The resurrection of the 6th form common room for those inbetweeners who are TTC/PG after mc and are too long in the tooth to fit anywhere else

Hello everyone, sorry I have not been on much, I'm glad to say its because I have not much to report. All safe and boring and still feeling pregnant. I am going to get another blood test done tomorrow, just to reassure me that HCG is still rising nicely. I skipped my counselling session this week because I realised spending 15 quid on a blood test will do a whole lot more for my anxiety levels than spending 20 quid on the session. Not sure if I will do the same next week or go back to counselling, it has been amazingly helpful. I played with my SIL's 3 month old yesterday. Its hard to look at him without adding 2 months to his age and thinking about how mine would have been, but its much easier to be around him now that I have some hope of having another baby.

Ali sorry your scan wasnt as reassuring as you would have liked. What a shame that doctors are insisting on the LMP dates. I have already decided to lie to mine about the dates precisely to avoid that kind of thing, and (if I get that far) all the pressure to induce at the end too. With DS I got conned into accepting their dates and learned the hard way!

ladyB I am glad you have found inspiration, I do hope you will be able to learn something from this lady that will be useful to you. Have you had any luck setting up contact?

BB I am fine, thanks for asking, I guess because there has been no bleeding I have scaled down to just "yellow alert" instead of the high alert, constant panic of the first few days. Sorry you have had things playing on your mind. Feel free to share it with us if it helps xxx

mouse how are you doing? Getting lots of TLC at home I hope?

So how is the egg catching going this month for everyone else? Cant wait for all of you to join me, its very lonely being way down the bottom of the list on the other huge great thread.

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Thanks so much, brokenbarrenbrook for your lovely words and also great advice to bee. I am so sorry you've been through so much... it's awful. I've had 2 miscarriages and don't have any children, and I know how hard that is, so my heart really does go out to you. The statistics you found were encouraging, and I am glad that they have provided renewed hope. Remember... there is always hope, and everything is crossed for you. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

WAVES TO ALL

Extra big hugs to mouse Hope you are resting. Xxxxxxx

Morning all, sorry I've not been about much, things playing on my mind a bit so have been trying to stay away from here to stop me going completely potty.

mouse sorry to hear that you've had to go back in for another op, hope you're feeling a little less sore today. It's great news it's not molar and that the Dr is positive about future pregnancies. Be kind to yourself for now and give yourself recovery time x

Ali glad to hear you're positive about scan, and good idea about waiting the two weeks, if all is measuring as it should be to you then I'd stick with that, it sounds as though you are completely right and there's no reason why the bean shouldn't be a sticky. Fingers crossed for you x

bee I read yesterday after my session with Dr Google an article about a lady who'd had 18 mc before her first child, she eventually received treatment with Dr Shehata at Epsom and St Helier NHS, the stats are (almost) reassuring. 1 in 100 will have 3 consecutive mc, I in 600 will have 4 (which is where I'm at so far with no dc) and 1 in 15000 will have 5. What I took some hope from is that 4, however crap, looking at it in black and white, isn't that uncommon however 5 is. I'm giving things one last shot with St Marys and if that doesn't work out I'm going to see Dr Shehata. There's no reason why you won't have another dc, and you mustn't say that youre not brave or strong because you are, you've gone through heartbreak 4 times now and it's horrible, don't play down how strong you've had to be to pick yourself up after each fall. The article is here x

mummya how are you doing?

Waves to izzy, battery, jolls, moo and everyone else I know ive missed x

mouse good to hear from you and I'm pleased they did the op for you and you got good reassurance.

I don't think I'm strong or brave, to be honest, maybe stubborn? not willing to accept that maybe I can't have what I want (just yet). I don't know, it helps I think that I had DS after just 1 mc, so didn't have to battle the doubt and go through the testing before having ANY child. That's why I'm in awe of this woman - and any woman - who had 5 before she was successful. And knew that she might have similar pain before getting her second. I don't know the details, whether she was diagnosed with any risk factors or just kept on going til she was lucky. That's why I'm hoping to get in touch. If she MC while on treatment I'd very much like to talk that through with her because that's something I'm really struggling with.

mouse - glad that you are home and all is done. Get lots of rest and just let yourself be looked after. xxx

Mouse so glad they got you in today and also that they gave reassurance, very much needed at a time of worry. Hope you are getting lots of TLC at home. Sleep well and plenty of R&R tomorrow x

Hi ladies, I'm home. The op was done this morning. The doc was v reassuring about a subsequent conception so fingers crossed.

I'm still a bit light headed and sore so I'll try and update properly tomorrow. Love to all xx

ladybee you are a true inspiration. I think you're so strong and brave xxxx

ladybee I think it's great that you want to get in touch with your pg friend, you are obviously being much stronger than you give yourself credit for. I know what you mean about snapping at your dc, I have been having periods of doing the same with mine. I guess it's pretty normal and I am sure your ds will forget about being sniped at in no time, they are pretty resilient.

mouse was just checking in and hoping that all going better today.

Have been having a lovely day at home with DS & DH today, although my patience is really really short at the moment, poor DS gets to have a mummy who gets snippy with only a very small amount of messing about.
He is also coming down with a cold so not in the greatest of moods himself, but hopefully that means a decent long nap this afternoon - he's tucked up on the couch at the moment having asked to nap downstairs. I don't mind him doing this, gives me a chance to curl up with a book and put some quiet music on.

I just found out that a friend of a friend is pg, and am pretty amazed - I really hope she'll put me in touch with her, she had 5 mcs before carrying her son to term and it sounds like she's had a couple more since before reaching 14wks with this one. I find that story really inspiring, was starting to wonder whether I should be continuing but knowing this woman, and her determination, does give me a bit of a kick to get on with it. I know there are no guarantees in this business but knowing it CAN work out even for those of us with known 'issues' is exactly what I needed to hear about.

Thinking of you today mouse hope everyone at the hospital is treating you well xxx

Oh mouse that's rubbish but as the others have said at least you are going to get someone good to do it. I hope that today goes smoothly and that you are being looked after.

Hapy Saturday, Gorgeous Ladies! waves to all with extra big love for bee, mouse and battery I am so sorry that you have had such awful times... life really is so cruel. Thinking of you today, mouse and hoping all goes well...

Well, I had my early 'reassurance' scan on Thursday, but it turned out it wasn't very reassuring at all, but all hope is not lost. Basically, the NHS seem to only work on dates based on periods and assume that all women ovulate on Day 14. On that basis, at the time of my scan I would have been 6+4. However, as I had been charting and monitoring I know that I have a slightly longer cycle and didn't ovulate until day 19/20, so am 5/6 days behind what they thought based solely on my LMP. So, I had the early scan and ovaries look great and gestational sac found, but as yet no foetal pole or heartbeat visible. Sac measured 5+5, which would be about right. The consultant was not worried at all and said it was simply too early so he'll scan me again. He was happy to do it next week, but I've moved appointment to 2 weeks as I think we should hopefully see more then. It would be disheartening to go again next week and still not see anything, so I'm going to sit it out. I am trying not to get too attached to the idea of being pregnant, just incase it all goes wrong again. We are obviously thrilled but it's such an anxious time...

I am also following my GP's advice and am literally doing nothing except working and resting for the next 6 weeks. I have totally cleared my diary. It's weird as I'm quite social, but it's worth it to give my little bean the best possible chance of survival. But I guess what will be will be........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd

Oh Mouse What shitty news. Well, you will already be at hospital by now but I hope you get your op today and can start the recovery process. Will be thinking of you today.

Thank you all so much ladies. My positivity is taking a bit of a nose dive at the minute but I'll be ok. I'll do my best to let you know how it all goes tomorrow.

Better go to bed really - got to be at the hospital for 7am

Night all xxx

Poor mouse - you are having a tough old time :( Good in a way that they are bringing in the best for you, but crap that they didn't decide that earlier today.
Like the others say- do try and get some sleep and hopefully by this time tomorrow night it will all be over xx

Good lord mouse that's horrendous
So sorry that you are going through this, it's awful that this is not going smoothly - it feels like everything is just being piled up on you at the moment. I'm sure you're doing really well at keeping it together to cope with it all but do give yourself space afterwards to fall to pieces - noone should have to cope with that.

mouse I totally understand that you just want it to be all over, but I think it sounds good that they are taking their time to make sure that the procedure is done right. Ultimately getting it right now will mean a quicker recovery in the long run. 10 hours in the hospital is just awful, you poor thing! Hang in there, nothing this bad can last forever, one way or another you will get a clear uterus and be able to recover properly. Much love xxx

Big (((hugs))) Mouse I'm sorry you're being messed around. I guess it's good that a senior person is going to do it, but the waiting must be awful and I can understand your fear of being left to medical management and the distress of bleeding/clots . Poor you. If they do suggest anything like that, and you just want the erpc, please try to stand your ground, cry (more) if you have to, just do what you need to get it sorted and get you through it. Hope you get some sleep tonight chica xxx

Thanks love xx

mouse so sorry you are having a really shit time of it hon... probably a stupid thing to say but try and get some sleep and fx they get you in tomorrow (((hugs))) xx

Hi ladies tis me the voice of doom again! I'm only on night release because after 10 hours in hospital today they decided someone more senior should do it tomorrow. Aaaggh!

So, I was nil by mouth from 9pm last night until 5pm so they put a drip in. I had the pessaries to prepare my cervix at 7.30 this morning so I started bleeding at about 10am and am now passing clots.

I'm really worried the won't even do the procedure tomorrow and will opt to scan and manage medically. I can't bear the thought of going back and forwards for god knows how long...

Dooooom!!!!

Mouse hope today has gone well (((hugs)))

izzy yrmotb how is SMEP going this cycle?

waves to all have a good weekend

mouse sorry about your news, hope things went ok for you

Hope things went ok today mouse xx