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Gosh, I think I might ask for only perfectly planned birth stories where the baba popped out quietly after a little sneeze

Dee you've clearly been through so much and yet sound very pragmatic and wise about it all. I love the viroids!

I have no idea what I would want to do birth-wise and strongly suspect I would happily take any drugs offered if I was in pain. I also know that gas & air does not agree with me so that could be fun!

In terms of sleeping through, my niece on my husband's side is 2 and still wakes most nights whilst my nephew (my sister's son) has slept through since 6 weeks I'm hoping it's a genetic thing and I'll get a perfect sleeper as I sleep like a log at the moment and am a bit of a zombie without my 8 hours at least

I appear to have gone into emoticon overload so will bugger off to bed now. Night night viroids.

:( so sorry to hear about DS1 dee.

Also sorry to hear about all of the difficult births. My birth plan was fairly loose - basically said that I didn't want an epidural, an episiotomy or a c-section... I ended up with the epidural (after 24 hours I was still only 2 cm and with contactions on top of each other I no longer cared what it took!) and after 2 hours of pushing they didn't give me a choice of the episiotomy. But I didn't have the c-section so 2 out of 3 ain't bad!

DD will be 1 in just over a week and only started consistently sleeping through at about 10ish months. She'd have a night here and there but it wasn't the norm until then. I think that they just do it when they're ready... My sisters babies have both been natural sleepers from day dot which used to make me (and secretly a little bit !).

I choose to only think of the good bits when I think of the next one!

LOL Josie - I guess they might understand! Let's just hope they don't hear the much earlier stage of your baby's creation .

Still think HB sounds messy though. What if you get up to walk around and gush everywhere? I think I'd spend more time worrying about my beautiful sheets! Also what sorts of rules did the hospital have crow? [genuinely interested emoticon].

Crow that sounds exactly like my idea of a hb. Only thing puttin me off is that if I make a lot of noise the neighbours might hear

Those who worried about any mess with HB - I just.covered HD bed with a plastic sheet, the midwife brought over a birthing pack containing the sheets etc a couple of before my due date. After the bath, they ran me a bath and cleaned up the sheeting while I was in the bath. They then made me a cuppa and gave me a couple of paracetamol and then left. It was lovely to be sitting in my own bed and not have to abide by any hospital rules and no intrusions. :)

Sleep??? What's that then? My DS3 was one a fortnight ago and he still doesn't go all the way through the night. Having said that, last night was the best night we've had in months - he finally gave in at 10.30pm and slept til 5am. Was fab. He's usually every three hours or so, which is fun!! Wouldn't change it though.

Oh Josie I'll be aiming for long before 1!!!So many of my close friends and family have become parents recently that I'm now a bit of an armchair expert. Most did the first all-nighter around 16 weeks. My nephew was much younger, maybe 10 weeks? Luckily none of my friends have had to wait until anything like a year, so I'll be asking them all what they did!

I wonder if some of my friends have cottoned on to the fact we are trying? A couple of them used to regularly get their ears bent by me, especially on a night out, about how I was broody but OH wasn't ready. I haven't talked about it for months, for fear of giving the game away, but I suspect that in itself is telling! I'm actually amazed though, as in all this time the only person I have actually told is my sister :)

I'm sick of people saying 'you've got it all to come' when they're talking about their kids. How do they know we've not just been told we can't have kids! How would they react if I burst into tears and said I'd never experience that (might try it one day and see the reaction ) DH's mam is the worst. She said the only reason we gave the neices and nephews money for xmas was so that they would give us money when we had kids . She was lucky I didn't knock her block off I told my mam about someone's 1yr old sleeping through the night and said surely they started before then, she couldn't stop laughing at the look of horror on my face when she said 1yr old was normal! I neeeeeed my sleep!

Josie I hear you on the . My farrier was just here, his GF had a boy 4 1/2 weeks ago. His nearly first question, after I asked after the baby was "when are you having kids then". . Getting a bit sick of lying to people and pretending that it's never on the cards. Problem is, because I'm so old not in my 20s any more, people now assume I genuinely mean it. They will probably all die of shock if I ever get a BFP .

(Also, he said that his baby was sleeping all through the night already. He is a bit prone to making things up exagerating a little. This surely can't be true, can it?

X-post. Dee I'm so sorry for what you went through

I think I'd have to come to terms with the fact that it might not go to plan, but as you say, in the heat of the moment I'm sure I'll just want whatever's best

A 'client' just bought their 8 month old baby in and she was laughing and waving and clapping. And my new colleague keeps talking about how her 6 month old daughter woke her up in the night laughing

Dee - OMG words fail me. Firstly I'm so very sorry about your son. But and at the MW. How long ago was it? I think I'd still be tempted to make a complaint. What a fucking witch .

I wish you a BFP very soon, followed 9 months later by a lovely smooth, just-as-you-planned-it delivery :)

Thank you

Hindsight's a bloody wonderful thing, and i can see now it was hormones, and stress and everything piled on top that made me agree to induction. DS3 was no where ready, but i felt i had no choice.

Things will be different this time round though!

oh dee I'm so sorry about ds1, and about the midwife

Oh i think this one was just a right ould cow. I had GD and was planning just to wait and see rather than be induced, and she told me that if i went past 39 weeks then it'd be likely baby would be stillborn. Now, enough to terrify anyone, but i lost DS1 shortly afer birth, and when i explained this to her and told her that i was upset with what she'd said, she told me that this was the risk i took if i will get pregnant!

I wish now i'd put in a formal complaint, tbh.

tis OK nickel, I was lucky on many counts (so many of my friends had emcs which made my labour look like a walk in the park, albeit a long one) and I don't really regret anything about it. Story had a jolly happy ending

though I will be hanging on for my MLU waterbirth next time!

yikes, dee, reckon if anyone has earned a lovely waterbirth then it's you!

I've given lots of thought to the type of birth i'd like this time - i say this time, and i'm not even upduffed.

My first birth was an EMCS at 28wks, which was horrendous. Second was a vbac with just gas and air and ended with a 3rd degree tear. Last one i should have been in a MLU - fought tooth and bloody nail for it - but then bastard fuckign MW scared the bejaysus out of me and i ended up being induced and having an epidural.

I know my next birth will be my last - sending him for the snip - and i'd really like a waterbirth. I'll probably have to fight tooth and nail for it again as they'll want me to be monitored ect, but i feel no need for it.

I'm not convinced of a HB tbh - again, all that mess! Though the thought of climbing into my own bed afterwards for newborn snuggles is appealing...

lol at the idea of nickel jumping in and out of a birthing pool comlaining about the temperature!

I was bleeding nickel and they wanted to monitor dd, and eventually I had to go on a hormone drip anyway to make it happen a bit quicker. So my dreamy MLU waterbirth turned out to be a hospitally tube-ridden one. And honestly, it didn't matter at all at the time: labour makes you very tough (just as well really, ho ho) and GETTING IT OUT is so important that other things (mess, embarrassment, if your hair is straight, whatever) matter rather less.