Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

BB seems like a plan.I m a "planner" my counsellor says that's my default being a planner but i m not 1 of these people who can aimlessly wander through life without plans.I have to have a "focus".Oh to be a magistrate how interesting.

Lol you are totally right as long as you re all ovulating,swi and having regular cycles there is still many chances.But i know it so doesn t feel like that at the time.

Gum i m very like you very controlling.My counsellor said we live with the not knowing and thats totally out of our control.I ve learnt that in the biggest way ever with Georgie but still doesn t mean i ve let "go" completely if thats you then so be it.....Maybe counselling would help????As another outlet for you to talk things over with????? Noot always ttc only i spoke about loads of stuff wih mine not just Georgie.My af is only 3-4 days also and never particularly heavy so i can t forsee a problem there.Sending you ((()))

Thanks Onedge XXXX

Hippy big old ((())) for you ...like Diege i feel strongly you will get your bfp also XXXXX

Hi Jolls ok???

Hi Italian,Curly,Nicole and everyone else XXXXX

We got our cat back from the vets last night.Basically hes in some degree of renal failure which is very common in cats [apparently a lot of the food is very high in protein and phospherous which contributes to this problem] but he s only 11,fit,active eating etc......so we managed to get his bp done testerday and a blood test.He wouldn t let them geet an urine sample so he's back in in a couple of weeks for urinalysis.He s ok but i felt so sorry for him poor bugger,he;s so loving and fussy.He s now on a special diet and hopefully we can give him a long and good quality of life.

Best outcome really as was worried he was diabetic which results in insulin injections twice daily which would have been horrible for him.

I also think Ant s starting to suffer now as he's really snappy and stressed.Told him to take time off work but ,unlike me who doesn t think twice about it,he won t .Said "he ll work through it" i said this is the worse thing you can do.I tried to do after my MMC approaching the due date and ended up having 3 months off work.[I sound like a right "doley" i do work honest!!!],Si, i ve booked him a reflexology session and are going to take him away for a spa break....[though i won t be able to do much hopefully!!!] I ve offered to sort him counselling but thats a no.With Scottie[cat] it all just came to a head with him loosing Georgie,starting a new job,Scottie then me being pg again.

Hope all are well XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XP Tina - you get an extra squish :)

Oh my goodness it's a regular soap opera in here at the moment. Some amazingly positive news and then some really tough times for others :(.

Just to say Diege totally with you on the not POAS again. The only time I've ever repeated a test was just once in my last pg. I figure once you see a positive "for today you are pregnant"... . But lou I totally respect why you do it your way. (BTW also laughed at your DH grumbling at the cat, very funny).

The rest of us are a bit less happy, non? Lots of self analysis and change going on. Big squeezes for everyone who needs one today. But if we can't take heart and hope from our new BFPs what's wrong with us!?

And don't forget Lia is close to delivering her newest bundle and she's blimmin' ancient

Gotta dash but warm squishes for anyone who is in need x

congratulations diege!!! so pleased for you, BFP's seem to be catching at the moment, hope I am next too lol

sorry to muchlove I know exactly how you feel, I've promised my hubby I'll calm down and chill out at least for the next 6 months and not take things any further in terms of getting referred for further investigations

I sort of agree with him but my clock is ticking very loudly now and I'm feeling really stressed out and upset with it all :-(

diege fantastic news! Congratulations.

Still waiting for af to turn up here - I have a few days of cramping now before it arrives, which is a pain as by then I just want it over with. Am taking clomid from day 2.

Still obsessing about house move etc. It's too much for me to think about actually. Especially the schools situation and the stress on the children. But dh has said he wants to move jobs as he hates his so I just can't see how we can both commute. schools are a shocker though. I need to earn another £100k so that I can afford school fees (not much chance of that in my sector!).

muchlove sorry to see you go - please come back. I totally understand how you feel. and lol too - I need to come up with something in my life (apart from moving house!). I need to move on. So options are:
singing (I love to sing, but am crap and would like to learn),
dancing (ditto),
yoga (used to be good at it, but now old fogey), running (my knees aren't good, but it makes me thin)
maybe a course? I am interested in psychology. or could do something connected with my career - an MBA maybe.
Would like to be a magistrate too.

Travelling love that. But we are thinking we need a lean few years to actually get a pension/save up for our old age.

Sorry for stream of consciousness post - have come into work early (bloody ds2 waking up so early) and my boss has seen me which was part of the plan.

Gum Hippy Much we are all ovulating, all having periods, all producing progesterone, all having ridiculous amounts of sex - we should be really proud of ourselves. We will always know that we gave it our best shot - whatever we decide to do.

I must admit, seeing myself as the oldest on the list gave me a bit of a reality check. I'm pretty sure I swi without having to use OPKs as I go by CM, mood swings and water retention. So - no testing or thermometers for me, thank god. I still get pregnant - I just produce duff'ns, which isn't surprising. I'm not going to 'try' but I'm not going to have another Mirena either.

I'm trying to come up with a Plan B. God, this is beginning to sound like an advert for evening classes. I'll be taking up pottery next. I love my job, but I need to fall in love with my 'life' again - and myself, to be honest.

Diege and Lou I am going to cyber-stalk you and have a virtual pregnancy with you. You can have the heartburn and the vericose veins and I'll have the great scan results and the epidural

Lou and Deige, such good news. Very excited for both of you!

Hippy and Muchlove, sorry to hear you are feeling down.I can completely relate.Lol, I can understand your feelings too.

I'm not doing so well. Starting to think I must be stupid to continue persuing this dream. But don't know how to let it go.

All things ttc have been such a huge part of my life for the last 4 years or so - it was 3 years of heartache before my DH got the vasectomy reversal, 7 months of ttc before Charlie's bfp, then when he was about 10 months old I started wanting to ttc again, but had to wait for the return of AF.Then it was 6 months ttc before the last pregnancy which ended at 10 weeks. Meanwhile I've turned 44 and feel like my world is spinning out of control.I feel stuck in this void of all things ttc!

But when I think about letting it go I just feel so devestated...F*&k, I think I need a psychotherapist....but really don't want to go there.

I worry because my period isn't very heavy, but it goes for about 4 days, so it's probably fine. I think I'm just trying to find reasons for it not happening.It's so silly when I have got proven fertility over the years, it's just that things are slowing down as I get older.

I realise I need to "let go" and stop being so controlling. I couldn't find my thermometer this a.m. It's usually under my pillow, and I wondered if maybe it's a bit of a message.Perhaps it is time to just let things go and see what happens.

Sorry about my moany post.

I'm really excited about the bfp's.It is wonderful news.

Hippy were you able to sort things out with your friend? You do sound down . I totally understand where you are coming from, it's all so bloody draining, but I genuinely feel that you will get there besser xx
Lol Jolls about hairwash cup. That poor cup gets peed in day in day out, only gets a break during af. They play with it in the bath too which is disgraceful I know muchoove I agree that is a very frustrating scenario . Would it be worth having one final heart to heart with dh?
Lol hope we've cleared up the acronyms with you
Lou, no more testing for me! Line came up quick, so I just know I would start comparing not only the shade/depth/general 'hue' but also the time is would take to come up. THere's nothing in the world I can do now anyway but wait and see!
Thanks again for everyone's kind words, they mean a lot xx

LOU I'm thrilled for you, well done

Arh...Much sorry about that.Keep in touch!!!! XXX

Hippy its horrible the impending af...I know when its coming i 'd rather it just be here already!!!!
I would have had my smear pre-ovulation but i 'd got the smiley face the day before mine so didn t want to risk it though i don t know of any contraindications.

LOL sperm meets egg plan ; start bd every 2 days from cd 8 then start opk testing cd 10 when you get a + opk swi that night and the next 2 nights.1 night off then swi 1 more night.4 out of the 6 times i ve get pg i ve done this so i can only sing its praises!!!!!

Diege you testing again tomorrow????

HIPPY I am right there behind you ...... am gonna give up I think coz it's just about finished me off now in all areas ....just too much heartache for me.... Im sick of tests and temps and trying to time it just right and then BFNs .....Im not enjoying my life and I think I need to find another quest (tho god knows what as I have ate - slept and drank TTC for 2 and half years now) I also don't feel like my DH has totally supported me of late and he's not as dedicated as I am and it's not much fun feeling like 'Im alone' whilst stuck in my frustrated self..... so here I am just passed OV and he didnt make the grade (too strung out from a busy day at work) whilst a Monitered cycle told me I had just dropped a lovely ripe egg (so bollox to it) how totally frustrating is that !!!!!

I'm not feeling MUCHLOVE at the mo infact Im wiped out sooo prob won't be about much..... only to check on all the BFPers progress reports of course but otherwise I will keeping a low profile xx

lol shag with intent. and sperm meets egg plan (google it and see if you can keep up)

Thanks for the support lol - when i had a coil in for 6 years i never had periods or all the pain that goes with them - ah well not long until i either get preg or give up!

jolls get back to him quick - there could be a train crash!

wooooooohooooooo
read this on my phone whilst midst bedtime routine for DS and (terrible mummy alert) have said "ten minutes to play with your trains", whilst I come on here to yipdoodledandy for Diege... Fab news, have all crossed that it's sticky and successful all the way.
Will pop back later for more !

and SMEP? WTF?

Diege ohmygod ohmygod - I am so pleased!!! Just so delighted for you. God, you guys give me hope. Ok, so I'm the oldest person on the list, but an old girl can dream.

Lou I quite understand the testing. Just don't go bankrupt. You're going to need the cash for the baby!

Beattie I'm stunned. Once you get a plan in your head, there's clearly no stopping you. It might be scary but you sound a lot more positive, so it's got to be a good thing, hasn't it?

Hippy big hug. I know how you feel. I've just stopped bleeding from the CP and am wondering if I should try again. It's so bloody heartbreaking. I'm desperate to stop 'wanting' to be pregnant. Not sure if isn't my time to start accepting it's all over - and I'm just fighting middle-age/menopause. I've got 3 lovely kids - and a cute stepds. That should be enough for us both. We wanted one together - but we should probably be happy that we've got each other.

Right - you're going to have to tell me, one of you. What the HELL is a swi? Can anyone do it? Is it legal?

diege way to go matey. So glad lou isn't on this journey alone. Will keep my fingers crossed that both of you will have an easy 8 months or so.

Personally I can't wait until I give up this whole TTC thing - and get another mirena coil put in my nunu. I currently have cramps, feel sick, have endo pain and feel like I could burst into tears at any point. I can literally feel the progesterone draining from my body. I had a bit of a mis-understanding with a friend in RL last night and today and I feel very emotional and down. BUT - I know it is just a fucking chemical reaction and is all caused by bleedin' hormones - so I know I'll feel better soon.

lou you said you cancelled the smear cos you'd ovulated - i think I'm gonna book one for early next week so I have finished bleeding but wont have actually ovulated - will that be ok nursey??

Just popped on briefly and couldn't go without saying a big congratulations to Diege !!!!

Is this thread now officially on a roll?!

Tell me about it!!! My smear was due last August but obviously i was preggers.Meant to get it done after Georgie but obviously that went tits up then I booked for 14 th Feb [funnily enough] then i ovulated the day before so cancelled!!! I ve never left it this long but not worried as they've all been fine in the past.
It sounds ok if the last 3 have been fine.How many more annual smears were you suppose to have before they extend them? Guess all you can do is wait and hopefully have in November XXX

Thanks Lou, I'm grinning too! I think, for me, the anxiety about when to test/which test to do just did me in (oh and plus you lot nagging me ) and I crumbled. I have also woken up at 4am for the last 4 mornings which is usually a give away for me. I'm so pleased I can stop temoing now though - last night I dreamt I was answering the phone and it was actually the thermometer bleeping away...
I am a tad bit worried about having to delay my smear (I was due one in March) as I have yearly ones due to past dodgy cells. Having said that the last 3 smears (3 year's worth) have been clear so hopefully I'm worrying about nothing.

OMG woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Diege Knew it,knew it ,knew it!!!!!!!!!!!

Fab...i m sat here with a whopping great smile on my face.,..

I m so happy for you.XXXXXX

Hi Much X

Today Diege you are indeed upduffed!!!!

Thanks Curly X

Hippy cheers mate XXXX Its nice to have a personal bodyguard.Don t worry it may still be too early X

Thanks muchlove . Rang up dh and he seemed a little underwhelmed but there you go, that's dh So my formula for success is swi the day before ovulation and the day after, nothing on the actual ov day . Hardly SME

Hey All

LOU Oh thankgod all is ok for you great news xx

DIEGE Wowzer fantastic little surprise there !!!! Fingers and toes crossed...... for today youre PREGNANT !!!!!!

Be back soon x

Helloo-ooo...anyone out there? Just back from hossie with friend and have been torturing myself stupid about testing. Lurked in a few pound shops looking for cheap ultra-sensitive tests, ditto Boots and Superdrug, then just though f*ck it, I'll do one of the free ones I got with ov kit (as I realsied 25iu is actually quite sensitive)I'm also sick of temping and would like any excuse to stop.
So (Diege finally gets to the point) held my wee for 4 hrs (thought of Hippy advice), peed in the girls hairwash cup and what do you know a BFP . LIne started forming straight away and while not anywhere near as dark as control line, is strong and easy to see. 13dpo today. So, very excited (relieved I can dump the thermometer for now) but mindful of early mc last time and will be waiting obsessively for sickness). As Lou says though, 'for today I am pregnant Bit worried becaise of my (to date) short LP, but then I started taking B6 this month so you never know that may have down the trick?

Blimey I wish that lou would shut up about being preggers Seriously my love, we are so pleased for you. Of course we all want BFP's but no-one can deny that you are definitely owed a decent pregnancy and a take home baby. If anyone says they don't want to hear about it then they are mad and you must send them to me for a good kickin'

BB Hang on - you're moving at Easter???? You can't bloody move before me - I've been banging on about it for donkey's years and you just jump right in there - have you no etiquette lady???

lia can not believe how imminent the birth is. Good luck - at least you've been to a few births already - just the 20-30 is it??

diege whoo hoo where the flippin' 'eck are you?? Testing??

I did a test this morning BFN - no surprise as spotting has increased and endo pain has joined the party but as my boobs were still a bit tingly I thought I'd use the asda test. My boobs are always the last to know when it's not worked - bless their ignorance.

Love to all. Where is muchlove?

ps. Jolls - the list is a great idea - I love it. Especially as I have a decrepid old brain.