, really coming to terms with the fact we may not have any more children but still looking forward to one more attempt (in May apparently). Work is going well and despite our ups and downs DD is enough for me so if she is the only one so be it! Feeling positive.

Love and hugs to all.

Did not order anything in the bistro because I went to a REAL restaurant in REAL life and ate spicy prawns, garlic bread, salmon pasta and chocolate cake! Yum!

Lol, you have really cheered me up.

Geez, I am glad I don't lose a bucketful - wouldn't you feel dreadful? I worry that my AF isn't heavy enough, but I did get pregnant, and carried for 8 weeks, so I don't think it is a lining issue (any thoughts appreciated). Also would I have low progesterone if my lining wasn't thick enough? I think my prog is fine to, judging by temperature rise and L.P length. Wish I'd stop 2nd guessing it all.

Jolls, you poor thing - that sounds awful. I hope you are on the mend again really soon.

Hippy, I feel for you.We've had our fair share of the little critters in this household! My DD2 suffers from anxiety, and when she has head lice it really escalates, so I'm always vigilantly checking her head for crawlers. Thankfully, she hasn't had them for a while.

It helps to know I'm not the only one with a reluctant partner in the ttc department. Unless he gives me an ultimatum and puts his foot down and says absolutely not, I will continue on my quest! It always seems like shit on the day before or day of AF. So to protect myself from those sorts of comments I should probably just shut-up. He was totally reluctant about Charlie, it took three years for him to come round (wish it hadn't taken so long, then I wouldn't be so bloody ancient, ttc now). But he did come round and even had surgery to reverse the vasectomy, so I know he's made huge sacrifices. That's why there's some guilt on my part too. I know some would think I should just be grateful with my lot, and though it sounds contradictory, what with me trying so hard for another, I am very grateful for what I have. But I have seen him with the baby he didn't really want, and he loves him deeply, enjoys his company and shares the joy(and I know he isn't faking it). So I reason that he will be the same with another baby.

It's selfish, I know, but it is also something that I feel so strongly about, it really is a matter of the heart.

OMG, sorry about the rant. I'll shut up now.

Lol, I'm thinking about trying reflexology too. Hippy, can you tell where I should massage the right bits on my feet? I will go to a real reflexologist, but in the meantime I could rub my own feet.

Also thinking positive thoughts and chanting...OMMMMMM

Hippy at least it's better than being scratchy 'down there'. Lou did that sort itself out?

Thanks, everyone, for cheering me up and making me laugh. Isaboo I'm going to have a glass of whatever it was you were having when you posted. It can't fail to do the trick You're all right. It is those * hormones. I thought that I could sail through an MC and as soon as my period came I crumbled. And dp is so knackered from work (we have the same job) that he doesn't want to know. He's avoiding me so that he doesn't have to talk about it.

Gum I'm so sorry about your dh's reaction. Just the last thing you want him to say. Keep focused on what you are trying to do, though. Sometimes those bloomin' men don't 'get it' until it's a done deal. My ex didn't want to try for either of the boys. I fought, sulked, screamed, sulked. He relented, reluctantly. Then he was absolutely overjoyed when they arrived. He still is delighted he had them. Go figure.

Brin fingers crossed for your next scan. You must be on tenterhooks. We're all wishing you and the baby well.

Curly I'm on CD 3 now. And counting. Beattie I'm heading towards ridiculously optimistic. I know just what you mean.

I've just watched Embarrasing Bodies - and ladies keeping diaries of their menstrual cycle in mooncups. EWwww. It made me realise how different everyone is. One poor girl was losing a bucketful every day. And another was so poorly with PMS she was having a hysterectomy. We're positively blooming in comparison! I can't afford the reflexologist but I've given my feet a massage and am hoping my ovaries got tweaked. Let's all think very positive baby thoughts this month. Ommmmm Ommmmmm

ppppps. for some reason I can't stop scratching my bloody head now (despite the comb saying I am all clear) how 'bout you???

jolls sorry you've all been ill. get a good rest and sooner or later (hopefully sooner) the nasty bug will pass through you all. Extra hugs for little jolls ((()))

diege Well I'll give it my best shot - what was I meant to shut again??? Looking forward to news of your scan soon.

DH doesn't like 2 of the photos from today so we have to get the man back to re-take. They are fine and they do make the house look lovely (i think) but DH is a bit of a stickler for detail [arrghhhh face] Still the ball is most definitely rolling.

Headlice have come to visit the Hippy House (DS2 sits near a girl who is ALWAYS scratching her head) so boys have gloop on their heads. DS2 has a LOT of hair (wide not long). My DS2 is 8 tomorrow. How did my baby get so big - note to self: have another one!!!

ps. yes I will wash the gloop off before any photos are taken.

pps. italian do you want this bloody paella, yes or no????

have also been on bathroom floor most of the day
we are all horribly sick :( :(
both ends :( :( :(

DS on mend, but me and DP feel horrid - off to bed.

so no order from the Bistro for me, except another bottle of lucozade for me to sip slowly...

back when less pooey...

ok, I hear you, I am also done with soup. You have a choice -

1. Well-toasted crumpets with jam
2. fish pie with gnocchi
3. ermm, that's about it
4. TO drink: fizzy water mixed with grapefruit juice.

I think we need to decide who is gonna do the cooking cos quite frankly I found that chicken soup a bit lacking last week

Hi all
Bloody work gets in the way of everything.I m fine.Finally managed to get my referral done via my gp back to my consultant.I ll be seeing her at 10 weeks to continue my shared care package.
Welcome Brinjal congrats X
Hi Hippy hope you got on ok with the estate agent?
Hi Curly hope you enjoyed your walk? Lovely sunny day.
Hi Italian Hope that hamster's still thriving?
Hi Diege u ok? My buddy XXX
Hi Gum sorry you re down X
Hi Shandy,Lol,Panashe,Tina and Mitzi
Hi BB how exciting nearly Vietnam time yeh!!!!!!!!!!!! My bruv is there at the moment and loves it.

Everyone ready for the Bistro? Just been chillin today lovely to be off work

curly that sounds really interesting. I'm pretty sure I would have a toxic bowel too! Maybe I'll start to explore that when I get back from hols. I didn't realise you had a 22 yo ds too! wow.

shandy that happens to me every month! I can now guarantee that if I poas my period will start! In fact, I have started poas to make it start.

gum so sorry you are in this situation. I am in a similar one, although my dh is happy to have another baby. but he wouldn't if it was down to him iysim. I know it's hard.

lol hope you feel better soon. i always start to feel ridiculously optimistic after a few days.

hippy fingers crossed for you! and hope the estate agent visit goes well. I saw a lovely place for us to rent in L, but can't go and see it because we're off on our hols (did I mention that?) and it probably won't be here when we get back. Oh well.

I think I'm about 7/8 days dpo too. Don't know exactly when I oved, but got a peak last Friday and Saturday. No signs here - I always get sore boobs and a bit of nausea at this time anyway so nothing new there. But I'm thinking of hiding a pregnancy test in my rucksack now - so much for waiting and seeing!

And wah-hay it's Friday! and a beautiful day! Lucky you jolls hope you make it to the beach. I've had to come into work today (boohoo) but came in a bit later and wandered round lovely B for a bit before I came.

still full of optimism, but waiting for the inevitable cramps/spotting/grumpiness to start...

Thank you for your kind words. I had my scan yesterday, vaginal, youch. And although there was a heartbeat they thought that it looked much smaller than the 7+3 that I am, going by my LMP. There were two of them taking it in turns. One said more it looked more like 5+ weeks. Afterwards I thought surely there wouldn't have been a heartbeat in that case? But I didn't think to ask. I've got to go back in two weeks.

I know hippy I'm rubbish. I would have got much more from the thread if I had joined in. Especially as I had a miscarriage (at 6 weeks) last year too around the same time several of you did. I don't know what stopped me. Possibly I'm a bit paranoid that people from rl will work out who I am (self-obsessed)?

lol I did try one lot of DHEA last year but nothing happened except it made my joints ache, I thought I'd turned into an old lady until I read that it was a side effect. Coupled with the facial hair growth(!) I got seriously scared off supplements. Always been too scared to try clomid for the same reason.

Warm wishes to you all.

shandy how shit is that!!! I have had that happen as well. Once I even peed directly on to the HPT (before I started collecting pots of wee ) and as I weed my period started onto the stick - it's like our bodies wait for the most heartbreaking point to break the news. So sorry for you.

I totally get what you say about your DD's. I was getting a bit like that after my second MC I was really obsessed about getting preggers again and had to take stock and look at my DS's and remember that they are already here and they need me now. I think the whole move and starting a 'hopefully' helathier life for all of us has helped me to focus more on the here and now and less on the maybe.

But it is CD1 for you Mrs and that is the shittiest day of the month so you are allowed to be miserable and grumpy.

OMG lol - I must have missed that story about your DP going away with the school. I would be very if I were you and I would be very vocal about just how I was. You have every right to be peeved, but remember he's not actually doing it to be horrid - just the way it's worked out. he will have to be sooooo nice to you when he gets back. Don't worry about the young woman, he loves you, he chose you and he'd much rather have a holiday with you if he could

gum Oh dear sweetie. I don't know what to say. your DH does seem pretty decided about it all and yet he is still actively having unprotected sex. Do you think he just doesn't want to see you go through any more pain or is it that he simply doesn't want any more babies?? i completely understand you feeling down about the MC, After mine I found that every period was like a harsh reminder that I was no longer pregnant. ((())) I prescribe a walk on your lovely beach with Charlie Bear. XXX

lou & diege hello lovely pregnant women - hang on in there.

jolls big wave to you, how is your crazy life these days???

italian not lng to go now - keep moving up that list

More cleaning today - windows (which i am crap at doing as they go all smeary). Then i am gonna sit and await the arrival of the estate agent. Nothing to report re: my body. I think I'm about 9/10 days post ov (but not sure as I didn't get the smiley face but did get the pains). This is usually the point where I start to think and then start spotting. Time will tell....

Hi all. The crappy af has come Cd30!! I had got my sample and test paper waiting and I looked back and saw a speck of blood on the toilet seat, sorry for tmi, but would you believe. And then I remembered someone else here said they'd had the same thing. Crap if crapness and the months roll on.

mitzi you take care of yourself I remember I was all over the place for s while after bothh mc's. It's disappointing enough at the end if the month to be late and get a bfn but it's miles worse to have the elation of a Bfp and all the hope and then stop. I'd got to the stage where we had told gp x 2 and were about to tell all.

Anyway better get to work and face the day to day stuff. I managed to get by so far decorating cakes with dd1 first thing i'n the morning. And then I look at my two lovely dd's and I feel guilty I'missing enjoying them with obsessing for another. What a state of affairs.

Nooooooo you are nice no make that very nice you have just had the equivalent of a hormone bomb go off and need some time to let your body calm down and you are entitled ... No make that obliged to feel low insecure and generally rubbish because you will make the rest of us look bad for being all of those things when we were in the same position ... It sucks all of it but I should hold of any big decisions till you feel more like normal and take from me Gorgeous younger women are generally shallow and a bit dull ........take care

Lol, sorry you are feeling low. I'm feeling a bit that way too. I can totally understand how you feel about him going on the school trip, especially if you don't get a proper holiday with him.

Curly, I hope you don't mind - I checked out your chart on FF, sorry to see you are also on CD1 (me too).

This last couple of days I have been thinking about my miscarriage. I thought I was doing okay, but when AF approaches it just seems like a kick in the gut!

When I told my DH how I was feeling he told me he was sad for me, but glad I am not pregnant. It really hurts to hear this. I knew he didn't really want to to ttc, but he's been "actively" involved iykwim. I had the idea of giving him an early Christmas card and saying,"thankyou for the early Christmas gift, I'm due December 3rd!" And I imagined he would actually be happy. I know now I'm fooling myself, and that makes me feel lousy.

I don't know where to go from here. The yearning for a babe is so real and I don't think I can brush it off, but I don't want to ttc on my own either.

It's hard enough being over 40 ttc without the pain and sadness of a loss and a DH who isn't on board.

Tina and Shandy, any news?

Hippy, it's great to hear you are ready to put your house on the market. It must feel good to be doing it and planning for your move. Does your DH have a job lined up on the IOW? It's really exciting and I suppose it may help keep your mind off ttc?

How are our pregnant ladies going? How far along are you now? Deige, when will you have a scan?

I wonder if Lia has had her baby? Can't wait to hear about it.

Hi all - thanks for your lovely messages. Brown gloop turned into monster red clots, flooding in middle of night etc. Then cramps with no blood. So, I'm pretty sure I'm flushed out. Spotty, grotty and grey, but alive and still smiling. Ok, I lied about the smiling.

Really really happy to hear your news Brinjal, you fellow 45 year-old, you. And naturally! You didn't even sniff aloe vera or pour clomid on your cornflakes? Very encouraging. Had actually been gloomily considering going on the pill. They're sitting in my drawer, waiting to opened. But Hippy's 'in it to win it' is probably what I should be thinking.

Curly bummer about the speeding. I've just got done for parking for too long at Thurrock Services. £50!!!!!!! I was only there to meet my mum (it's half way) and we must have spent that in Costa. Grrrr. What happened with you this month? I'm guessing no brown gunk but no BFP?

Feeling bit low (work's so manic - late nights EVERY night) and had a bit of a row with DP. You remember I whinged that he was taking a school trip to South Africa for two weeks with that gorgeous younger woman? Well, now we've worked out that all we can afford to do time/moneywise ourselves in the whole summer holidays is two days camping and possibly a mini-break with his parents. Bloody hell. No wonder I'm jealous. I keep trying to sound logical, but I'm just not. She's going on holiday this year with my dp and I'm not! Ok, whinge over. Lol goes back into cave and tries to find magic potion to turn her back into a nice person...

Hi all
I haven't posted for a while, but I've been temping all month and having thought it wasn't working for me initially there does seem to be a bit of a pattern. Not the marked temperature difference I expected from reading Toni's book Taking charge of your fertility but almost a degree.

Far more exciting than all that I'm on Cd 29 and still no af, in the last few months when I've been monitoring my af has started at cd26-28. A little early to speculate I know and different to my other months I've not got any pg symptoms.

Anyway I think I'm going to test tomorrow am as I'm due to go out tomorrow and I won't want to drink if there's any chance of a Bfp!

Love to all. There seems to have been a lot going on but I think I'll have to re-read to remember all your circumstances and names before I comment and possibly would put my foot in it and get you all mixed up.

isaboo - yes I think the yucky drink is part of the repertour (sp?). I laughed at your dog not drinking it but liking horse poo

I have told her that i don't think it's the right time for me with the move and all, I think she was a bit peeved cos as it's kinda pyramid selling she would have got money from my sales too. Ahh well she can stick to tickling my ovaries via my feet - can't she.

Am knackered from cleaning and still have some windows to do tomorrow. Estate agent due at 1.45. Note to self: please try to shower before he comes - you smell awful (hippy by name etc).

love to all
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